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. well this off season we had the KC contract drama and the BS extension offer

our GM got fired for doing his job and making the team president look stupid

said GM then proceeded to smear GM with lies about alcohol

and now our starting FS wants to retire at age 22 .

i had us 10-6 this year . maybe that was too ambitious

right before the 1st game and we get another self inflicted wound
 

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we just signed a lineman off of waivers that gave up 8 sacks last year PFF worst lineman of 2016 wtf sign kalis damn dudes we signed him because jay gruden want vets on the line wtf ever
 

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. well this off season we had the KC contract drama and the BS extension offer

our GM got fired for doing his job and making the team president look stupid

said GM then proceeded to smear GM with lies about alcohol

and now our starting FS wants to retire at age 22 .

i had us 10-6 this year . maybe that was too ambitious

right before the 1st game and we get another self inflicted wound

I thought Cravens was going to be our SS. They are saying mental issues for Cravens who had college football injuries. Of course you are giving SM a free pass on this one. What else is new.
 

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I thought Cravens was going to be our SS. They are saying mental issues for Cravens who had college football injuries. Of course you are giving SM a free pass on this one. What else is new.
is there any way he could have known about this unknown mental health issue ? that would be key
 

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another sm draft pick might be gone but if he has health reason its ok its not like he has done anything him and doctson he did intercept the giants ball to win the game o well i finally watch some mclure he looks great
 

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is there any way he could have known about this unknown mental health issue ? that would be key
You guys are assuming way too much here speculating a mental health issue? C'mon man, let the coaches, team doctors and professionals do their jobs to determine where Cravens is at right now. Guy has clearly been hurt and may be considering retirement for all the right reasons. You just never know...

Take a deep breathe until we learn more.
HTTR!
 

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sm picks droping like flys bruce and shanny picks going strong just saying shots fired
 

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is there any way he could have known about this unknown mental health issue ? that would be key

I thought they give these guys pycho tests out of college. He was very injury prone out of college.
 

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You guys are assuming way too much here speculating a mental health issue? C'mon man, let the coaches, team doctors and professionals do their jobs to determine where Cravens is at right now. Guy has clearly been hurt and may be considering retirement for all the right reasons. You just never know...

Take a deep breathe until we learn more.
HTTR!

Considering retirement at 22 means to me he is not committed to football. I know he had one concussion his rookie season. I don't know what happened in college.
 

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I thought they give these guys pycho tests out of college. He was very injury prone out of college.
that doesnt mean you cant develop symptoms of an issue later . if he tesetd ok for the evaluation then how do you bust a guy who picked him if the facts checked out ? this could have developed later (if he has one )
 

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You guys are assuming way too much here speculating a mental health issue? C'mon man, let the coaches, team doctors and professionals do their jobs to determine where Cravens is at right now. Guy has clearly been hurt and may be considering retirement for all the right reasons. You just never know...

Take a deep breathe until we learn more.
HTTR!
look i dont know one way or the other i just answered a question . his teamates said mental health issue
 

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that doesnt mean you cant develop symptoms of an issue later . if he tesetd ok for the evaluation then how do you bust a guy who picked him if the facts checked out ? this could have developed later (if he has one )

True but a guy who has multiple injuries in college would look at his NF injuries differently. Retiring at 22? Something is definitely wrong with this kid.
 

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True but a guy who has multiple injuries in college would look at his NF injuries differently. Retiring at 22? Something is definitely wrong with this kid.
well again any number of issues could be affecting him . we will just have to let it play out
 

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if that is the case then he seems to be a high maintence diva . but again lets let the information get out and see.
 

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By Jerry Brewer Columnist September 1

In their most honest moments, the Washington Redskins have tempered expectations for this season. Quarterback Kirk Cousins mentioned recently that the offense — the most vital organ of this team — might need until October to find itself. Coach Jay Gruden is already conditioning his players to compete through the kind of uneven football that made last season so exasperating.

The regular season doesn’t begin until next Sunday, but the ceiling seems to be lowering. Barring extreme good fortune, Washington won’t make a dramatic leap in 2017. This is merely a different version of the teams that finished just above .500 the past two seasons. This is a younger, more talented and more athletic version that could set up the franchise for a greater future, but if you seek definitive signs of progress this season, you figure to be disappointed.

