So, who wins the coming Andy Dalton sweepstakes?

[ATL96Steeler]

I don't think Elway is going to kick the tires on another recently casted off vet.

And isn't there a chance Tennessee just sticks with Tannehill? Maybe along with drafting a rookie to groom behind him for a year?

TN...agreed...they won't be bad enough to land one of the big fish from the draft so Tannehill would make the most sense and will likely cost much less than picking up Dalton's last yr.

If I were the Bears, I would lay low on the Dalton situation...because CIN doesn't have any dead money to incur, they might just release him to dump the salary and CHI gets him without giving up any picks.

 

[wood20ks]

I would honestly take him next year. A career middling QB is so much better than this dip shit we trot out there every week. If we post 18 PPG we would be 7-3. Disgusting.

You know.......I was just thinking that when I started reading this thread....

I do believe he can be counted on more than Trubisky and wouldnt be all that expensive...

But yet,I believe hes just another Cutlet......Gonna throw thse untimely interceptions thats gonna leave us headscratching,but atleast he can most likely grasp the offense more than what we have now....

 

[wood20ks]

Yeah but the Bears don’t have any draft picks left since they gave them away to get Mitchy!

I do believe we have two 2nd rounders and no way in hell is AD worth a first......

 

[richig07]

You know.......I was just thinking that when I started reading this thread....

I do believe he can be counted on more than Trubisky and wouldnt be all that expensive...

But yet,I believe hes just another Cutlet......Gonna throw thse untimely interceptions thats gonna leave us headscratching,but atleast he can most likely grasp the offense more than what we have now....

Cutler is not an unfair comparison. Prior to this season, though, where Cincy is just a catastrophe. He had sustained a 4 year run clearly better than what Cutler ever had. His INT% is also a good deal lower. Especially since his first few seasons.

Not to mention, even if he was just Jay Cutler. That's also a very clear upgrade over Mitch and he would have us in contention. Cutler was not good but at least he was a professional level QB who was also capable of going on good extended runs of play. When our D was elite in 10, 11 and 12. Jay went 27-13. Mitch has the #1 defense in the league by a multitude of metrics and is 4-6. That's unprecedented failure.

I still personally hope for Alex Smith. He knows the offense and his style of play is a bit more fit to facilitate a team with a great defense. He's efficient, solid and won't lose games.

 

[richig07]

It seems that the prevailing thought is that Mitch is going to get at least one more year as the starter, as the Bears have too much invested in him to give up on him before the end of the 2020-2021 season. Would you say that's accurate?

No, I don't think that's the prevailing opinion either.

The opposite is true. They have too much invested into the window with this defense to win now. They can't keep rolling out Trubisky.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Cutler is not an unfair comparison. Prior to this season, though, where Cincy is just a catastrophe. He had sustained a 4 year run clearly better than what Cutler ever had. His INT% is also a good deal lower. Especially since his first few seasons.

Not to mention, even if he was just Jay Cutler. That's also a very clear upgrade over Mitch and he would have us in contention. Cutler was not good but at least he was a professional level QB who was also capable of going on good extended runs of play. When our D was elite in 10, 11 and 12. Jay went 27-13. Mitch has the #1 defense in the league by a multitude of metrics and is 4-6. That's unprecedented failure.

I still personally hope for Alex Smith. He knows the offense and his style of play is a bit more fit to facilitate a team with a great defense. He's efficient, solid and won't lose games.

@wood20ks is right on this one.

Dalton's MO...he can make all the throws, he's mobile...but when the lights on stage are the brightest, he will fail.

That entire 5 yr consecutive run in the playoffs...each 1st round was met with defeat. Dalton can't be blamed for all of them, in fact his stupid ass DEF took one W from him against PIT actually, but generally speaking, he rarely made enough plays with the outcome in doubt to win to any of those games.

 

[wood20ks]

Cutler is not an unfair comparison. Prior to this season, though, where Cincy is just a catastrophe. He had sustained a 4 year run clearly better than what Cutler ever had. His INT% is also a good deal lower. Especially since his first few seasons.

Not to mention, even if he was just Jay Cutler. That's also a very clear upgrade over Mitch and he would have us in contention. Cutler was not good but at least he was a professional level QB who was also capable of going on good extended runs of play. When our D was elite in 10, 11 and 12. Jay went 27-13. Mitch has the #1 defense in the league by a multitude of metrics and is 4-6. That's unprecedented failure.

I still personally hope for Alex Smith. He knows the offense and his style of play is a bit more fit to facilitate a team with a great defense. He's efficient, solid and won't lose games.

Well actually I thought it was a fair comparison for the fact of the damn untimely interceptions......It just seems every time you think hes got the team going,damn,theres that int.........It just brings me back to cutler..........

But just like you said,Daltons definetley an upgrade over MT and would make us competetive again.............

 

[Sgt Brutus]

Fans when he retires

 

[wood20ks]

@wood20ks is right on this one.

Dalton's MO...he can make all the throws, he's mobile...but when the lights on stage are the brightest, he will fail.

