politics thread

[Stymietee]

wake up ? those 3 stations you mentioned had a 92% to 8% negative story on perisdent trump . no conservative run outfit would do that against their guy . cnn abc cbs nbc cnbc msnbc headline news npr , ap , the NYT WAPO huffington post , media matters and virtually any major newspaper run left wing stuff

dont believe me take my challenge like shark and ebb didnt do

These are NOT stations, they are Broadcasting companies, Broadcasting companies owns and are affiliated with stations. Admit it man, the MSM that you rail against are dominated by right wing ownership. These are Facts!!

People who buy into the "Liberal Mainstream Media" nonsense are being played!! I know that's it's difficult to realize this, but to me if there's anyone on this board who able to do so it's you! Yep, I have that much respect!!

 

[Sharkinva]

Wouldn't it be great if we could build a wall across the middle of the US south to north. Those who appose Trump and his policies to the west. Open borders on the west side only. All will be welcome. Chicago goes to the west side since murders are not a problem obviously on the left wing networks that never mention em and will also move to the west. All of hollywood will stay put on west side. Law enforcement officers will be selected after migration (only if needed.. people will decide on that) West side president and all officials will be selected after migration as well with all votes from all people counted... even dead people. Entire west region will be sanctuaried. Socialism will be the chosen government for all people in west region. West region anthem will be some terrible rap song written by Em and Em (the only white person who can say the N word and get away with it). Guns will only be permitted only to those who obtain illegally. Security fences and alarms will be outlawed because not needed since everyone is a friend. Political correctness will be forced fed to all the children entering school.

East region will have laws and order. The constitution will be upheld. The flag will fly. American history will be taught in schools. Murderers and drug pushers will be shot upon conviction until murders and drugs are non-existent. All religion is honored and none will be disrespected. Political correctness will not be tolerated. Anyone offended by the slightest thing will be sent to west region immediately.

Would be a fun experiment.

You do realize, the majority of Americans still are not in favor of the wall right?? You would think after the President explaining in detain how the Mexicans are bound and determined to destroy us, and how hey are only here to r*pe and kill our women, that would change.

 

[gkekoa]

Just like you should start a gofundme for that wall... if you start now, you should have that $70B+ in no time. With or without the wall, America as we know it is going to change, and I tend to think for the better.

The difference is...we all can use the wall. You simply can’t get beyond race.

 

[Stymietee]

Wouldn't it be great if we could build a wall across the middle of the US south to north. Those who appose Trump and his policies to the west. Open borders on the west side only. All will be welcome. Chicago goes to the west side since murders are not a problem obviously on the left wing networks that never mention em and will also move to the west. All of hollywood will stay put on west side. Law enforcement officers will be selected after migration (only if needed.. people will decide on that) West side president and all officials will be selected after migration as well with all votes from all people counted... even dead people. Entire west region will be sanctuaried. Socialism will be the chosen government for all people in west region. West region anthem will be some terrible rap song written by Em and Em (the only white person who can say the N word and get away with it). Guns will only be permitted only to those who obtain illegally. Security fences and alarms will be outlawed because not needed since everyone is a friend. Political correctness will be forced fed to all the children entering school.

East region will have laws and order. The constitution will be upheld. The flag will fly. American history will be taught in schools. Murderers and drug pushers will be shot upon conviction until murders and drugs are non-existent. All religion is honored and none will be disrespected. Political correctness will not be tolerated. Anyone offended by the slightest thing will be sent to west region immediately.

Would be a fun experiment.

It's already being done... Most of the center of the country, where there's far fewer people per mile are conservatives. The more populous parts of the country (East and West Coast) are Progressives. All that has to be done is, a movement of conservatives in the more populous states into the center of the country and a similar movement of progressives into the east or west coast.

It is interesting that a state like California which has a population of 39.54 million, and a state like Montana population 1.05 million each gets two senators! I understand why it's done, but the unfairness created because of this attempt to be fair is astounding!

 

[Sharkinva]

The difference is...we all can use the wall. You simply can’t get beyond race.

Me and apparently about 66% of the country. You dont want to pay for social programs, I get it. I dont want my tax dollars spent on a wall. And while you think its just race, I think its more about the soul of the country and where we are headed as a nation. Personally Im not feeling going backwards.

 

[gkekoa]

Me and apparently about 66% of the country. You dont want to pay for social programs, I get it. I dont want my tax dollars spent on a wall. And while you think its just race, I think its more about the soul of the country and where we are headed as a nation. Personally Im not feeling going backwards.

Actually, going by everything you say...it is 100% race.

 

[Sharkinva]

Actually, going by everything you say...it is 100% race.

So is the wall and the immigration policies you support.. so I guess we are even.

 

[Stymietee]

The difference is...we all can use the wall. You simply can’t get beyond race.

