Also about Kyries next contract.
Much better chance making an all NBA team if he’s top dog.
Didn't even think of that. Good point.
Also about Kyries next contract.
Much better chance making an all NBA team if he’s top dog.
Talk is cheap.
Eyes don’t lie.
Lebron does like some drama, but that's not why Kyrie left. Before Lebron decided to return, the Cavs were Kyrie's team and they were going to build around him.
When Lebron returned, that went out the window. Kyrie felt it was time for him to lead a team and didn't want to wait on Lebron to retire or decline.
I would expect you to say that. Don't take this the wrong way because I'm not looking to start anything & I'm not being my usual smartass self right now but it seems like whatever he does it'll always be an issue w/ you. Which is fine. Everyone has a player or 2 they don't like.
LeBron was going to give him the throne?
#nothappening
Anyone remember hearing about this? Was this just Kyrie's camp trying to spin things or was it true?
Cavs reportedly tried to trade Kyrie Irving before he asked out of Cleveland
Kyrie also feels LeBron's camp orchestrated Irving trade talks with the Suns: 'They didn't want me there'
Ever since the shocking news broke that Kyrie Irving wanted to part ways with the Cavaliers, the narrative coming out of Cleveland is that the less-than-happy star guard simply one day decided to request a trade. It was a shocking development -- especially to everyone outside of the organization.
However, according to a tidbit from Jackie MacMullan's new article about Irving, it was actually the Cavs who were the first to look into trading Irving. Via ESPN:
For many, the swap from the Cavaliers to the Celtics last August was vexing. Irving was a champion on a contending franchise with a transcendent star, LeBron James. Who walks away from that?
What they didn't know was Cleveland had explored trading Kyrie in June, long before he asked out, a fact conveniently omitted when word of his demand leaked. Irving made the decision to remain silent while the details of his request were, in his word, "distorted."
"I didn't feel the need to say anything because I knew the truth, and so did they," he says. "So it didn't matter what others said."
Still, for a split second, Irving winces, as though someone has pricked him with a pin.
"They didn't want me there," he says.
Teams need to do their due diligence and explore every opportunity to make their team better, but it's still surprising that the Cavs were seeking out a trade involving Irving. What's more interesting is that Irving's convinced LeBron James' camp was pulling the strings on those talks.
In mid-June, shortly before Griffin left, team and league sources confirm, the Cavs explored a three-way deal with Phoenix and Indiana that would have shipped Irving and Frye to the Suns and brought Eric Bledsoe and Paul George to Cleveland. The Suns resisted, unwilling to part with their No. 4 pick, which they planned to use to draft Josh Jackson.
No formal offer was made by any of the teams, but news of this potential transaction stung Irving, who, sources close to him say, became convinced that LeBron's camp, which also represents Bledsoe, orchestrated the trade talks.
Cavs reportedly tried to trade Kyrie Irving before he asked out of Cleveland
I have 0 issue with James the player.
My opinion is that he wants to control, as much as he can, what happens on the court.
Further, he should.
He’s like the Tom Brady of the NBA.
To counter, other then those articles, what makes you he’s ready or willing to defer to anyone?
Lebron does like some drama, but that's not why Kyrie left. Before Lebron decided to return, the Cavs were Kyrie's team and they were going to build around him.
When Lebron returned, that went out the window. Kyrie felt it was time for him to lead a team and didn't want to wait on Lebron to retire or decline.
Anyone remember hearing about this? Was this just Kyrie's camp trying to spin things or was it true?
Cavs reportedly tried to trade Kyrie Irving before he asked out of Cleveland
Kyrie also feels LeBron's camp orchestrated Irving trade talks with the Suns: 'They didn't want me there'
Ever since the shocking news broke that Kyrie Irving wanted to part ways with the Cavaliers, the narrative coming out of Cleveland is that the less-than-happy star guard simply one day decided to request a trade. It was a shocking development -- especially to everyone outside of the organization.
However, according to a tidbit from Jackie MacMullan's new article about Irving, it was actually the Cavs who were the first to look into trading Irving. Via ESPN:
For many, the swap from the Cavaliers to the Celtics last August was vexing. Irving was a champion on a contending franchise with a transcendent star, LeBron James. Who walks away from that?
What they didn't know was Cleveland had explored trading Kyrie in June, long before he asked out, a fact conveniently omitted when word of his demand leaked. Irving made the decision to remain silent while the details of his request were, in his word, "distorted."
"I didn't feel the need to say anything because I knew the truth, and so did they," he says. "So it didn't matter what others said."
