So how did Seattle not fall off?

[NWPATSFAN]

I cannot begin to tell you the frustration I have felt over the Mariners organization, It's been a $#%^@$ cluster fuc#$%&$#@ ... Just when you think they can't do anything dumber, they exceed my expectations of dumb ...

That ownership group hasn't done the fans of Seattle any favors. Ichiro, Ichiro, Ichiro

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Somewhat.

The point we don't see at eye level is Seattle not making a run.

My point was that beat 5/6 or both and we got a wildcard.

We might not be the Sexiest guy in the dance, there is sexier, but that don't mean that we can not leave with the Sexiest girl.

Seattle does not have the talent to win it all. Making the playoffs is a stretch. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I highly doubt it.

 

[seafandoghawk]

Some Seattle fans are delusional. They have fallen. It's been 10 years since this team last won only 5 games. Granted the season isn't over so that # will likely climb but minus the year they snuck into the playoffs at 7-9 this has been a 10+ win team over the past decade.

This "so many people" had them at 4 wins is crap. Yes there were a couple pundits and even maybe one or two so called Hawk fans who predicted 4 wins. But the majority had them at a 7 or 8 win team. Right about where they will likely finish. That's not good especially playing SF and AZ twice.

There were also some very optimistic fans that thought they would still be a 10+ win team. It goes both ways.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can contrive contentiousness when little or no disagreement actually exists. First , which Hawk fan in this discussion has denied or disputed, at all, That the Hawks have declined as compared to their dominant years? I'll wait for you to look that up and know I'll be waiting for the rest of eternity because ... (drum roll please) ... literally not a single one of us has disputed that. Not one.

Or to put that in other terms, no one disagrees with that. So can we please stop pretending that anyone does?

So personally I took the original question to mean: 'Why haven't the Seahawks fallen a lot farther as so many would-be experts predicted?' Now maybe I read too much into that-- maybe the OP doesn't see or believe in any drop off at all. If so, that would make the OP the delusional one; so your beef belongs rightfully with him, not us.

The reason why I assumed differently is because it's glaringly obvious that the team is not an elite or dominant, by just about any statistical or eyeball test you can mention.

My point has simply been that though the team has declined from the heights of a couple years ago, it hasn't been a disastrous decline-- the team is more competitive and better than I feared it would be. I'm glad about that, and why wouldn't I be?

So, far from being delusional, I'm neither celebrating nor catastrophizing the situation as it stands today. That's quite realistic, unlike hyperbolic claims one way or the other. Shrug.

 

[SteelersPride]

I would 100 percent always want my team to have a shot to win in the end rather than getting blown out, 100 percent of the time... Nothing pisses me off more than not being competitive...

U still lose

 

[seafandoghawk]

Seattle does not have the talent to win it all. Making the playoffs is a stretch. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I highly doubt it.

I have to agree, for whatever that may be worth.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

It never ceases to amaze me how people can contrive contentiousness when little or no disagreement actually exists. First , which Hawk fan in this discussion has denied or disputed, at all, That the Hawks have declined as compared to their dominant years? I'll wait for you to look that up and know I'll be waiting for the rest of eternity because ... (drum roll please) ... literally not a single one of us has disputed that. Not one.

Or to put that in other terms, no one disagrees with that. So can we please stop pretending that anyone does?

So personally I took the original question to mean: 'Why haven't the Seahawks fallen a lot farther as so many would-be experts predicted?' Now maybe I read too much into that-- maybe the OP doesn't see or believe in any drop off at all. If so, that would make the OP the delusional one; so your beef belongs rightfully with him, not us.

The reason why I assumed differently is because it's glaringly obvious that the team is not an elite or dominant, by just about any statistical or eyeball test you can mention.

My point has simply been that though the team has declined from the heights of a couple years ago, it hasn't been a disastrous decline-- the team is more competitive and better than I feared it would be. I'm glad about that, and why wouldn't I be?

So, far from being delusional, I'm neither celebrating nor catastrophizing the situation as it stands today. That's quite realistic, unlike hyperbolic claims one way or the other. Shrug.

Well that's a cool story. But why don't we just start by you pointing out where I called you delusional? Go ahead I'll wait.

To me it's seems to me you need to get your sensitivity meter calibrated.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

U still lose

Some people like participation trophies as well.

 

[SteelersPride]

Some people like participation trophies as well.