Geeez, people, there already is a wall there in places and fencing in others. private lands and waterways will prevent either from being build in places. Update what's there, of course!, but selling this as if none exists is ridiculous!

SEE: Or do a quick search for yourselves (Southern border wall then hit images)

 

[Stymietee]

wake up ? those 3 stations you mentioned had a 92% to 8% negative story on perisdent trump . no conservative run outfit would do that against their guy . cnn abc cbs nbc cnbc msnbc headline news npr , ap , the NYT WAPO huffington post , media matters and virtually any major newspaper run left wing stuff

dont believe me take my challenge like shark and ebb didnt do

I don't believe that I was on board when you offered that challenge. Can you either repost it or refer me to the post in which it was made? Thanks!

 

[gkekoa]

So is the wall and the immigration policies you support.. so I guess we are even.

Of course I support a wall and immigration policies. I believe Americans need to be put first...white, black, Hispanic, and Asian Americans.

 

[Stymietee]

Changing the direction of this conversation he asks..."why is there an exception clause to the 13th amendment of the constitution, if there was no intent to use it?" Just wondering!

 

[Sharkinva]

Changing the direction of this conversation he asks..."why is there an exception clause to the 13th amendment of the constitution, if there was no intent to use it?" Just wondering!

Because it has been used.

Chain Gangs come to mind.

 

[Sharkinva]

Of course I support a wall and immigration policies. I believe Americans need to be put first...white, black, Hispanic, and Asian Americans.

While its great to read you say that, I feel safe in saying not all have such altruistic motives. And I feel real safe in saying some currently in power would prefer less of those OTHERS be considered or allowed to become Americans.

 

[Stymietee]

Because it has been used.

Chain Gangs come to mind.

P.I.C (Prison Industrial Complex) or as I prefer to call it America's largest "make work" program.

 

[Sharkinva]

P.I.C (Prison Industrial Complex) or as I prefer to call it America's largest "make work" program.

Agreed. Add in the concept of for profit prisons, and you wonder why America has the largest prison population by far. And in a twist of Art imitating life, In the season finale of Orange is the new black, they finally passed prison reform and half the inmates ended up getting released. The facility admin asks her boss, well what are we going to do now. With a straight face she answers.. we are going to open three new immigrant detention centers.

 

[gkekoa]

Changing the direction of this conversation he asks..."why is there an exception clause to the 13th amendment of the constitution, if there was no intent to use it?" Just wondering!

To allow inmates to actually do something for the lives we allow them to keep.

 

[gkekoa]

While its great to read you say that, I feel safe in saying not all have such altruistic motives. And I feel real safe in saying some currently in power would prefer less of those OTHERS be considered or allowed to become Americans.

An overwhelming majority have that opinion.

I would like to see less of those OTHERS, meaning any foreigner, be considered or allowed to become US citizens. You believe Trump is worried about race...I bet he is more worried about crime.

 

[Sharkinva]

An overwhelming majority have that opinion.

I would like to see less of those OTHERS, meaning any foreigner, be considered or allowed to become US citizens. You believe Trump is worried about race...I bet he is more worried about crime.

The reality is, he is using isolated Crimes to push a racist agenda. He pushed for a national outcry over the Tibbits girl, and had the audacity to tweet this about South Africa

I have asked Secretary of State @SecPompeo to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

Nevermind that there is no large scale killing of white Farmers. He is yet again intentionally trying to stir up white fear.. cause but for Trump this could happen in America after all.

Yet not a fucking peep about the white guy who killed his wife and two daughters because he had a side piece.

 

[Sharkinva]

An overwhelming majority have that opinion.

I would like to see less of those OTHERS, meaning any foreigner, be considered or allowed to become US citizens. You believe Trump is worried about race...I bet he is more worried about crime.

Secondary note on this line of logic. If he is so intent on crime, why has he not commented or made any types of push to deal with gun violence?? There have been more than 150 mass shootings this year. And aside from the News Paper shooting, he has been mostly silent.

Let an Illegal Immigrant kill a white Girl, it becomes prime material for his rallies.

Let some one go Rambo, and nary a peep. You think maybe because coming out and even hinting we need to do something about gun violence, which might lead to a talk about gun control would be a non starter for a part of his base??

 

[Stymietee]

To allow inmates to actually do something for the lives we allow them to keep.

You're going to have to be a bit more succinct about this.

Most inmates are in as low level crime offenders, we would ordinarily extinguish lives for this? The "war" on drugs has been a abject failure, and a destructive force against families, is this really the price we want to pay to employ others?

I remember some time ago, when you and @Sharkinva debated the merits on whether or not you would change anything in the history of this country that lead to the way the country is now. You both agreed that you wouldn't and in that moment lost me. I see no difference in saying that an supporting a system that destroys human capital.