All Elite Wrestling

[wazzu31]

ESPN puts the main UFC stuff on their ESPN+ streaming, extra subscription deal. I am pretty sure the UFC deal is 10 times minimum what an unknown wrestling alliance will be getting. I would guess Freeform or pop tv, or wherever you have to dig to find all japan pro wrestling.

I still say Vince buys it before it gets this far

Does Vince even have the capital to buy them out? Aren’t the Khan worth like 10 times what Vince or the WWE is?

 

[Duffman]

Does Vince even have the capital to buy them out? Aren’t the Khan worth like 10 times what Vince or the WWE is?

Quick Google search says Khan is worth 7.3 billion while Vince is worth 3.5 billion. Of course you'd have to know what Khan would be willing to sell AEW for(which is wont) and whether Vince cares enough to buy it(he doesn't).

UFC just sold for 4 billion and if by some chance Vince wanted to buy it with how little AEW is Khan could reasonably sell it for around 200-400 million depending on what their tv deal is which is well in Vince's price range.

 

[futballiscool]

The Undertaker And Kurt Angle Pulled From Starrcast Over AEW, Conrad Thompson Reveals What Happened - Wrestling Inc.

 

[wildturkey]

Always been a fan of Johnny Nitro/John Morrison/Johnny Mundo/Johnny Impact/infinity names.

 

[wazzu31]

Quick Google search says Khan is worth 7.3 billion while Vince is worth 3.5 billion. Of course you'd have to know what Khan would be willing to sell AEW for(which is wont) and whether Vince cares enough to buy it(he doesn't).

UFC just sold for 4 billion and if by some chance Vince wanted to buy it with how little AEW is Khan could reasonably sell it for around 200-400 million depending on what their tv deal is which is well in Vince's price range.

That’s Vince’s worth but he has put a crap load of money into restarting the XFL. I just am not sure he has the available capital to purchase any other promotion.

 

[futballiscool]

 

[iowajerms]

I got watching the YouTube promos of AEW and got to say it got me intrigued. If they do it right and time it right, they can compete with Raw. Right now, I see it as Independent All Stars. Which is fine. A great way to start. But like WCW, you have to pull WWE stars and improve their character.

I see this as those PPV events that territories did when WWF first went national and got NWA's best talent from many territories together to make a super event.

However, they have to uh se what does work for WWE and use it, and not try to be so different. Once WWE contracts expire, we will see how much they challenge WWE.

 

[OregonDucks]

I got watching the YouTube promos of AEW and got to say it got me intrigued. If they do it right and time it right, they can compete with Raw. Right now, I see it as Independent All Stars. Which is fine. A great way to start. But like WCW, you have to pull WWE stars and improve their character.

I see this as those PPV events that territories did when WWF first went national and got NWA's best talent from many territories together to make a super event.

However, they have to uh se what does work for WWE and use it, and not try to be so different. Once WWE contracts expire, we will see how much they challenge WWE.

Yeah, I don't know the current talks of any sort of TV contracts, but until they sign with a major cable network I see AEW being this huge event every couple of months. They can use social media and the smarks to build their product and sell out events.

Once they get a TV deal, and I hope it's a legit TV deal and not some sort of Destination Art ID Network type channel like TNA was, they can really build their brand, but they have to be different from WWE, but not too different. Different enough that people are intrigued, but similar enough that people can find it as a solid alternative. Whatever WWE has done works, it's kept them in business and they have grown over the last 20 years. That's impressive, so no need for AEW to try and reinvent the wheel. Be different, but not too different. Use WWE's model, tweak it a bit and make it attractive to wrestling fans.

Really right now for AEW if they can capture an audience and create just a little bit of a compelling storylines they will be just fine. They'll get the initial intrigue bump from viewers, but that is where they need to keep the viewers, and that is where you need to be able to come up with good storylines.

 

[futballiscool]

Yeah, I don't know the current talks of any sort of TV contracts, but until they sign with a major cable network I see AEW being this huge event every couple of months. They can use social media and the smarks to build their product and sell out events.

Once they get a TV deal, and I hope it's a legit TV deal and not some sort of Destination Art ID Network type channel like TNA was, they can really build their brand, but they have to be different from WWE, but not too different. Different enough that people are intrigued, but similar enough that people can find it as a solid alternative. Whatever WWE has done works, it's kept them in business and they have grown over the last 20 years. That's impressive, so no need for AEW to try and reinvent the wheel. Be different, but not too different. Use WWE's model, tweak it a bit and make it attractive to wrestling fans.

Really right now for AEW if they can capture an audience and create just a little bit of a compelling storylines they will be just fine. They'll get the initial intrigue bump from viewers, but that is where they need to keep the viewers, and that is where you need to be able to come up with good storylines.

The announcement on a TV deal is inevitable. JR said it's on a major cable network starting October.

