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Predictions for 2017-2018 NBA Season

lebron23james

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Do you want to venture a guess what their overall record will be in 2018-19, Forrest Gump?

Who cares...I will be a lakers fan be then, but i would guess better than Seattles team
 

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Dan Gilbert drafted Irving, Lebron, Wiggins...3 out of 4 of his picks have been great...
i mean- looking back o nthe leagues overall success rate drafting in the top 5--- about 40% become all stars.

The Cavs under Gilbert have had 5 picks in the top 5 I believee----- 2 have gone on to become All NBA players. Thats right about where it should be. The Bennett pick was obviously awful but that draft as a whole is one of the weakest in NBA history- esp. at the top.

IF and when the Cavs start their rebuild again they do need to do a better job at drafting- as Bennett and Waiters were bad picks. thompson was a decent pick. Irving and James obviously were home runs.

Chris Grant was the GM back then and he could have done a better job in the draft. However- the other guys that were in the running for the first pick the Bennet year- guys like Noel (who was hurt and has been hurt), Len, McLEmore, Oladipo --- none of them have gone on to become significant high level players. That draft was terrible.

The year where they blew it was drafting Waiters over guys like Lillard and Drummond if you ask me----- I wanted Harrison Barnes at that spot to be honest.
 
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Who cares...I will be a lakers fan be then, but i would guess better than Seattles team

You think the Lakers will have a better record than a non-existent team from Seattle?

Yeah, i'm going to agree with you there, Forrest!
 

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And their star players play like role players. You really don't want me to pull u Lowry numbers in the playoffs. He doesn't perform anything close to a star
watching Waiters and Dragic try and guard Lowry and Derozan would be quite the remedy for that. lol.
 

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i mean- looking back o nthe leagues overall success rate drafting in the top 5--- about 40% become all stars.

The Cavs under Gilbert have had 5 picks in the top 5 I believee----- 2 have gone on to become All NBA players. Thats right about where it should be. The Bennett pick was obviously awful but that draft as a whole is one of the weakest in NBA history- esp. at the top.

IF and when the Cavs start their rebuild again they do need to do a better job at drafting- as Bennett and Waiters were bad picks. thompson was a decent pick. Irving and James obviously were home runs.

Chris Grant was the GM back then and he could have done a better job in the draft. However- the other guys that were in the running for the first pick the Bennet year- guys like Noel (who was hurt and has been hurt), Len, McLEmore, Oladipo --- none of them have gone on to become significant high level players. That draft was terrible.

The year where they blew it was drafting Waiters over guys like Lillard and Drummond if you ask me----- I wanted Harrison Barnes at that spot to be honest.

Yeah, it's a pretty weird thing for her to say
 

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EAST:
1. Boston Celtics - 59-23
2. Cleveland Cavaliers - 52-30
3. Washington Wizards - 48-34
4. Toronto Raptors - 48-34
5. Charlotte Hornets - 45-37
6. Indiana Pacers - 42-40
7. Atlanta Hawks - 40-42
8. Miami Heat - 39-43

Celtics over Heat in 4
Cavaliers over Hawks in 4
Pacers over Wizards in 6
Hornets over Raptors in 7

Celtics over Pacers in 6
Cavaliers over Hornets in 5

Celtics over Cavaliers in 6

WEST:
1. Golden State Warriors - 70-12
2. Houston Rockets - 64-18
3. San Antonio Spurs - 62-20
4. Oklahoma City Thunder - 56-26
5. Los Angeles Clippers - 52-30
6. Memphis Grizzlies - 52-30
7. Minnesota Timberwolves - 48-34
8. Denver Nuggets - 44-38

Warriors over Nuggets in 4
Rockets over Timberwolves in 6
Spurs over Grizzlies in 5
Clippers over Thunder in 5

Warriors over Clippers in 5
Rockets over Spurs in 7

Warriors over Rockets in 6

NBA FINALS:

Golden State Warriors over Boston Celtics in 6
 

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how much do those 9th and 10th guys play?

sure--- the cavs played 9 and 10 guys--- but when there were blowouts....very rarely if never during crunch time.

