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No, I'm telling you what you said was wrong. It's the QBs job when he gets to the line to look at the defense and decide what defense they are in and take that into account before he snaps the ball. No one but the QB in the building can do that.
. I’m not wrong. A great offensive coordinator like McVay will predetermine reads for his QB based on presnap looks. The center is supposed to help the QB diagnose the D as well presnap. You say it’s all on the QB. That is 100% false.
 

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You just keeping blaming everything on Linehan. No one thinks he is doing a great job and I think most of us want to move on from him, but pretending it's all his fault is just not close to accurate. Any team can have plays posted where each receiver runs some type of "stop " route. At some point you stop on your route unless you are running a deep route which isn't run anywhere near every play in the NFL. Look at those pictures you posted, there is at least one guy open in every single one.
You completely missed the point. The point of emphasis was on the lack of deep throws by Dak. The general consensus by Dak haters is that he’s scared to throw it deep. Wrong. He rarely gets the opportunity because of this uncreative offense. You look at those pics and immediately point to who’s open when that’s not the point. The point was poor play designs, and how predictable they were to the point that the Eagles were sitting on every route. Which is often the case every week which is why our offense can look so bad for consecutive possessions. Which is how a team can put up near 600 yards and only score 29 pts.
 

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How can the coordinator recognize what they are doing pre-snap on a particular play??? The play is already called and the communication in the helmet is shut off. The QBs job is to walk up to the line and read the defense and then make decisions based on what he sees. Heck, 90% of the reason to put a guy in motion is simply to see if it's man or zone
By watching film. If the coordinator is very good like McVay, he already has predetermined reads for his QB to act on based on presnap alignment. The center should also be helping the QB as well. It’s not all on the QB.
 

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First down is just to predictable to me, Run Zeke, and when we are third and long, it is always a check down by Dak. It is a give up play. I have never seen that from any team I have ever watched, except this one. I bet we are a league low at converting 3rd and long. Is it Dak or is it the play call.
Most of the time, it’s the play call. Sometimes it’s Dak.
 

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Dak is Dak. He isn’t going to win many throwing contests. To me the OC is putting him in the best position to succeed. It’s about execution and all it takes is one of the eleven to make a mistake and the play can be messed up. I’ve said it for a month that I wanted to see Dak use the middle of the field more. Well yesterday he used it more and threw 2 Ints and sailed another that was almost picked. We escaped it. He can work on it. I just don’t get the Linehan bashing when the supposed inaccurate, weak armed QB- not my description- goes 42-54 and has completed about 75 percent of his passes the last 5 games. Obviously they are hitting on things Dak likes to do. I know he is using Zeke more. The TEs caught 9-10 passes yesterday too. I’m not saying the guy is Bill Walsh but damn we are playing good offense and it’s like we have to blame someone for something. Players have to execute. We have to do better in the red zone. Everyone knows what we are doing but Zeke is either first or second in rushing.
This was the worst offense in the NFC outside Arizona before the Amari trade. Amari saved the offense. He gave us a legit #1 WR while simultaneously opening up the run game for Zeke. Defense been carrying the team all year.

I keep hearing about execution. Linehan often puts the offense in spots where it’s impossible to execute. Bootlegs on first down that kill drives. Every WR on the field running comebacks on 3rd and long. An abundance of running plays right into the teeth of the defense with 8 in the box. I could go on. The GW TD was an impossible play to execute and it only worked because of luck. Eagles knew exactly what the Cowboys were doing. Douglas sat on the route and caught a bad break. Of course, I’m happy as hell the break went our way. I ain’t complaining, it’s just that that play call highlights how bad Linehan is. Linehan is absolute poison.
 

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The play calling was much better with Jason Garrett even with his flaws. That’s why I have no problem with him as the head coach. Garrett gets these boys ready. These players play for him. He’s become an underrated coach. But Linehan HAS GOT TO GO.
 

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Dak completes 68% of his passes in one of the absolute worst schemes in football. You complain about the 32% he doesn't complete.
If you are checking the ball down on third down alot, that completion percentage is inflated. Come on you know that . Dak and this offense checkes the ball down more then most teams. When you dont throw the ball deep, your completion % should be better then say drew brees. Even with that, anyone can see that Dak even struggles with short passes, behind the guy etc..so his completion % should be even better lol
 

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. I’m not wrong. A great offensive coordinator like McVay will predetermine reads for his QB based on presnap looks. The center is supposed to help the QB diagnose the D as well presnap. You say it’s all on the QB. That is 100% false.
I've never once even alluded to it all being the QB. I praise Dak constantly. I just also point out what he can do better. I feel like I am back in the Tony Romo vortex here. i'm arguing with half the people that Dak is good and the other half that he isn't great.:what:
 

