The Americans

[Godstree]

Only 2 episodes left. They gotta be found out, right? And Andrea has to be a Russian spy, but how will that be revealed?

She stops (kills) FBI agent, Stan, who finally figured it out.

 

[calsnowskier]

She stops (kills) FBI agent, Stan, who finally figured it out.

I don’t see Stan dying. At least not at Elizabeth’s hand. Maybe Andrea kills him because she figures out that he is onto Phil and Liz. That may be the final straw that causes them to flip??

 

[DragonfromTO]

I don't know how this show doesn't connect with more people. Maybe everyone just has better parents and a better marriage than I had? Anyways, I can't wait to see what happens to these ding dongs but I'm also really gonna miss them when this finishes.

 

[Godstree]

She stops (kills) FBI agent, Stan, who finally figured it out.

I can see it happening. She has been doing a lot killing here lately.

 

[Wazmankg]

It looks as if Phillip & Elizabeth are back on the same team now. For awhile it looked as if we might be headed for one of them taking the other out somehow. The only thing I'm having trouble with is Paige's eagerness to follow her parents' spy/assassin career path. It just doesn't ring true to me. It's been a terrific series, though, and I'll miss it when it's gone.

 

[DragonfromTO]

I'm sad that it's ending but can't wait to see how it ends.

 

[wildturkey]

You know what? I kinda think they are gonna get out of it. Stan will finally realize it but it'll be too late

 

[Godstree]

You know what? I kinda think they are gonna get out of it. Stan will finally realize it but it'll be too late

Interesting how they get out of it. They have two kids that are easy pickings for the FBI, especially since Stan already know everything about the boy.

 

[DragonfromTO]

I had an idea for the ending that I thought was kinda good but then I realized it has a fatal flaw that makes it impossible.

I was thinking it would be wild if Elizabeth gets back to Russia safely (Philip is dead, seems likely and also helps this scenario) and thinks she's OK and then Oleg's father pulls one last string before dying and the Russians trade Elizabeth to the US for Oleg.

The fatal problem with this of course is that they're almost certainly not fleeing to Russia.

 

[calsnowskier]

I had an idea for the ending that I thought was kinda good but then I realized it has a fatal flaw that makes it impossible.

I was thinking it would be wild if Elizabeth gets back to Russia safely (Philip is dead, seems likely and also helps this scenario) and thinks she's OK and then Oleg's father pulls one last string before dying and the Russians trade Elizabeth to the US for Oleg.

The fatal problem with this of course is that they're almost certainly not fleeing to Russia.

They just saved Gorby from a coup. Unless they run into Putin, they should be good to go in Russia.

 

[DragonfromTO]

They just saved Gorby from a coup. Unless they run into Putin, they should be good to go in Russia.

Spoiler

Is that message gonna make it back though? And even if it does I doubt that the plan is to head back there, so there probably has to be some further twist where they end up there. And are the "good guys" really gonna trade Oleg for her rather than an American citizen being held by the USSR? That seemed a little bit off to me as well.
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It's possible but I think there are some obstacles.

Do I need to cover those for the 5 people here that watch the show? I guess I might as well.

 

[calsnowskier]

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Is that message gonna make it back though? And even if it does I doubt that the plan is to head back there, so there probably has to be some further twist where they end up there. And are the "good guys" really gonna trade Oleg for her rather than an American citizen being held by the USSR? That seemed a little bit off to me as well.
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It's possible but I think there are some obstacles.

Do I need to cover those for the 5 people here that watch the show? I guess I might as well.

I don’t really endorse your ending, I was just pointing out that they probably would be welcomed back.

I think they will end up staying and cutting a deal to allow Page and Henry to stay in return for spilling the beans on all their activities.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I don’t really endorse your ending, I was just pointing out that they probably would be welcomed back.

I think they will end up staying and cutting a deal to allow Page and Henry to stay in return for spilling the beans on all their activities.

that Argument with Paige and Elizabeth at the end of last weeks episode is all telling IMO... Elizabeth was already questioning the center, so much so that she disobeyed a direct order... but the fight showed Elizabeth her true colours... and I think she realized that she was being used in more ways than one...

I agree that the kids will stay, but I see Elizabeth falling on the sword for Phillip and the kids...

 

[calsnowskier]

that Argument with Paige and Elizabeth at the end of last weeks episode is all telling IMO... Elizabeth was already questioning the center, so much so that she disobeyed a direct order... but the fight showed Elizabeth her true colours... and I think she realized that she was being used in more ways than one...

I agree that the kids will stay, but I see Elizabeth falling on the sword for Phillip and the kids...

