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POLL #4: B12 or PAC

#4: B12 or PAC

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Red_Alert

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Let's have a look at Oklahoma's opponent Scoring Defenses...

Houston:....... 118th
South Dakota:.FCS
UCLA:........... 112th
Texas Tech:.... 125th
Kansas:......... 122nd
Texas:........... 108th
West Virginia:..75th
Kansas St:.......45th (L) by 7
Iowa St...........43rd Won by 1 point
Baylor.............39th Won by 3 points
TCU:...............28th Won by 4 points
Okie Jr:.......... 86th

The average Scoring Defenses of Oklahoma's first 6 opponents (omitting FCS South Dakota) is 110th.

When Oklahoma plays a Top 50 Scoring Defense they struggle mightily.
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Not sure the PAC will make it. Utah definitely has a shot, but they have to hope the committee gives them some extra points. The way I see it....

Baylor beats Oklahoma... avenges only loss of the season, beats a top 10 team. = enough to jump Utah

Oklahoma beats Baylor... beats the same top 10 team twice in one year, thats tough. = enough to jump Utah


Utah beats Oregon... beats a top 15 team with 2 losses and could very well be the ONLY team that would finish ranked from their schedule. Might be enough to keep the higher position, but who knows.

Oregon beats Utah... no PAC team makes it.



All in all, I think the PAC is going to get left out, however I would like to see what Utah could do. If I remember correctly (someone would have to look it up), I think I took Utah to make the playoff this year, but not sure of that now.
 

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I think Utah should and would go over Baylor. Baylor should not be allowed to participate period.
 

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But then again, there is another option....

UGA beats LSU and the committee drops LSU to 4th and move UGA to 3rd.

Keeping what we already have for the playoff.
 

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13 of y'all are just trolling.....I can tell. :nod:
 

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Here...these are based on the Massey's incomplete rankings to date

Utah
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Wins over:
#51 @BYU (7-5) 30-12 MOV=18
#112 NIU (5-7) 35-17 MOV=18
#NR Idaho St (3-9) 31-0 MOV=31
#46 Wash St (6-6) 38-13 MOV=25
#65 @Ore St (5-7) 52-7 MOV=45
#42 Ari St (7-5) 21-3 MOV=18
#50 Cal (7-5) 35-0 MOV=35
#32 @Wash (7-5) 33-28 MOV=5
#75 UCLA (4-8) 49-3 MOV=46
#90 @Ariz (4-8) 35-7 MOV=28
#70 Colo (5-7) 45-15 MOV=30
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avg rank:655/11=59.545 | avg mov:299/11=27.18

Losses:
#22 @USC (8-4) 30-23


OU
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Wins over:
#85 Hous (4-8) 49-31 MOV=18
#NR SDak (5-7) 70-14 MOV=56
#75 @UCLA (4-8) 48-14 MOV=34
#78 TxTech (4-8) 55-16 MOV=39
#100 @Kansas (3-9) 45-20 MOV=25
#27 *Texas (7-5) 34-27 MOV=7 *Neutral Site
#69 West Va (5-7) 52-14 MOV=38
#30 Iowa St (7-5) 42-41 MOV=1
#15 @Baylor (11-1) 34-31 MOV=3
#49 TCU (5-7) 28-24 MOV=4
#25 OSU (8-4) 34-16 MOV=18
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avg rank:587/11=53.363 | avg mov:243/11=22.09

Losses:
#34 @KSU (8-4) 48-41
 

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But then again, there is another option....

UGA beats LSU and the committee drops LSU to 4th and move UGA to 3rd.

Keeping what we already have for the playoff.

And that is exactly what would happen. I really think the top 3 can all lose this week and still get in.
 

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But then again, there is another option....

UGA beats LSU and the committee drops LSU to 4th and move UGA to 3rd.

Keeping what we already have for the playoff.
There’s another Poll for this scenario.
 

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It's a mathematical fact that conferences that actually play their own conference members lose more games. Enjoy your 12 year rotation.

Does your 9 game schedule make you go 1-19 vs ranked teams OOC too, or is that just because you suck.
 

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Does your 9 game schedule make you go 1-19 vs ranked teams OOC too, or is that just because you suck.

I'd be interested to know the 20 matchups and the time span. Anyway, I get it. A Pac 12 teams needs to win a game against a good SEC team in order for the Pac 12 to start repairing their reputation. And then they need to win some more.

Oregon really screwed the Pac 12 by blowing the game against Auburn. A win there would've changed how everyone views Oregon's and Utah's CFP credentials this season. There is no great USC or Washington team of the past that everyone respects.
 

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Most interesting scenario to me is LSU wins. Clemson wins, Oregon wins, Baylor wins, Wisconsin wins

I think LSU, Clemson and OSU are in but it wouldnt shock me if a 2 loss Wisconsin jumped a 1 loss Baylor in that situation
 

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I think Utah should and would go over Baylor. Baylor should not be allowed to participate period.
Baylor's history (even though Rhule etal didn't have anything to do with it) will be in the back of all 13 CFP members. No way they can earase it.
 

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Baylors not going , even with a win, unless Utah loses. Even then theyre not 100% in ( imo ) unless LSU, Clemson and OSU all win too
 

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Which CFP loss would be more entertaining:

OU or Utah
 

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Poll is set up in a tough way to vote. The big thing that separates these 3 teams is their OOC. Both Utah and Baylors OOC were a complete cop out. If Oklahoma wins they should be in regardless. If Baylor and Utah win you got a tough decision on your hands. Personally I think Utah is a litter better team, but winning the Big 12 is a tougher task than winning the PAC this year.
 

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Poll is set up in a tough way to vote. The big thing that separates these 3 teams is their OOC. Both Utah and Baylors OOC were a complete cop out. If Oklahoma wins they should be in regardless. If Baylor and Utah win you got a tough decision on your hands. Personally I think Utah is a litter better team, but winning the Big 12 is a tougher task than winning the PAC this year.
Even with a Baylor win over OU???
 
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