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POLL Heisman So Far

Who do you think deserves the Heisman so far?

  • Tua Tagavailoa

  • Kyler Murray

  • Will Grier

  • Dwayne Haskins


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Across The Field

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You are in another realm of homer if you think Barrett was better than Trace McSorely last year. An that’s exactly what you are arguing with Haskins with much less stats/experience/wins.

An in case you didn’t know criticizing stats of other qbs because of who they played while praising the stats of your qb while ignoring who they played is the definition of hypocrisy.
QB1: 3,053 yards, 8.2 YPA, 35 TD, 9 INT, 160.1 rating, 798 yards rushing, 4.8 YPA, 12 TD

QB2: 3,570 yards, 8.3 YPA, 28 TD/10 INT, 153.7 rating, 491 yards rushing, 3.4 YPA, 11 TD

Which one was better, dipshit? And tell me exactly how choosing either of these puts someone "in another realm of homer".
 

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I think it's pretty obvious that you guys aren't going to agree on this subject. And you both are literally just saying the same things over again.
You're right, but he's the one that keeps bringing it up. It's an obsession. If not for him bringing it up, the conversation wouldn't be happening.
 

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I don't know that it was a 3rd, and it definitely didn't all only come on one busted play.

The last two TDs were amazing efforts by the WRs, but Haskins' throw to Victor was amazing considering the rush he was facing. Bosa is a true gamechanger as a defender, his absence was clearly missed. Jones and Young are monsters, but Cooper looked overmatched, and as we showed probably 8-9 times that game at least, our LBs/DBs are prone to missing easy tackles.

I don't recall him overthrowing too many guys that game. He had some, but not a lot. PSU was applying pressure all night and eventually, he adjusted. That's what elite QBs do.

I'm nervous as hell about the michigan game. I said after the ND game that it wasn't so much that michigan was bad but that ND was just damn good, and that seems to be the case. It is one of the most forgivable losses this season, considering it was on the road in the first game of the year with a QB who is brand new to that offense. I could see our game being just as close as 2016, honestly.

I was more than 1/3 if you just count the last two drives. Prior to going to the screen plays — Haskins was 15 for 31 for roughly 150 yards. The last two drives, he had roughly 120 yards on dump passes and went 6 for 8 with his only 2 incompletions on throws downfield.

It could have just been an off game, but OSU is on every week here and I watch them every week, unless UM is on at the same time. I just like to know what to look out for when we play. Prior to PSU — All I thought about was — our offense will not score enough to beat this team. After PSU — I liked our chances, because PSU looked like they were playing the same type of defense UM runs where pressure is coming every play.

It will be a great game to watch. Patterson looks to be getting comfortable and has started using his legs much more to pick up first downs too. If we can get back Tarik Black — it’s go a long way for our offense. UM has the same issue OSU had the last year or two — where the WR’s struggle to get open on anything but deep routes. Getting Black would give us our best WR back and DPJ and Collins would fall to the 2nd and 3rd option.
 

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Ok, and the gator fan also was the one who started things. Jesus, how did you not know that?

Was that last part supposed to prove a point? Dude, it's Friday and my day is pretty free. I'm sitting here doing some work waiting for our cleaning lady to get here, so I've got time. If you want to keep on bitching, I'm fine with continuing to call you out on it.
Man, checked back in before my next errand and two more full pages of bloviated bullshit already. Less than two hours as well.

Have you ever in your life simply admitted someone else was right and moved on?

You spun some nonsense in response to a post and got called out on it. Your sociopathic tendencies won't allow you to accept it and move on will it? I mean you spent at least 10 pages arguing with me about Meyer and calling me a hater when I was clearly more in agreement with you than against you. It just seems like you HAVE to make everyone into a hater or enemy and have no ability to just carry on a conversation without making it combative. The people around you in real life must be utterly miserable. Lighten up a bit. They will thank you for it.
 

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I was more than 1/3 if you just count the last two drives. Prior to going to the screen plays — Haskins was 15 for 31 for roughly 150 yards. The last two drives, he had roughly 120 yards on dump passes and went 6 for 8 with his only 2 incompletions on throws downfield.

It could have just been an off game, but OSU is on every week here and I watch them every week, unless UM is on at the same time. I just like to know what to look out for when we play. Prior to PSU — All I thought about was — our offense will not score enough to beat this team. After PSU — I liked our chances, because PSU looked like they were playing the same type of defense UM runs where pressure is coming every play.

It will be a great game to watch. Patterson looks to be getting comfortable and has started using his legs much more to pick up first downs too. If we can get back Tarik Black — it’s go a long way for our offense. UM has the same issue OSU had the last year or two — where the WR’s struggle to get open on anything but deep routes. Getting Black would give us our best WR back and DPJ and Collins would fall to the 2nd and 3rd option.
I doubt we end up throwing the screens as much against michigan. That was Penn State's weakness. Illinois even had a little success running them. Thankfully we run them about as well as anyone with our athletes at WR, but obviously Haskins can still throw downfield.

One thing I didn't like in that game was that we abandoned the run when they were bring the blitz. Dobbins and Webber only combined for 18 carries. I'd like to see that doubled against michigan. It helps immensely against blitz-happy teams. It would've helped alleviate the pressure a bit, I imagine.

