How long before Paterno is "retired" ???

[yeodonie]

So why didn't this McQueary guy beat the living shit out of the ********* on the spot?

 

[starbigd]

BobsBlitz.com ~ WFAN's Kim Jones on the Penn State Sandusky Disgrace [Audio] - YouTube

At the 17 minute mark she pretty much shits on EVERYONE at Penn State......

This just gets worse by the hour

 

[MarkOU]

Just seen Curly's attorney on Sportscenter and that bitch is crazy.

She is passing the buck saying Curly did what everyone else did, passed it up the chain of command.

Someone really needs to kick all these son's of bitches in the balls.

 

[WoodyHayes1951]

Listen, he's not a *********, but this guy is just as culpable.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

Rumors are that he is out on Sunday after one last home game. Be and all involved (McQueary) will be on a "leave of absence" for the rest of the season.

In the offseason a complete washdown will occur.

 

[WoodyHayes1951]

How do you sleep at night witnessing something like that and turning a blind eye?

Even if he reported it to JoePa the following morning? How could he just walk away?

I'd be on suicide watch if I had left after making eye with a ten year old boy who was just begging for help silently....

 

[starbigd]

Seriously, everyone in that AD needs to be sent to the closest federal or state "pound them in the ass" prison they can find

NOBODY should walk away from this clean.

 

[axisoftime]

Seriously.....why would you send your kid to play there with that kind of crap going on?

that's what I'm saying. Ann Arbor, Madison and Columbus will feast on Pennsylvania talent for years to come

not trying to piss on the grave of Penn State University or anything, but... :confused2:

 

[757Hokie83]

I hope Joe Pa does not catch the brunt of this. A great man like him should not go down for the wrong doing of someone else. Obviously they were friends and colleagues. None of us would want to believe that someone that close to us was doing something like that. Especially not at the word of a graduate assistant. He did more than many of us would have done in that situation. You can try to be holier than thou art and act like you would do more in that situation, but you are lying to yourself and everyone else. What Sandusky did is unforgivable. He should be locked up for the rest of his life, but Paterno did not do these things and his legacy should not be effected by what he did not do. Nobody should go to the police with baseless allegations against a good friend. Think of friends you have had all of your life. Would you believe a young guy you barely know over them? People need to put this into perspective.

pretty sure eye witness accounts is a step above "baseless allegations".

 

[757Hokie83]

So why didn't this McQueary guy beat the living shit out of the ********* on the spot?

thats my biggest question. The perv would have left that shower on a stretcher if i had witnessed it.

 

[yeodonie]

How do you sleep at night witnessing something like that and turning a blind eye?

Even if he reported it to JoePa the following morning? How could he just walk away?

I'd be on suicide watch if I had left after making eye with a ten year old boy who was just begging for help silently....

That was my point. You're a grown man and witness this and your "action" is to tell someone else. Not beat the living heck out of the ********* and then drag his carcass to the police?

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

thats my biggest question. The perv would have left that shower on a stretcher if i had witnessed it.

That was my point. You're a grown man and witness this and your "action" is to tell someone else. Not beat the living heck out of the ********* and then drag his carcass to the police?

I would not have beaten the living shit out of Sandusky right then and there. I would have grabbed the kid, wrapped him in a towel, knocked Sandusky aside and left with the kid. The child had seen enough and witnessed enough at that point. An additional bloody assault was the last thing he needed. Now later...........when I had plenty of time to make it last........I would have taken care of the rest of that, jut not in front of a kid who had already seen too much.

 

[757Hokie83]

I would not have beaten the living shit out of Sandusky right then and there. I would have grabbed the kid, wrapped him in a towel, knocked Sandusky aside and left with the kid. The child had seen enough and witnessed enough at that point. An additional bloody assault was the last thing he needed. Now later...........when I had plenty of time to make it last........I would have taken care of the rest of that, jut not in front of a kid who had already seen too much.

probably the better method...but i dont think i would be thinking logically if i turned a corner and saw that going on

 

[Smart]

Rumors are that he is out on Sunday after one last home game. Be and all involved (McQueary) will be on a "leave of absence" for the rest of the season.

In the offseason a complete washdown will occur.

