Game of Thrones

[DIKOWT DOWG]

Bran being marked by the night king was how they were able to finally get to the three eyed raven.

yes. i know the scene well. that isn't changing much. i think your pointing that out because of my comment about the NK could have killed him the 3 eyed raven at any time. well, when he found him, he killed him with little effort. nobody could stop him.

so im back to why is it now the NK decided to do this. it's not an every 1000 year storm. i refuse to believe he is just a mindless beast who's only purpose is to kill. there is a much deeper reason. so what is that reason? it has to be more than becasue that's what he does.

imo this is a war created by the CofTF to kill off the NK and they are using the three eyed raven and humans as a weapon. And at the end, one human will figure this out and will join the NK in ending the war ... again. And that person will be considered a traitor to humans even though that person saved them.

 

[rsw626]

No. The commander of the Night's Watch is voted on by his brothers. Some Starks have been commander, but it is not a requirement. Starks, being a people of great duty and honor and Warden of the North, have always done their part sending minor sons to serve.

This. He never said there HAS to be a Stark in the Nights Watch, only that the Starks have a long history and connection to them. Think of it like some families now. Many do have a sense of honor or duty to serve in the military, but no requirement.

And yes, we need Toadman here.

 

[Proud_Okie]

Where on earth is @Toadman005 when you need him?

Banned from the entertainment forum, I believe.

 

[rsw626]

yes. i know the scene well. that isn't changing much. i think your pointing that out because of my comment about the NK could have killed him the 3 eyed raven at any time. well, when he found him, he killed him with little effort. nobody could stop him.

so im back to why is it now the NK decided to do this. it's not an every 1000 year storm. i refuse to believe he is just a mindless beast who's only purpose is to kill. there is a much deeper reason. so what is that reason? it has to be more than becasue that's what he does.

imo this is a war created by the CofTF to kill off the NK and they are using the three eyed raven and humans as a weapon. And at the end, one human will figure this out and will join the NK in ending the war ... again. And that person will be considered a traitor to humans even though that person saved them.

Again, and pay attention, he was only able to kill the Three Eyed Raven AFTER he touched Bran making the magic that protected him go away. Remember, before that there were wights etc outside the cave when Bran and company arrived but they couldn’t go in.

 

[batchaps4me]

I'd rather think the NK is searching for something and it is located in Winterfell.
I mean, he could easily just bypass it if he had to go someplace else, right?
Some dark secret has to be within the crypts.

I believe this as well and the answer is tied to Brandon the Builder marrying a WW woman. IMHO she is in the crypts and that loss is why the NK does not allow women to be made into WWs. I also believe that the ending will tie explain the evolution of the religions from old gods to new gods back to the one god, death.

 

[TemptressToo]

I think the NK's mission is what it has always been. Eliminate humanity. The only reason they have made progress is that the long winter has come. You can blame climate change.

They cannot exist without the climate aiding them in their endeavors. There is usually not snow in King's Landing...but there will be which aids the horde of undead.

 

[Superbelt]

I believe this as well and the answer is tied to Brandon the Builder marrying a WW woman. IMHO she is in the crypts and that loss is why the NK does not allow women to be made into WWs. I also believe that the ending will tie explain the evolution of the religions from old gods to new gods back to the one god, death.

The Night King and the Nights King are two different characters.

This is the show runners being confusing.

Show Night King doesn't exist (at least not yet) in the books. He was created by the COTF before there was a Nights Watch.

Book Nights King was the 13th Lord Commander of the Nights Watch, created after the WW were a threat.

What's the Difference Between the Night King and Night's King? | Inverse

 

[DIKOWT DOWG]

I'd rather think the NK is searching for something and it is located in Winterfell.
I mean, he could easily just bypass it if he had to go someplace else, right?
Some dark secret has to be within the crypts.

that's interesting and pretty much what i'm trying to generate with my thoughts. we know where the books started us off. but rarely is much predictable with that author. and we know the original writer is no longer making up the story.

the NK being some bumbling idiot that likes the taste of humans or the NK demanding total domination doesn't fit with how this author style imo. there is a very serious reason the NK has returned and its not power for the NK, IMO. thats too simple for me. i expect some message in morality or maybe how humans spread like a virus and a planets resources is at the core of this.

 

[Sparhawk]

yes. i know the scene well. that isn't changing much. i think your pointing that out because of my comment about the NK could have killed him the 3 eyed raven at any time. well, when he found him, he killed him with little effort. nobody could stop him.

so im back to why is it now the NK decided to do this. it's not an every 1000 year storm. i refuse to believe he is just a mindless beast who's only purpose is to kill. there is a much deeper reason. so what is that reason? it has to be more than becasue that's what he does.

imo this is a war created by the CofTF to kill off the NK and they are using the three eyed raven and humans as a weapon. And at the end, one human will figure this out and will join the NK in ending the war ... again. And that person will be considered a traitor to humans even though that person saved them.