I can see that.

But in the flashback scenes, we saw that Elizabeth has been a robot since the beginning (actually, kinda similar to Paige). Her protecting the emissary was really the first time in her life she ever thought and acted for herself. And THAT was thanks to the argument she had with Philip in the previous episode.

We know that P and E get together with Paige in the finale. A scene was shown with them in the car together, apparently heading up to get Henry. No way they get to Henry, though. Too long a drive with Stan hot on their trail.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I can see that.

But in the flashback scenes, we saw that Elizabeth has been a robot since the beginning (actually, kinda similar to Paige). Her protecting the emissary was really the first time in her life she ever thought and acted for herself. And THAT was thanks to the argument she had with Philip in the previous episode.

We know that P and E get together with Paige in the finale. A scene was shown with them in the car together, apparently heading up to get Henry. No way they get to Henry, though. Too long a drive with Stan hot on their trail.

but wasn't the last line of the flashback the other women telling Elizabeth to never lose who she is?? that made me think that the flashbacks were showing that she was so into this that she never lived her life and she never was her true self...

 

[calsnowskier]

but wasn't the last line of the flashback the other women telling Elizabeth to never lose who she is?? that made me think that the flashbacks were showing that she was so into this that she never lived her life and she never was her true self...

You may be right, but I took the line as a bit of a BS platitude. Elizabeth grew up in complete poverty and her only concern was eating and getting the job done.

She never fully connected with Philip. She saw Paige as nothing but a tool. She was able to “trade” Henry in order to have unfettered access to Paige.

Philip was a straight-up killa as a kid, but he was softened by his love for Elizabeth, Paige and Henry. He saw that Paige was another Elizabeth, so he focused on keeping Henry “out of the life”. Ultimately, his humanity was what finally cracked Elizabeth, and the part of Philip in Paige (her ability to actually have feelings for people) will be the final straw.

I can see Elizabeth making some kind of grand sacrifice to save at least Henry, but probably the whole family.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

You may be right, but I took the line as a bit of a BS platitude. Elizabeth grew up in complete poverty and her only concern was eating and getting the job done.

She never fully connected with Philip. She saw Paige as nothing but a tool. She was able to “trade” Henry in order to have unfettered access to Paige.

Philip was a straight-up killa as a kid, but he was softened by his love for Elizabeth, Paige and Henry. He saw that Paige was another Elizabeth, so he focused on keeping Henry “out of the life”. Ultimately, his humanity was what finally cracked Elizabeth, and the part of Philip in Paige (her ability to actually have feelings for people) will be the final straw.

I can see Elizabeth making some kind of grand sacrifice to save at least Henry, but probably the whole family.

Henry is safe IMO... no matter what... he might not even be in the final... I feel like his role in this show was to convince Stan that the Jennings were an all American family, and then later on help him figure out they are not... It was his innocence... and stan knows Henry is innocent...

that fight between Paige and Elizabeth, also made Paige ultimately quit(whether they show it or not)... and she never did anything too bad anyway... so it is all about Elizabeth and phillip...

Maybe Paige helps Stan get Elizabeth... IDK... but I have no doubt that Paige and Henry are going to be safe at the end...

 

[wildturkey]

Holy shit, that finale was amazing. Seriously one of the best series finales OF ALL TIME. That garage scene was FANTASTIC. If everyone involved doesn't win Emmys, it will be a crime against humanity.

Spoiler

Looks like my hunch was right. Everyone made it out alive. And its crazy, yet fitting, that Stan finally outs them after all these years but lets them go. And that phone call with Henry, devastating. Then that scene when the train pulls off and they see Paige got off. WOW. Just wow. What a show.

 

[DragonfromTO]

Holy shit, that finale was amazing. Seriously one of the best series finales OF ALL TIME. That garage scene was FANTASTIC. If everyone involved doesn't win Emmys, it will be a crime against humanity.

Spoiler

Looks like my hunch was right. Everyone made it out alive. And its crazy, yet fitting, that Stan finally outs them after all these years but lets them go. And that phone call with Henry, devastating. Then that scene when the train pulls off and they see Paige got off. WOW. Just wow. What a show.

Philip told Henry "be yourself" and didn't realize Paige was the one who was hearing his message.

 

[calsnowskier]

The Garage scene was amazing. One of the most stressful scenes in tv history, possibly.

But the very end was disappointing. But maybe appropriate as well. They realize they were fighting against happiness and joy and fighting for trash and bleariness. And realizing that they still would have done it over because they DID have big adventure and enjoyed their lives instead of the drab existences they would have had otherwise.