 

[Duffman]

So I know Cody keeps saying "coming soon" but the PPV is less than a month away and apparently no one told AEW that it's actually smart to tell people where they can watch your PPV before the last minute. Literally no cable provider has the Double or Nothing show on their schedule for May 25th.

 

[OregonDucks]

So I know Cody keeps saying "coming soon" but the PPV is less than a month away and apparently no one told AEW that it's actually smart to tell people where they can watch your PPV before the last minute. Literally no cable provider has the Double or Nothing show on their schedule for May 25th.

Keep it underground and get people talking.

 

[futballiscool]

So I know Cody keeps saying "coming soon" but the PPV is less than a month away and apparently no one told AEW that it's actually smart to tell people where they can watch your PPV before the last minute. Literally no cable provider has the Double or Nothing show on their schedule for May 25th.

My guess is the PPV model and cable show are both tied together in negotiations and that's creating the delayed announcement.

 

[wildturkey]

So I know Cody keeps saying "coming soon" but the PPV is less than a month away and apparently no one told AEW that it's actually smart to tell people where they can watch your PPV before the last minute. Literally no cable provider has the Double or Nothing show on their schedule for May 25th.

My guess is the PPV model and cable show are both tied together in negotiations and that's creating the delayed announcement.

With this in mind, I looked it up and the Warnermedia (TNT, TBS, etc) Upfronts is on May 15th. Double or Nothing is May 25th. So if the deal is with Turner, its possible they could announce that the DoN show will be available on Turner's streaming app at the Upfronts which is why we haven't seen an announcement yet.

 

[Duffman]

All Elite Wrestling's Double or Nothing is listed as a PPV event on 5/25 on AT&T's Uverse with a 7 PM EST start time.

 

[jeffro151]

All Elite Wrestling TV Deal w/ TNT Expected To Be Announced Next Week

 

[Duffman]

It'll be interesting to see how they do given that TNT is a name people recognize but it's not a super popular network for content outside of sports.

 

[futballiscool]

It'll be interesting to see how they do given that TNT is a name people recognize but it's not a super popular network for content outside of sports.

Overall it was 7th out of 108 cable channels. It's very comparable to USA if you took out USAs WWE programming. Other than landing on ESPN this was as good as they could have done in terms of exposure.

109 Cable Channels Ranked by Viewers, From Fox News to Comedy.TV

 

[Duffman]

Overall it was 7th out of 108 cable channels. It's very comparable to USA if you took out USAs WWE programming. Other than landing on ESPN this was as good as they could have done in terms of exposure.

109 Cable Channels Ranked by Viewers, From Fox News to Comedy.TV

But how much of that is all the Sports they have making them look like a great network?

Looking at the numbers from different sites around the internet it seems TNT’s highest rated show that was one they just renewed with Animal Kingdom and their best was 1.2 million viewers. And hell they just cancelled a show that did 2.1 million.

Now I’m sure AEW would love 1.2 million viewers but that seems more like TNA on Spike TV numbers then something that can really change the market.

 

[StanMarsh51]

But how much of that is all the Sports they have making them look like a great network?

Looking at the numbers from different sites around the internet it seems TNT’s highest rated show that was one they just renewed with Animal Kingdom and their best was 1.2 million viewers. And hell they just cancelled a show that did 2.1 million.

Now I’m sure AEW would love 1.2 million viewers but that seems more like TNA on Spike TV numbers then something that can really change the market.

Back in the '90s however when WCW was drawing big ratings, it wasn't as if TNT had major original programming back then...

TNT's always been largely a movie channel with sports mixed in..

 

[wazzu31]

But how much of that is all the Sports they have making them look like a great network?

Looking at the numbers from different sites around the internet it seems TNT’s highest rated show that was one they just renewed with Animal Kingdom and their best was 1.2 million viewers. And hell they just cancelled a show that did 2.1 million.

Now I’m sure AEW would love 1.2 million viewers but that seems more like TNA on Spike TV numbers then something that can really change the market.

I think a lot of it is because of sports fans. It’s how TNT or TBS even became viable cable channels nationwide. NWA/WCW then eventually the Braves is what drew fans in. Just like since ESPN came around sports will always draw viewers to garbage networks and make them viable. TNT it is a channel that is primarily for the NBA because their studio show is realistically the best sports show going on in the country then the other viewers are made up older viewers. That is where WCW failed, there target demographic wasn’t actually the demographic that drew the most money and the executives took wrestling fans for granted and wrongfully assumed without wrestling there channel would be a top tier channel. Instead they became a re run network, then shit shows no one cares about and then it turned into older movies for the older audience. They need young viewers so they don’t end up the way CMT did with cable companies making you pay more money just for that channel.

It is a great coup for them as wrestling has always led to good ratings of other crappy television shows.