Lol I mean I’d rather be competitive sure, but if U lose 16 games by a total of 32 points your 0-16. And the 8-8 team can have a point differential of
-90

 

[SteelersPride]

Lol I mean I’d rather be competitive sure, but if U lose 16 games by a total of 32 points your 0-16. And the 8-8 team can have a point differential of
-90

Which is also
Why point differential is a valid metric for some and not for others

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Lol I mean I’d rather be competitive sure, but if U lose 16 games by a total of 32 points your 0-16. And the 8-8 team can have a point differential of
-90

Sometimes I'd rather get my ass whooped then losing a tightly contested battle. The close game stings more and provides the "just what if we did"...

Especially if there were controversial calls in said game

 

[richig07]

I think moral victories are for the weak and the disappointing.

My Broncos almost won on Tuesday in OT. But they didn't.

Yeah, but the team isn't taking a moral victory.

I'm gauging their performance against possibly the best team in football on the road to assess where they are at... and they were pretty damn good.

 

[richig07]

Which is also
Why point differential is a valid metric for some and not for others

Want me to beat my drum?

Point differential is without fail... every year... the greatest predictor of the two teams who will meet in the SB. It's outrageous how accurate it is.

 

[seafandoghawk]

Well that's a cool story. But why don't we just start by you pointing out where I called you delusional? Go ahead I'll wait.

To me it's seems to me you need to get your sensitivity meter calibrated.

I'll get right on that for ya'

 

[richig07]

Um no they didn't.... Both teams had 2 turnovers, Seattle had more yards, 276-261 ... Bears won the time of possession, also 20 1st downs to 17 ... what dominance are you talking about ?

Intellectually dishonest much? Holy shit.

They had 177 total yards going into the final drive where they went 99 yards, slowly using underneath routes against a prevent shell. In order to score a meaningless touchdown with 14 seconds remaining. Picking up 5 of those first downs in the process.

The Seahawks had 77 total yards at half and 100 yards in the 2nd half prior to the final two minutes when the outcome was decided.

An honest human being cannot have watched that game and thought it was closely fought. The entire game the announcers kept referring to how fortunate Seattle was to be as close as they were. The Bears led wire-to-wire

It was 24-10 and you scored a TD with 14 seconds left to give the illusion of it being a close game. The outcome was in doubt for about two seconds and the Bears erased it with a pick six IMMEDIATELY.

Stop. You were beaten in that game. Accept it like a man. Only a blind homer would assess that as an evenly played game which went down to the wire.

 

[richig07]

I know, right? Joe Buck referred to him and his young career.

I have this phenomenon sometimes with Russell too. I think it's because the other elite/big name guys have been around so long. Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Rivers... etc... compared to him. He still feels young.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

U still lose

But you don't know if you're gonna lose until it happens, if you're in the game, you might win, that's my point... When you're watching the game you don't know the result, at least your team battled...

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Intellectually dishonest much? Holy shit.

They had 177 total yards going into the final drive where they went 99 yards, slowly using underneath routes against a prevent shell. In order to score a meaningless touchdown with 14 seconds remaining. Picking up 5 of those first downs in the process.

The Seahawks had 77 total yards at half and 100 yards in the 2nd half prior to the final two minutes when the outcome was decided.

An honest human being cannot have watched that game and thought it was closely fought. The entire game the announcers kept referring to how fortunate Seattle was to be as close as they were. The Bears led wire-to-wire

It was 24-10 and you scored a TD with 14 seconds left to give the illusion of it being a close game. The outcome was in doubt for about two seconds and the Bears erased it with a pick six IMMEDIATELY.

Stop. You were beaten in that game. Accept it like a man. Only a blind homer would assess that as an evenly played game which went down to the wire.

Oh so I'm dishonest now, LMAO!!!! Keep your opinion to yourself bro, Bears didn't dominate shit, game was in striking range, Russ made a critical mistake late, game was in the balance... I"m done ....

 

[SteelersPride]

Want me to beat my drum?

Point differential is without fail... every year... the greatest predictor of the two teams who will meet in the SB. It's outrageous how accurate it is.

again rich, was not referring to you. again, stick to making fun of disabilities

 

[SteelersPride]

Sometimes I'd rather get my ass whooped then losing a tightly contested battle. The close game stings more and provides the "just what if we did"...

Especially if there were controversial calls in said game

dont disagree there at all

 

[broncosmitty]

Yeah, but the team isn't taking a moral victory.

I'm gauging their performance against possibly the best team in football on the road to assess where they are at... and they were pretty damn good.

Team might not be, people in this thread sure are.


People, like you.