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Can we end the Dak Wentz debate now?

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This debate is a lot closer to its beginning than to its end.
 

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Tried to tell the Boys fans this a few weeks ago. Dak is very good but he has also enjoyed a fantastic situation. Once the parts change a bit and he no longer has all that help, well we see the results.
 

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The real question: is Dak the worst quarterback in the division? Looks like the answer is probably yes.
 

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Guess you missed the Giants game last night huh?

Yup. Why would I watch that dreck? Eli is a 2-time Super Bowl winning quarterback with comparable numbers to Dak this year. Presumption goes to Eli for now.
 

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Eli has been playing like trash all year. Two years actually. He has been constantly bailed out by Beckham who can win a game by himself. I'm a ring guy too but you can't overlook all of his flaws based only on 2 games.
 

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Why debate it really ...people still say Brady is system QB. (I still don't know what the fuck that is)

Is Wentz going to be a delayed version of Nick Foles? No.
Is the way Dak has played the last several games who he really is ..No.


I watch football & stocks. And I would gladly lay down some money on some stocks but not a single dime
would I wager on predicting the success or failure of an NFL QB.



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Eli has been playing like trash all year. Two years actually. He has been constantly bailed out by Beckham who can win a game by himself. I'm a ring guy too but you can't overlook all of his flaws based only on 2 games.

And yet, his numbers aren't far off from Dak's.

Elisha: 2411 yards, 14 TD, 7 INT, 219 yards/game, 62.5 C%, 5.26 ANY/A, 84.1 rating
Rayne: 2318 yards, 16 TD, 9 INT, 211 yards/game, 63.7 C%, 5.66 ANY/A, 87.6 rating
 

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The real question: is Dak the worst quarterback in the division? Looks like the answer is probably yes.
lol....3 games tells this tale

you sir, remain an idiot just poking a stick

much left to see in these careers, but you go ahead a stick that chest out. iT'S NOT LIKE PHILLY FANS HAVEN'T DONE THAT SHIT MANY TIMES BEFORE, only to look stupid in the end
 

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Why debate it really ...people still say Brady is system QB. (I still don't know what the fuck that is)

Is Wentz going to be a delayed version of Nick Foles? No.
Is the way Dak has played the last several games who he really is ..No.


I watch football & stocks. And I would gladly lay down some money on some stocks but not a single dime
would I wager on predicting the success or failure of an NFL QB.



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Wentz is obviously better than foles. I am going to say that wentz has a better team around him than last season. Wentz is no peyton manning or brady and that wI'll be proven during the post season

As far as dak goes he needs zeke. Without question dak is not a top tier qb and has been exposed as such. Zeke has proven by his absence that he is that good. Zeke is an elite player and no defence wants to see him in the game. Shut zeke down and look forward to next season.
 

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And yet, his numbers aren't far off from Dak's.

Elisha: 2411 yards, 14 TD, 7 INT, 219 yards/game, 62.5 C%, 5.26 ANY/A, 84.1 rating
Rayne: 2318 yards, 16 TD, 9 INT, 211 yards/game, 63.7 C%, 5.66 ANY/A, 87.6 rating

I am aware of that. Stats don't show how many plays Dak makes with his feet.

Eli has been terrible for the last 2 years. He has been very up and down his entire career. He is hanging his hat on 2 SB runs and that's not enough to overlook all his other issues. He just isn't that good.
 

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SO TRUE
only shitheads define a career through their cherry picked sample size.

You are not paying attention. The debate, at least the one I was involved in, centered on how Dak was in a very good situation so naturally it's easier to play well. I openly asked how he would do once the RB and OL were different. And we are seeing the results, you you really can't argue that.
 

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Tried to tell the Boys fans this a few weeks ago. Dak is very good but he has also enjoyed a fantastic situation. Once the parts change a bit and he no longer has all that help, well we see the results.
I think dak lost confidence after the Falcons hit him in the backside on every drop back. He is now forcing passes without zeke. Dak looKS like a young qb that is a little gun shy. He made terrible reads and throws yesterday.
 

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lol....3 games tells this tale

you sir, remain an idiot just poking a stick

much left to see in these careers, but you go ahead a stick that chest out. iT'S NOT LIKE PHILLY FANS HAVEN'T DONE THAT SHIT MANY TIMES BEFORE, only to look stupid in the end

Last five games, 2 TD passes and 5 interceptions. We need more time to see the real Dak, he is not as good as he was last year, and he is not as bad as is this year. It's second year, and teams have more tape on him and Zeke has missed some games.
 

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You are not paying attention. The debate, at least the one I was involved in, centered on how Dak was in a very good situation so naturally it's easier to play well. I openly asked how he would do once the RB and OL were different. And we are seeing the results, you you really can't argue that.
There isn't a QB on this earth who could play well in the Atlanta game. The runningback wasn't the issue in the philly game. Yes, Dak didn't play well against philly nor San Diego. I can't define what a QB is in those 3 games, you seem to think you can. We'll see.

As I told you two weeks ago, Dallas fans have heard it before. Aikman wasn't any good without his supporting cast, same was said about Emmitt and Irvin, Yet they all 3 somehow got in the HOF. Much still to see before defining what a player is remains my point.
 

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Last five games, 2 TD passes and 5 interceptions. We need more time to see the real Dak, he is not as good as he was last year, and he is not as bad as is this year. It's second year, and teams have more tape on him and Zeke has missed some games.
yep...some here already know what he is. I'll need more data to define what kinda player he is. The position requires leadership and desire to get better, based on that....I like Dak's changes
 

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You are not paying attention. The debate, at least the one I was involved in, centered on how Dak was in a very good situation so naturally it's easier to play well. I openly asked how he would do once the RB and OL were different. And we are seeing the results, you you really can't argue that.

Would not see those results if you did that to any QB more or less?
 
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