Still, for a split second, Irving winces, as though someone has pricked him with a pin.
"They didn't want me there," he says.
Teams need to do their due diligence and explore every opportunity to make their team better, but it's still surprising that the Cavs were seeking out a trade involving Irving. What's more interesting is that Irving's convinced LeBron James' camp was pulling the strings on those talks.
In mid-June, shortly before Griffin left, team and league sources confirm, the Cavs explored a three-way deal with Phoenix and Indiana that would have shipped Irving and Frye to the Suns and brought Eric Bledsoe and Paul George to Cleveland. The Suns resisted, unwilling to part with their No. 4 pick, which they planned to use to draft Josh Jackson.
No formal offer was made by any of the teams, but news of this potential transaction stung Irving, who, sources close to him say, became convinced that LeBron's camp, which also represents Bledsoe, orchestrated the trade talks.
Cavs reportedly tried to trade Kyrie Irving before he asked out of Cleveland
I never said he was ready or willing to do anything. You say you have 0 issues w/ him as a player but in the comment I quoted of yours you said talk is cheap, eyes don't lie.
So here's my question to you. What makes you think he didn't mean what he said? He's know he's on the last leg of his career. It would only be in his best interest to have a teammate that can be the guy. And this series against the Celtics so far is proof LeBron can't beat a good/great team by himself.
LeBron's made an ass outta himself before. The dumb Decision being televised. The not 5, not 6, not 7 comment. Him saying he was going to keep a mental note of all those that disrespected him after the welcome party in Miami. How he left the Heat. At this point in his career you can always play the what if card, like I did. But he loves attention so him being 2nd guessed about almost anything isn't an unfair thing to do.
It's not hard to see.. GM Lebron was looking at what they could get for Kyrie. What's funny is Lebron wouldn't have a ring as a Cav if is wasn't for Kyrie.
This would be epic. Hope the Celtics sweep the Cavs without Kyrie.
Ohhh the karma
Ever since the shocking news broke that Kyrie Irving wanted to part ways with the Cavaliers, the narrative coming out of Cleveland is that the less-than-happy star guard simply one day decided to request a trade. It was a shocking development -- especially to everyone outside of the organization.
However, according to a tidbit from Jackie MacMullan's new article about Irving, it was actually the Cavs who were the first to look into trading Irving. Via ESPN:
For many, the swap from the Cavaliers to the Celtics last August was vexing. Irving was a champion on a contending franchise with a transcendent star, LeBron James. Who walks away from that?
What they didn't know was Cleveland had explored trading Kyrie in June, long before he asked out, a fact conveniently omitted when word of his demand leaked. Irving made the decision to remain silent while the details of his request were, in his word, "distorted."
"I didn't feel the need to say anything because I knew the truth, and so did they," he says. "So it didn't matter what others said."
Still, for a split second, Irving winces, as though someone has pricked him with a pin.
"They didn't want me there," he says.
Honestly, other then hoping James loses, I have no other lingering issues with him.
I'm always going to make jokes, but that's just me.
He's grown up a lot over the last 15 years, I love his charity work, so in general I say forgive and forget.
Anyway, as far as why I don't believe him:
"I’m not promising a championship. I know how hard that is to deliver. We’re not ready right now. No way. Of course, I want to win next year, but I’m realistic. It will be a long process, much longer than it was in 2010. My patience will get tested. I know that. I’m going into a situation with a young team and a new coach. I will be the old head. But I get a thrill out of bringing a group together and helping them reach a place they didn’t know they could go. I see myself as a mentor now and I’m excited to lead some of these talented young guys. I think I can help Kyrie Irving become one of the best point guards in our league. I think I can help elevate Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters. And I can’t wait to reunite with Anderson Varejao, one of my favorite teammates."
How's that for a reason?
Four years ago he said he was 'going to mentor and let Kyrie play point guard.
How did that go?
You think this is true?
"I’ve met with Dan, face-to-face, man-to-man. We’ve talked it out. Everybody makes mistakes. I’ve made mistakes as well. Who am I to hold a grudge? "
Or this (at the time)?
"I’m doing this essay because I want an opportunity to explain myself uninterrupted. I don’t want anyone thinking: He and Erik Spoelstra didn’t get along. … He and Riles didn’t get along. … The Heat couldn’t put the right team together. That’s absolutely not true."
No, man I am still friends with C-Rock on Face book - He is a good friend and loves God - nothing wrong with some friendly competitionno worries TLF, I am as uncmfortable as you are to hear this...........................your are the enemy................