Nevertheless, this is the most important of Cousins’s three seasons as the starting quarterback, of Gruden’s four seasons as the head coach and of this entire process to finally make Washington a consistent winner again.

It’s a fascinating and onerous dichotomy. Don’t expect too much, but it means everything. It’s a predicament tailor-made for this franchise. How did it get to such a place? Washington redefined ineptitude, as usual, by managing to mix commitment with shortsightedness. In the middle of its climb, it overthrew Scot McCloughan, a general manager who was doing good work despite an internal power struggle, and it still can’t reach an agreement on a long-term contract for the quarterback whose emergence has contributed greatly to the team’s improvement.

The new ‘Hogs’ of the Washington Redskins bond over sweat, steaks
The "Hogs" were a storied offensive line of the Washington Redskins. Now, the "Hogs 2.0" are looking to reclaim greatness. They’re bonding in Houston, home of offensive line star Trent Williams. (Lee Powell/The Washington Post)
Other than that, Washington has stayed the course. The little things in team building? Nailing ’em. The big things? Uhhhh . . .

It means another season in which team politics must be monitored as closely as the 16 games. The playoffs are a possibility if about four areas in question — the overhauled defense, the tweaked passing game, Gruden’s return to calling offensive plays and the need to play better in big situations (red-zone offense, third-down defense, etc.) — receive positive answers. Short of a postseason bid, remaining in the playoff conversation all season is essential. But it is neither realistic nor fair to place playoffs-or-bust pressure on this squad, and that’s mostly the fault of upper management. Bruce Allen, the team president, created this awkward state, and owner Daniel Snyder allowed it. But it’s hard to imagine either being too patient or compassionate if four months of football only yield more frustration.

So what is Washington really playing for this season?

Time.

And if the good vibes and significance of a playoff appearance are doubtful, will time be awarded?

Even if you paid me the $53 million guaranteed that Cousins turned down, I couldn’t answer that question. But assuming that this project doesn’t turn into an abject failure, Year 4 won’t be as most fourth years are in a rebuilding. Instead, it will be another cliffhanger.

If that happens, it would be appropriate mental torture for the sins caused by a lackluster organizational commitment. Snyder seems more patient than he has ever been, and Allen should be credited for his role in overseeing a financially responsible strategy that has given Washington better standards to build roster depth and an understanding of when and where to take risks on high-priced players.


Still, the McCloughan fiasco speaks ill of their leadership, and the negative impact of that firing has yet to be felt. And Cousins, who is playing on a second franchise tag this season, needed to be signed to a lengthy deal or traded for major assets during the offseason. Failure to achieve closure with the Cousins situation clouds the franchise’s future and makes this season weird, no matter how professional the quarterback acts. With QB salaries rising once again, Washington continues to be in the cumbersome position of needing Cousins to play well but not so well that his value soars even higher.

In that sense, the team is forced to root against itself for the second straight season. But even if Washington managed to prosper while Cousins had just a decent season, there are two issues: 1. His value is unlikely to decrease, given what he has accomplished the past two seasons. 2. Considering that Washington already has trepidation about consummating a deal because it knows Cousins is good but not great, what motivation would it have to go all in after a season that reiterates the concern?

Before you even get to how the rest of the team performs, how Gruden calls the offense and how new coordinator Greg Manusky coaches the defense, you can see a cloud hovering, again, over another season. That’s one argument for more time, provided there are enough encouraging signs to compete with mediocre results. The team is in an impossible position, and if hope remains amid all this drama, it makes a strong case to be granted a more blissful kind of continuity.

[You be the expert: Predict how the 2017 Redskins season will unfold]

Everything about this rebuilding has been a little different. The team actually made the playoffs in 2015, which was the first season of McCloughan’s two-year tenure. Gruden actually received a two-year extension after not making the playoffs last season. The backup to former once-a-generation quarterback Robert Griffin III wound up being the answer. Consider these things, and it wouldn’t be peculiar at all if Washington doubled down on a rebuilding after three years of seeming stagnancy.

this here should be our greatest fear . and most of it is on the FO
 

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can you elaborate ?

don't have to. Giving credit to SM for making the 2015 playoffs just proved this article was bs. There should never be any negative article about the team when the season starts in a week.
 
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