That entire 5 yr consecutive run in the playoffs...each 1st round was met with defeat. Dalton can't be blamed for all of them, in fact his stupid ass DEF took one W from him against PIT actually, but generally speaking, he rarely made enough plays with the outcome in doubt to win to any of those games.

The bengals def has had a couple of guys that are nothing hoodlums that had/had all the talent in the world,but did no justice with their frustrations being taken out on the field....burfict and Pacman come to mind...........Those two were game killers.

 

[shopson67]

Yeah but the Bears don’t have any draft picks left since they gave them away to get Mitchy!

Wouldn't the Bengals give them picks to take him, lol? He's certainly not going to require a 1st rounder.

 

[richig07]

Well actually I thought it was a fair comparison for the fact of the damn untimely interceptions......It just seems every time you think hes got the team going,damn,theres that int.........It just brings me back to cutler..........

But just like you said,Daltons definetley an upgrade over MT and would make us competetive again.............

Yeah, I suppose I should have simply said "it's a fair comparison" instead of "it's not an unfair one".

 

[mcnabb7542]

Good points...The bigger question might be, who else would CHI be competing against?

The teams that come to mind...TN, maybe DEN...so that's a market I guess. Is Dalton better than Tannehill? Yes, but marginally imo...I think Tannehill will be much cheaper even as a starter...I don't see TN making a strong offer for Dalton. DEN...Elway is probably starting to get desperate. Will he roll the dice again on a vet QB? Or allow Lock a shot at the job next yr. At this point maybe.

I don't see MIA spending $17 mil on a QB next year when Joe Burrow or Tua will cost less than half that amount.

If the Bengals had a real front office they would’ve pulled the trigger already, but now it will come down to the Foles Effect” cut him at the end and get nothing in return except cap space

 

[mcnabb7542]

Wouldn't the Bengals give them picks to take him, lol? He's certainly not going to require a 1st rounder.

It wouldn’t be a #1 (unless someone is desperate) but you still take the biggest pile of picks you can get, again this roster is in rebuild get what you can to build it back up

 

[richig07]

@wood20ks is right on this one.

Dalton's MO...he can make all the throws, he's mobile...but when the lights on stage are the brightest, he will fail.

That entire 5 yr consecutive run in the playoffs...each 1st round was met with defeat. Dalton can't be blamed for all of them, in fact his stupid ass DEF took one W from him against PIT actually, but generally speaking, he rarely made enough plays with the outcome in doubt to win to any of those games.

AJ McCarron started the game vs Pittsburgh that was given away by Jeremy Hill and Pacman.

That was the most Bengals thing ever. That game was OVER. lol

 

[shopson67]

It wouldn’t be a #1 (unless someone is desperate) but you still take the biggest pile of picks you can get, again this roster is in rebuild get what you can to build it back up

Everyone knows they're moving on from him. He only has $200K in dead money against the cap. Teams will wait until the Bengals cut him loose this winter (unless someone "has to have him", which I can't imagine).

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Well actually I thought it was a fair comparison for the fact of the damn untimely interceptions......It just seems every time you think hes got the team going,damn,theres that int.........It just brings me back to cutler..........

But just like you said,Daltons definetley an upgrade over MT and would make us competetive again.............

the beautiful thing for Dalton if he went to the bears.
When they lose in the playoffs they wont blame him for once. They will blame the kicker.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Cutler is not an unfair comparison. Prior to this season, though, where Cincy is just a catastrophe. He had sustained a 4 year run clearly better than what Cutler ever had. His INT% is also a good deal lower. Especially since his first few seasons.

Not to mention, even if he was just Jay Cutler. That's also a very clear upgrade over Mitch and he would have us in contention. Cutler was not good but at least he was a professional level QB who was also capable of going on good extended runs of play. When our D was elite in 10, 11 and 12. Jay went 27-13. Mitch has the #1 defense in the league by a multitude of metrics and is 4-6. That's unprecedented failure.

I still personally hope for Alex Smith. He knows the offense and his style of play is a bit more fit to facilitate a team with a great defense. He's efficient, solid and won't lose games.

If the Bears could land a healthy Alex Smith. They would be dangerous.

 

[wood20ks]

If the Bears could land a healthy Alex Smith. They would be dangerous.

Alex smith is done...............

 

[ATL96Steeler]

If the Bengals had a real front office they would’ve pulled the trigger already, but now it will come down to the Foles Effect” cut him at the end and get nothing in return except cap space

Indeed...especially for a team that prefers to build via the draft primarily...both Dalton and AJ Green should be on other teams now and CIN should have at least 3 second round picks including their own to rebuild with. The sentimental stuff of wanting AJ Green to retire a Bengal is is a nice gesture, but makes no sense business wise. Dalton...they gave him the 1st half of the season to prove his worth to the new HC.

Maybe they move both guys prior to the draft, but right now the Bengals look silly with a 0-10 record with these two guys still on the team.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

AJ McCarron started the game vs Pittsburgh that was given away by Jeremy Hill and Pacman.

That was the most Bengals thing ever. That game was OVER. lol

True, but at least he would have a playoff W in CIN...I didn't remember Hill...IIRC nutcase Burfict was involved too, but it was Adams' 2nd 15 yd penalty that put PIT in FG range w/o even having to run a play.