I imagine this is true, but i'll be stunned if they force Paterno to take a leave before the season is done. They're still in the middle of the B1G Title Race, and he is still Joe Paterno. This will undeniably harm his legacy, but he is still a legend who turned that program from nothing into a powerhouse. They aren't going to take away a chance for one last BCS Bowl for him.

 

[Smart]

By the way, the condemnation of Paterno is understandable, but if you think he would be alone in acting like this, you are only fooling yourself. No coach would want this to come out about his program, so passing along the information is probably as much or maybe even more than many coaches would do. If this were Bobby Petrino instead of Joe Paterno, nobody would be that stunned by his actions. This mess surrounding the head coach is occurring because we hold JoePa to a higher standard, and rightfully so.

 

[yeodonie]

Smart, it had NOTHING to do with the program until the cover up.

All programs cover things up but it's football things... not kids being sodomized.

If JoPa had done something immediately and saved future victims it wouldn't be a blemish on the program. Bad people blend in with society until they don't. You just say how completely appalled you are at the actions and how surprised you are at the behavior. You STOP HIM.

It's a program issue now because they let other kids get raped.

 

[757Hokie83]

Smart, it had NOTHING to do with the program until the cover up.

All programs cover things up but it's football things... not kids being sodomized.

If JoPa had done something immediately and saved future victims it wouldn't be a blemish on the program. Bad people blend in with society until they don't. You just say how completely appalled you are at the actions and how surprised you are at the behavior. You STOP HIM.

It's a program issue now because they let other kids get raped.

seriously...if JoePa, or the GA had stopped it when they first learned of it, they would be considered heroes in this case, the as yeodine said there would be no blemish.

as it is though the case has no heroes, they are all just pathetic cowards.

 

[Smart]

Smart, it had NOTHING to do with the program until the cover up.

All programs cover things up but it's football things... not kids being sodomized.

If JoPa had done something immediately and saved future victims it wouldn't be a blemish on the program. Bad people blend in with society until they don't. You just say how completely appalled you are at the actions and how surprised you are at the behavior. You STOP HIM.

It's a program issue now because they let other kids get raped.

I'm not sure that is true in this ESPN era. There would have been nonstop coverage of the Penn State sex abuse case, and it would have presented a negative association about the school's football program. Should JoePa have told the authorities? Absolutely, he should have. At the same time, he passed on the responsibility of dealing with the punishment of a close friend to his boss. That was the correct action at the time. When it became clear that Tim Curley wasn't doing anything, that was when JoePa should have acted. Remember, though, that this means pretty much ending the livelihood of two of his best friends.

Should he have done it? Yes. Did they deserve it? Yes. Does that mean that it is easy to do, or that all or even most coaches would have done it? No, it doesn't. Paterno screwed up here and ruined one of the greatest legacies of all time. That said, his actions were not anywhere near equivalent to Curley and the University President, so I don't know why he is being grouped with them.

 

[757Hokie83]

I'm not sure that is true in this ESPN era. There would have been nonstop coverage of the Penn State sex abuse case, and it would have presented a negative association about the school's football program. Should JoePa have told the authorities? Absolutely, he should have. At the same time, he passed on the responsibility of dealing with the punishment of a close friend to his boss. That was the correct action at the time. When it became clear that Tim Curley wasn't doing anything, that was when JoePa should have acted. Remember, though, that this means pretty much ending the livelihood of two of his best friends.

Should he have done it? Yes. Did they deserve it? Yes. Does that mean that it is easy to do, or that all or even most coaches would have done it? No, it doesn't. Paterno screwed up here and ruined one of the greatest legacies of all time. That said, his actions were not anywhere near equivalent to Curley and the University President, so I don't know why he is being grouped with them.

no. if there is even a suspicion of child r*pe...the first move is straight to the police. PERIOD.

best friend or not...we're talking about him raping little boys here...there are some grounds that friendship doesnt matter

 

[yeodonie]

He's being grouped with them because we expect our adults in this society to protect CHILDREN not the pedophiles that use them. He failed. Fine, let your boss know. If he does nothing then you go to him again and say you bring it out or I'm going to. Give him that chance to fix himself. When JoPa's bosses don't act at that point he has a MORAL obligation to protect these kids from someone that he has put in a position for parents to trust their kids with.