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Jim-ME Butler = Chemistry killer...I told you so.

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I get all of his individual accomplishments - but if I'm them I'm wondering what that has gotten them in terms of the overall goal of winning. That's my point.

Also, you really think Butler is a top 10-15 player right now?

It doesn't matter that Butler doesn't have rings. He has plenty to teach young players like Wiggins and Townes.

Butler may not have made the finals, but he's been to the playoffs multiple times and been in some pretty intense series. So, he at least has an idea of what it takes to get to that level.

Wiggins and Townes have less than no clue.

Yes, Butler is a top 10-15 player in the league.
 

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He has plenty to teach young players like Wiggins and Townes.


Here is the disconnect. Can he teach them something? Absolutely, did he go about it even close to the right way? Not a fucking chance!
 
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Honestly you didn't prove anything. Butler has not earned the right to get in their faces, it's ridiculous to think he has after 59 games and a first round exit.

lol I'm not even bothering to read the rest of your post after this tripe.

You realize that Jimmy Butler has played for more teams than just the Wolves, right?

Lebron hasn't even played 1 regular season game for the Lakers. I guess Lonzo, Ingram, Hart and Kuzma shouldn't listen to him either.

I mean, after all, what has he ever accomplished in a Lakers uniform?
 

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It doesn't matter that Butler doesn't have rings. He has plenty to teach young players like Wiggins and Townes.

Butler may not have made the finals, but he's been to the playoffs multiple times and been in some pretty intense series. So, he at least has an idea of what it takes to get to that level.

Wiggins and Townes have less than no clue.

Yes, Butler is a top 10-15 player in the league.
Clearly it does matter to Wiggins & KAT that Butler doesn't have rings, which goes back to my point of knowing your audience.
 

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Here is the disconnect. Can he teach them something? Absolutely, did he go about it even close to the right way? Not a fucking chance!

You have provided nothing to show that it's been like that from day 1. As I said before, this looks to me like he's been dealing with lackadaisical attitudes and Charmin level softness from Wiggins and KAT since he got to Minnesota and has become frustrated.

I don't particularly agree with how he has chosen to express his frustration, but I'm not in his position either.
 

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lol I'm not even bothering to read the rest of your post after this tripe.

You realize that Jimmy Butler has played for more teams than just the Wolves, right?

Lebron hasn't even played 1 regular season game for the Lakers. I guess Lonzo, Ingram, Hart and Kuzma shouldn't listen to him either.

I mean, after all, what has he ever accomplished in a Lakers uniform?


lolzzzz are you messing with me? You are way smarter than this. Who gives a fuck what he did in Chicago which again was NOTHING! You don't come to a team and start ripping the franchise guys for everyone to see, not sure how you don't understand that.

LeBron has won something in his life, holy fuck, did you fall down and hit your head today?
 

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Clearly it does matter to Wiggins & KAT that Butler doesn't have rings, which goes back to my point of knowing your audience.

Who gives a fuck what matters to Wiggins and KAT? What have they accomplished that a vet like Butler has to cater to them?

They are literally everything that is wrong with some of these young players today. They haven't accomplished shit. They don't know shit. But they don't think anyone can teach them anything.

They've got it all figured out.

Like I said, this is why the Wolves aren't going to be winning anything any time soon.
 

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lolzzzz are you messing with me? You are way smarter than this. Who gives a fuck what he did in Chicago which again was NOTHING! You don't come to a team and start ripping the franchise guys for everyone to see, not sure how you don't understand that.

LeBron has won something in his life, holy fuck, did you fall down and hit your head today?

This is too stupid to bother with. Enjoy your years of no titles and watching KAT and Wiggins never live up to their potential.
 

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Jimmy Butler destroys 1st stringers in practice. T-Wolves response? Yeah, let's not practice, we don't need it.

 

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Jimmy Butler destroys 1st stringers in practice. T-Wolves response? Yeah, let's not practice, we don't need it.


Timberwolves need to change their mascot.

This should do nicely:

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Jimmy Butler destroys 1st stringers in practice. T-Wolves response? Yeah, let's not practice, we don't need it.


They had to cancel practice. KAT and Wiggins are refusing to leave their safe spaces.
 

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This is too stupid to bother with. Enjoy your years of no titles and watching KAT and Wiggins never live up to their potential.



lolzzz at thinking Butler yelling at them makes them live up to their potential, I feel like I was just scolded by a four year old!
 

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So now they are liberals? :pound:

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lolzzz at thinking Butler yelling at them makes them live up to their potential, I feel like I was just scolded by a four year old!

That's funny, because I feel like I debating with one.

You keep focusing on one practice. Show me where this is anything other than Butler being frustrated because Townes and Wiggins have been lackadaisical and unwilling to do the work to get better.
 

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So now they are liberals? :pound:

I don't know if they're liberals. I give zero fucks about their politics.

But they're definitely pussies.

What self respecting players would allow Butler to kick their asses with 3rd stringers?
 

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lolzzz at thinking Butler yelling at them makes them live up to their potential, I feel like I was just scolded by a four year old!

 

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I don't know if they're liberals. I give zero fucks about their politics.

But they're definitely pussies.

What self respecting players would allow Butler to kick their asses with 3rd stringers?

If they didn't demand to run it back immediately and yell at JB back for all the shit he was talking, they're not competitors. Imagine doing that shit to Gary Payton, Charles Barkley, Reggie Miller, etc. No way that shit is happening on their watch if they took an L.
 

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That's funny, because I feel like I debating with one.

You keep focusing on one practice. Show me where this is anything other than Butler being frustrated because Townes and Wiggins have been lackadaisical and unwilling to do the work to get better.


Listen man, I never disagreed that Wiggins and Towns aren't lackadaisical there is no question they are. I am focusing on one practice because you just don't do this for all the world to see, a true leader a real fucking winner goes to them behind closed doors and says everything he can to motivate them to be better. Does he have reason to be frustrated? Absolutely! Does he have the right to do things they was he did, absolutely not! He at least to me looks like a whiny little bitch for doing this especially the way it was all clearly staged.
 

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If they didn't demand to run it back immediately and yell at JB back for all the shit he was talking, they're not competitors. Imagine doing that shit to Gary Payton, Charles Barkley, Reggie Miller, etc. No way that shit is happening on their watch if they took an L.

Exactly, there are stories about Kobe not letting teammates leave the gym if he lost. Didn't matter if it was a scrimmage, one on one, 3 point shooting contests...didn't matter. He'd keep running it back until he won.

In one of Barkley's first practices with the Suns, he clobbered Kevin Johnson, who was the most popular Suns player at the time just to see if his new teammates would react like he hoped they would.

They did, to the point that they almost had to cut the practice short. lol
 
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