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lebron23james
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Miami (4 years)
4 finals
2 championships
Cle (4 years)
4 finals
1 championship
La (4 years)....
4 finals
2 championships
Cle (4 years)
4 finals
1 championship
La (4 years)....
Let's compare apples and oranges while we're at it.
ok...
i like oranges, but apples are better imo...
So, are you saying his stint in Cleveland was a failure?
ok...
i like oranges, but apples are better imo...
Apples are way better than oranges tbh
So, are you saying his stint in Cleveland was a failure?
Considering the hype around them when they first joined together and that the Warriors weren't yet the Warriors we see now...
you could make a case that his stint in Miami was closer to a failure than his stint in Cleveland (not that 4 finals trips and 2 titles could ever truly be considered a failure lol).
The failure was in miami not cleveland. He over achieved in cleveland. With GSW taking one title was a success. But in the Miami days. No excuse.Yes 4 finals and 1 championship...huge failure!
The failure was in miami not cleveland. He over achieved in cleveland. With GSW taking one title was a success. But in the Miami days. No excuse.
DERK DERK DERK
As to the actual post:
I think it's pretty safe to say that Lebron is coming to a completely different situation with the Lakers than he went to with the Heat and the Cavs.
With the Heat, he was joining 2 established all stars, one of whom is a no doubt first ballot hall of famer and the other was at least a potential hall of famer. So championships were the expectation.
With the Cavs, he went to a team with an established young star who was/is one of the most exciting scorers in the game and another established all star. They are in the East, so making the finals at the least, was the expectation.
With the Lakers, he's joining a team with a young core that has a lot of potential, but who still have a lot to learn. Then there's the rather "eclectic" group of vets they signed with him.
This year will be about the development of the kids and meshing their games with Lebron's and vice versa. Barring some sort of blockbuster trade, making the playoffs and getting to the 2nd round should be this teams ceiling for this year.
This off-season, the Lakers will be looking to add another FA and the kids will be expected to have developed over the course of the season and continue that development over the off-season. Next year, I expect the pressure to get to, at least the WCF, will increase greatly. Especially if they land a top FA.
There has been a lot of talk about lebron declining, but that has been yet to be seen. He actually sometimes seems to get better.
How the next 4 years play out for the lakers will really depend on how lebron holds up. He has had a lot of minutes. I think his dropoff is going to be pretty huge at some point but who knows.
I also think that mid season the lakers will make lot of changes. Lebron always says he wants to develop the young guys take it slow, but once they start losing he starts making passive aggressive comments and forcing trades. He didn't give the young guys in cle much time even though he said that in his letter lol
Derk derkity derk dirk. He played out of his mind that year. Son of a bitchI was being sarcastic lol
The only Miami failure i would say was losing to Dallas. Cavs didn't get to play an easy team like Dallas. Dallas is the only bad spot on Lebrons resume imo
it warms my heart to see a Lakers fan say- with the best player in the league- that "making the playoffs and getting to the 2nd round should be this teams ceiling for this year".As to the actual post:
I think it's pretty safe to say that Lebron is coming to a completely different situation with the Lakers than he went to with the Heat and the Cavs.
With the Heat, he was joining 2 established all stars, one of whom is a no doubt first ballot hall of famer and the other was at least a potential hall of famer. So championships were the expectation.
With the Cavs, he went to a team with an established young star who was/is one of the most exciting scorers in the game and another established all star. They are in the East, so making the finals at the least, was the expectation.
With the Lakers, he's joining a team with a young core that has a lot of potential, but who still have a lot to learn. Then there's the rather "eclectic" group of vets they signed with him.
This year will be about the development of the kids and meshing their games with Lebron's and vice versa. Barring some sort of blockbuster trade, making the playoffs and getting to the 2nd round should be this teams ceiling for this year.
This off-season, the Lakers will be looking to add another FA and the kids will be expected to have developed over the course of the season and continue that development over the off-season. Next year, I expect the pressure to get to, at least the WCF, will increase greatly. Especially if they land a top FA.
it warms my heart to see a Lakers fan say- with the best player in the league- that "making the playoffs and getting to the 2nd round should be this teams ceiling for this year".
I couldnt imagine ever saying any season in the prime of LeBron James - would have a ceiling of the 2nd round---
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