Bear in mind, the 3ER told Bran he wasn't ready.
The 3ER is all nice and comfy and has nothing to worry about because of the magic barrier.
Enter : Bran
The 3ER appears to be a cycle of sorts in that there always has to be one to provide balance, maybe between the living and the dead.

Only way the NK kills 3ER is if Bran realizes his powers, finds the 3ER, then has a vision in which NK touches him, thus causing the death of the 3ER. I'm thinking 3ER knew this, but had to let events unfold and that Bran would eventually figure it out.

The 3ER knew his time was up and had his replacement come to him.
Maybe the NK knows his time up and is going to find his replacement....

 

[Sparhawk]

Again, and pay attention, he was only able to kill the Three Eyed Raven AFTER he touched Bran making the magic that protected him go away. Remember, before that there were wights etc outside the cave when Bran and company arrived but they couldn’t go in.

A skelly tried to cross and was instantly shattered as soon as it crossed the barrier.

 

[TemptressToo]

Bear in mind, the 3ER told Bran he wasn't ready.
The 3ER is all nice and comfy and has nothing to worry about because of the magic barrier.
Enter : Bran
The 3ER appears to be a cycle of sorts in that there always has to be one to provide balance, maybe between the living and the dead.

Only way the NK kills 3ER is if Bran realizes his powers, finds the 3ER, then has a vision in which NK touches him, thus causing the death of the 3ER. I'm thinking 3ER knew this, but had to let events unfold and that Bran would eventually figure it out.

The 3ER knew his time was up and had his replacement come to him.
Maybe the NK knows his time up and is going to find his replacement....

The 3ER does know all of this. It is his destiny and the destiny of Bran to continue.

 

[Sparhawk]

I believe this as well and the answer is tied to Brandon the Builder marrying a WW woman. IMHO she is in the crypts and that loss is why the NK does not allow women to be made into WWs. I also believe that the ending will tie explain the evolution of the religions from old gods to new gods back to the one god, death.

Nice!
I like that. The magic has kept the NK and his bride separated. She is locked in the crypts of Winterfell and the NK is attempting to free her.

It does fit with the 'do anything for love/family' theme.

 

[DIKOWT DOWG]

I think the NK's mission is what it has always been. Eliminate humanity. The only reason they have made progress is that the long winter has come. You can blame climate change.

They cannot exist without the climate aiding them in their endeavors. There is usually not snow in King's Landing...but there will be which aids the horde of undead.

i think a story line where the only purpose of the NK is mindless evil, killing off humanity for greed or selfish reason too simple.

 

[Inquisitor95]

Banned from the entertainment forum, I believe.

Yeah he brought political BS into the Captain Marvel thread.

Again he was warned.

Again he ignored the warning.

 

[TemptressToo]

Nice!
I like that. The magic has kept the NK and his bride separated. She is locked in the crypts of Winterfell and the NK is attempting to free her.

It does fit with the 'do anything for love/family' theme.

Thing is, the NK wouldn't need an army to do that. While I agree the crypts do play a role yet to be seen, I don't think this is the reason.

 

[TemptressToo]

Banned from the entertainment forum, I believe.

Well this needs to be undone. He's extremely well informed on all things GOT. Mad street cred in the midst of all this wild imagination flying around.

It is known.

 

[TemptressToo]

For ya'll needing a little brush up.

 

[Sparhawk]

Thing is, the NK wouldn't need an army to do that. While I agree the crypts do play a role yet to be seen, I don't think this is the reason.

No, it's probably not THE reason, but it is an entertaining notion that the NK has 'family' in the crypts. He needs an army because I would expect there to be some resistance given the history.

 

[DIKOWT DOWG]

Show Night King doesn't exist (at least not yet) in the books. He was created by the COTF before there was a Nights Watch.


What's the Difference Between the Night King and Night's King? | Inverse

it's the story about the nights king where i'm getting my thougths. I'm suggesting the Nights King was the one that worked out the original deal with the Night King and what ended that first war. And why the NK returned to the north. I'm thinking the deal was there wasn't supposed to be any humans north of the wall, but we screwed that up and that's why he's back.

the nights watch made things worse with their constant patrols north of the wall. i don't think even the nights king was supposed to travel north of the wall.

i haven't looked at your link, but will.

 

[Superbelt]

it's the story about the nights king where i'm getting my thougths. I'm suggesting the Nights King was the one that worked out the original deal with the Night King and what ended that first war. And why the NK returned to the north. I'm thinking the deal was there wasn't supposed to be any humans north of the wall, but we screwed that up and that's why he's back.

the nights watch made things worse with their constant patrols north of the wall. i don't think even the nights king was supposed to travel north of the wall.

i haven't looked at your link, but will.

I think it's too late to introduce the Night's King and his mythology into this.

And then they'd have to change his name, too.

Add this to the pile of confusing things the creators did, like rename Asha Greyjoy to Yara, because of an existing tertiary character, Osha sounds too similar.