I'm happy we won't be facing McSorely at least. I know Patterson is athletic, but he's not the runner McSorely can be when he has space. While your offense doesn't pose as big a threat as theirs, your defense obviously does. We have to tighten up on the dropped passes. If we do that, I think we can beat just about anyone.
 

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Man, checked back in before my next errand and two more full pages of bloviated bullshit already. Less than two hours as well.

Have you ever in your life simply admitted someone else was right and moved on?

You spun some nonsense in response to a post and got called out on it. Your sociopathic tendencies won't allow you to accept it and move on will it? I mean you spent at least 10 pages arguing with me about Meyer and calling me a hater when I was clearly more in agreement with you than against you. It just seems like you HAVE to make everyone into a hater or enemy and have no ability to just carry on a conversation without making it combative. The people around you in real life must be utterly miserable. Lighten up a bit. They will thank you for it.
The funniest thing about all of this is that you call me out for accusing you of being mad (which I didn't), while at the same time defending a Gator fan that was doing the exact same thing. What a chump you are. Piss off already.
 

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The funniest thing about all of this is that you call me out for accusing you of being mad (which I didn't), while at the same time defending a Gator fan that was doing the exact same thing. What a chump you are. Piss off already.
And you obviously can't see how mad you project yourself. :lol: Like literally every single day.

All the negs on posts just make you look like a feeble little bitch as well. You simply cannot carry on a normal conversation. It's all piss and vinegar and arguing for hundreds of posts about nothing. And the best part is you blame everyone else for carrying on these endless circle jerks. They cause it. You don't add to it at all, it's 100% everyone else.

Of course you are telling me to piss off. The truth here is entirely killing you. Go ahead and give me 100 more rainbows or face palms. I assure you it hurts you far more than those you keep using them on.

Grow up kid.
 

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And you obviously can't see how mad you project yourself. :lol: Like literally every single day.

All the negs on posts just make you look like a feeble little bitch as well. You simply cannot carry on a normal conversation. It's all piss and vinegar and arguing for hundreds of posts about nothing. And the best part is you blame everyone else for carrying on these endless circle jerks. They cause it. You don't add to it at all, it's 100% everyone else.

Of course you are telling me to piss off. The truth here is entirely killing you. Go ahead and give me 100 more rainbows or face palms. I assure you it hurts you far more than those you keep using them on.

Grow up kid.
I converse on here every day in a civil manner when it's not retards like you. I tell you to piss off because you're being a brat for no reason.
 

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More negs and more bullshit from someone entirely in denial.

You are well known for your ranting angry circle jerks. It is literally your calling card. There isn't a poster on this site that would disagree with that. Even from your own fan base I suspect.

Carry on. I'm sure you have at least 2-3 more pages in you before I get back from lunch. Don't disappoint now.
 

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You have 1/2 of the posts in this thread trying to convince that your boy is the best. LOL
That is extremely poor reading comprehension, even for an illiterate from Florida.
 

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I doubt we end up throwing the screens as much against michigan. That was Penn State's weakness. Illinois even had a little success running them. Thankfully we run them about as well as anyone with our athletes at WR, but obviously Haskins can still throw downfield.

One thing I didn't like in that game was that we abandoned the run when they were bring the blitz. Dobbins and Webber only combined for 18 carries. I'd like to see that doubled against michigan. It helps immensely against blitz-happy teams. It would've helped alleviate the pressure a bit, I imagine.

I'm happy we won't be facing McSorely at least. I know Patterson is athletic, but he's not the runner McSorely can be when he has space. While your offense doesn't pose as big a threat as theirs, your defense obviously does. We have to tighten up on the dropped passes. If we do that, I think we can beat just about anyone.

Yeah — it seems OSU has went to a more pass happy offense this year, maybe think Haskins will only be around a year, so use him as much as possible?

I will just be happy to not see JT Barrett running the damn ball. That is what killed us so much against OSU. Running QB’s in general hurt us.

Will be a fun game any way we look at it. I just hope UM doesn’t blow a game along the way to make the game mean more than just a spot in the B1G CG.

That being said — I think this year is a race for 2nd place. I don’t see anyone beating Bama. With a vertical passing attack to go with their OL and RB’s and TE’s. It isn’t even fair.
 

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Everyone acts like Ohio State has played this massively difficult schedule. They did play Penn State, but TCU isn't nearly what people thought, they're only 3-3. Every other team they've played is pitiful except for maybe Indiana. And Indiana is not good, they're just not pitiful.
Out of the group you listed Haskins has the most difficult schedule he's played the most top 50 defenses. TCU is actually ranked 15 in defense I believe Bama are the only 2 left of the 4 players that haven't played a top 50 D

Haskins is also ranked 3rd in passing with 1919 passing yards and 25 TDs.

And ike I said without Boas has been carrying OSU. This is why I'm surprised Tua is geting so many votes in this poll. Out of this list he's the easiest to replace.

As far as this list i've got Haskins then Grier.But.I also think its way early and you see an RB or other positional player. Like Jonathan Taylor etc in contention come Heisman time.
 
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