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You completely missed the point. The point of emphasis was on the lack of deep throws by Dak. The general consensus by Dak haters is that he’s scared to throw it deep. Wrong. He rarely gets the opportunity because of this uncreative offense. You look at those pics and immediately point to who’s open when that’s not the point. The point was poor play designs, and how predictable they were to the point that the Eagles were sitting on every route. Which is often the case every week which is why our offense can look so bad for consecutive possessions. Which is how a team can put up near 600 yards and only score 29 pts.
I didn't miss anything at all actually. No one throws deep all of the time and no one runs deep patterns all of the time. The screencaps were taken out of context and agenda driven by the whoever that person is to show how poor the Cowboys patterns were, yet STILL even in those agenda driven still frames the Cowboys had guys open on every play so it can't be that horrible or transparent. When you run a bunch of "stops patterns" (I don't even like that term because it lumps all kinds of different patterns together - for example crossing patterns clearly aren't stop patterns) in a row it opens up the deep ball just like it did multiple times last week, the same way that pounding the rock leads to success on PAP.
 

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This was the worst offense in the NFC outside Arizona before the Amari trade. Amari saved the offense. He gave us a legit #1 WR while simultaneously opening up the run game for Zeke. Defense been carrying the team all year.

I keep hearing about execution. Linehan often puts the offense in spots where it’s impossible to execute. Bootlegs on first down that kill drives. Every WR on the field running comebacks on 3rd and long. An abundance of running plays right into the teeth of the defense with 8 in the box. I could go on. The GW TD was an impossible play to execute and it only worked because of luck. Eagles knew exactly what the Cowboys were doing. Douglas sat on the route and caught a bad break. Of course, I’m happy as hell the break went our way. I ain’t complaining, it’s just that that play call highlights how bad Linehan is. Linehan is absolute poison.
Here's where I differ. I absolutely love the early down bootlegs and they work. Even if the defense stops it, it keeps them honest for the rest of the game and they can't crash down to stop Zeke. A huge part of what Dak brings to this team is his ability to run.

Totally agree with your point on 3rd and long calls being poor, but not at all with your specific point. It is not usually everyone running comebacks at all. Most of the 3rd and long calls have the receivers going downfield or crossing away to clear out the stupid screen call to Zeke.
 

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If you are checking the ball down on third down alot, that completion percentage is inflated. Come on you know that . Dak and this offense checkes the ball down more then most teams. When you dont throw the ball deep, your completion % should be better then say drew brees. Even with that, anyone can see that Dak even struggles with short passes, behind the guy etc..so his completion % should be even better lol
Your stupidity is giving me a headache. Dak threw the ball deep last week and still completed nearly 80% of his passes.
 

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sounds like tomodach10 has been hanging around PE1 to much.

Dont get me wrong. Dak has his flaws, but did you know in the last two years he was rated 3rd on the long ball? Granted he didnt do it to often, but you cant blame him for that. Our OC's uses the book "Coaching for dummies" to call plays.
 

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I think Linehan calls plays that his Qb can make and is comfortable with them.
 

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This Chiefs Qb doesn’t look too bad.
 

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sounds like tomodach10 has been hanging around PE1 to much.

Dont get me wrong. Dak has his flaws, but did you know in the last two years he was rated 3rd on the long ball? Granted he didnt do it to often, but you cant blame him for that. Our OC's uses the book "Coaching for dummies" to call plays.
Is that completion % on long balls.
Your stupidity is giving me a headache. Dak threw the ball deep last week and still completed nearly 80% of his passes.

Your dumb justifications for Dak makes you look stupid. Keep your lips pressed to his ass for all I care.
 

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sounds like tomodach10 has been hanging around PE1 to much.

Dont get me wrong. Dak has his flaws, but did you know in the last two years he was rated 3rd on the long ball? Granted he didnt do it to often, but you cant blame him for that. Our OC's uses the book "Coaching for dummies" to call plays.
Granted he did not do it often. So what's the point of you mentioning a useless stat.?
 

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Granted he did not do it often. So what's the point of you mentioning a useless stat.?
point being he is more successful at it than you think. & that was throwing to a bunch of WRs that would be #3's or worse on most other teams.
 

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Granted he did not do it often. So what's the point of you mentioning a useless stat.?
I don't know where the stat came from and can only assume it's true, but how is it useless if it is directly related to the point about deep ball accuracy? I've always felt that unlike Romo, Dak was pretty accurate on deep balls. Romo seemed to miss them almost every single time. Dak missed a few this year but hit on a few too.
 

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I don't know where the stat came from and can only assume it's true, but how is it useless if it is directly related to the point about deep ball accuracy? I've always felt that unlike Romo, Dak was pretty accurate on deep balls. Romo seemed to miss them almost every single time. Dak missed a few this year but hit on a few too.[/QUO
Because Dak was rated 27th in deep ball pass attempts.
 

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but was 3rd in passer rating

Sounds like he did ok when he tried them.

Maybe blame the gameplan not the Qb for this one.
Which is my point in another thread. We need to attempt more deep plays.
I have a feeling with Gallup & Cooper we will start throwing the deep ball a lil more.
 
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