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Who should or will get the head coaching job?
 

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Should: Chris Holtmann

Will: One of Eric Mussleman/Fred Hoiberg/Gregg Marshall
 

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Should: Chris Holtmann

Will: One of Eric Mussleman/Fred Hoiberg/Gregg Marshall

What’s wrong with musselman or the mayor?

Musselman would be a great get. Look what he’s doing at Nevada. Has west coast ties. He’s the guy imo
 

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What’s wrong with musselman or the mayor?

Musselman would be a great get. Look what he’s doing at Nevada. Has west coast ties. He’s the guy imo

I don't think they fit at UCLA. UCLA doesn't take transfers. Or should I say as many as those guys have taken to be successful. I know Mussleman has been awesome at Nevada, just not sure it's the right fit for UCLA. Hypothetically if a job like Wake Forest or DePaul opens up, I think he'd fit better there. Just a contrast of philosophies.
 

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Should: Chris Holtmann

Will: One of Eric Mussleman/Fred Hoiberg/Gregg Marshall

Hoiberg would be a bad hire, unless UCLA just wants to rely on JUCO's to carry them. Would Hoiberg even be interested? I've heard he has no interest in returning to CBB.

could see Mussleman being the guy
 

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Hoiberg would be a bad hire, unless UCLA just wants to rely on JUCO's to carry them. Would Hoiberg even be interested? I've heard he has no interest in returning to CBB.

could see Mussleman being the guy
To be fair, Hoiberg relied on transfers from other D1 Universities not JuCo transfers. That being said, traditional recruiting was not his forte. Helluva College Coach though.
 

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To be fair, Hoiberg relied on transfers from other D1 Universities not JuCo transfers. That being said, traditional recruiting was not his forte. Helluva College Coach though.

whoops, I kinda blended in jucos and 4 year uni transfers in together

You are right
 

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Should: Chris Holtmann

Will: One of Eric Mussleman/Fred Hoiberg/Gregg Marshall

When Thad was all the rage you used to see him brought up like this occasionally. Seriously for anything less than Kansas, UK, or Duke it makes no sense to leave OSU. Yes UCLA is undoubtedly the better school historically but the pressure to win versus ability to win far outweigh the job.
 

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When Thad was all the rage you used to see him brought up like this occasionally. Seriously for anything less than Kansas, UK, or Duke it makes no sense to leave OSU. Yes UCLA is undoubtedly the better school historically but the pressure to win versus ability to win far outweigh the job.

I'm not saying he's going to leave OSU. I just think that's who UCLA should hire. And I'd still say UCLA is the better job, but it's slightly at that.
 

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I'm not saying he's going to leave OSU. I just think that's who UCLA should hire. And I'd still say UCLA is the better job, but it's slightly at that.

I agree Ucla is still the better gig. As would be Arizona or something similar. But yea not so much as to make most leave a place just under them when they're building something. Obviously I would put a decent amount of BIG schools on that list with OSU.

At least imo
 

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UCLA needs to hire Ernie Kent
 

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I agree Ucla is still the better gig. As would be Arizona or something similar. But yea not so much as to make most leave a place just under them when they're building something. Obviously I would put a decent amount of BIG schools on that list with OSU.

At least imo

Agreed. I just think Holtmann is really freaking good. I think he'd kill it at UCLA. But he's going to do that at OSU too, and given his Midwest/East ties, I can understand why someone like him wouldn't go out West. But that'd be my first call if I'm UCLA.
 

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Back in the day, UCLA may have been a premier job. Now??? Only reason someone might want to move to UCLA is to take advantage of how frigging horrible the Pac is right now.

But with as high as expectations are at UCLA, it could be THE WORST coaching job in America.


And Pitino will NEVER go to UCLA.
 

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Agreed. I just think Holtmann is really freaking good. I think he'd kill it at UCLA. But he's going to do that at OSU too, and given his Midwest/East ties, I can understand why someone like him wouldn't go out West. But that'd be my first call if I'm UCLA.


I don't see Holtmann going to Ucla. He's making $7 million coaching at OSU, and Alford was making $2.6 when he was fired. When it comes to salaries the rest of the Pac 12 is similarly paid.

Hurley $2.1
Altman $2.7
Boyle $1.4
Kent $1.4
Jones $1.1

Only Miller($3.65 and Krystkowiak($3.39) are making substantially more and they have worked for some time improving their salaries.

If money is no object or shitty baggage then they may go after Pitino and deal with his reputation or go with a former NBA player like Earl Watson is what I'm hearing.
 

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Honestly, I don't understand how you can screw up a program like UCLA.

UCLA basically recruits for itself and unlike Uconn, Louisville, and Arizona, it's located in the #1 hotbed for basketball recruits.

You're not going to perform well in the tournament every year, but some success in the regular season should be expected.
 

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Honestly, I don't understand how you can screw up a program like UCLA.

UCLA basically recruits for itself and unlike Uconn, Louisville, and Arizona, it's located in the #1 hotbed for basketball recruits.

You're not going to perform well in the tournament every year, but some success in the regular season should be expected.

Arizona has warm weather and is close enough.

The nicest thing about UConn’s location is it’s close enough to the prep schools.

But that’s not “home” for most of these guys.
 

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Honestly, I don't understand how you can screw up a program like UCLA.

UCLA basically recruits for itself and unlike Uconn, Louisville, and Arizona, it's located in the #1 hotbed for basketball recruits.

You're not going to perform well in the tournament every year, but some success in the regular season should be expected.

I hear ya, but kids today have no clue about nostalgia or prestige associated with a school's program history. These kids probably heard of the Titles and John Wooden but not one of them has most likely ever read any of his books.
 

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I hear ya, but kids today have no clue about nostalgia or prestige associated with a school's program history. These kids probably heard of the Titles and John Wooden but not one of them has most likely ever read any of his books.

That's because most of them can't read to begin with.
 
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