Stars have and always will win in the playoffs. Toronto has 2 legit all star players. THE Heat have zero.


Didn't the Heat push those 2 all stars to a game 7, 2 seasons ago without Bosh or anyone to replace him?
After the trade deadline last year the Raptors were supposed to be vastly improved.
Instead, it was the same old playoff shit show.
Talk about a team with no upside.
It's them.
 

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i mean- looking back o nthe leagues overall success rate drafting in the top 5--- about 40% become all stars.

The Cavs under Gilbert have had 5 picks in the top 5 I believee----- 2 have gone on to become All NBA players. Thats right about where it should be. The Bennett pick was obviously awful but that draft as a whole is one of the weakest in NBA history- esp. at the top.

IF and when the Cavs start their rebuild again they do need to do a better job at drafting- as Bennett and Waiters were bad picks. thompson was a decent pick. Irving and James obviously were home runs.

Chris Grant was the GM back then and he could have done a better job in the draft. However- the other guys that were in the running for the first pick the Bennet year- guys like Noel (who was hurt and has been hurt), Len, McLEmore, Oladipo --- none of them have gone on to become significant high level players. That draft was terrible.

The year where they blew it was drafting Waiters over guys like Lillard and Drummond if you ask me----- I wanted Harrison Barnes at that spot to be honest.



Thompson is only even known because of James. On his own, he was a horrendous pick.
The Heat proved in 1 year that Waiters was never properly given a chance to show his potential.
Amazing what good training and coaching can do to elevate a players game.
 

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i mean- looking back o nthe leagues overall success rate drafting in the top 5--- about 40% become all stars.

The Cavs under Gilbert have had 5 picks in the top 5 I believee----- 2 have gone on to become All NBA players. Thats right about where it should be. The Bennett pick was obviously awful but that draft as a whole is one of the weakest in NBA history- esp. at the top.

IF and when the Cavs start their rebuild again they do need to do a better job at drafting- as Bennett and Waiters were bad picks. thompson was a decent pick. Irving and James obviously were home runs.

Chris Grant was the GM back then and he could have done a better job in the draft. However- the other guys that were in the running for the first pick the Bennet year- guys like Noel (who was hurt and has been hurt), Len, McLEmore, Oladipo --- none of them have gone on to become significant high level players. That draft was terrible.

The year where they blew it was drafting Waiters over guys like Lillard and Drummond if you ask me----- I wanted Harrison Barnes at that spot to be honest.

Waiters thrived in Miami, culture (meaning Cleveland's shit) is what kept him down. Waiters is a more productive player than TT. The minute he was injured last season, Miami's offense suffered greatly without him.

TT got out rebounded by Stephen Curry in the Finals. Think about that. A guy he's almost a whole foot taller than.
 

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Didn't the Heat push those 2 all stars to a game 7, 2 seasons ago without Bosh or anyone to replace him?
After the trade deadline last year the Raptors were supposed to be vastly improved.
Instead, it was the same old playoff shit show.
Talk about a team with no upside.
It's them.
yah with Dwade, DEng, Joe Johnson and an injured Valunciunas. LOL.
 

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Waiters thrived in Miami, culture (meaning Cleveland's shit) is what kept him down. Waiters is a more productive player than TT. The minute he was injured last season, Miami's offense suffered greatly without him.

TT got out rebounded by Stephen Curry in the Finals. Think about that. A guy he's almost a whole foot taller than.
Waiters "thrived" because he was the man at times---- do you think its coincidence OKC didnt even bother to offer him a deal? that he had to settle for 3.5M at the end of free agency? lol -- NO ONE wanted him.

Heat did the dumbest thing you could do---- take guys like Johnson and Waiters- mediocre schmucks---- give them big roles and then- pay them more for their roles and stats than their actual talent.

of course Miami's offense struggled without him- who is their other shooting guard? Ricahrdson? LOL, Winslow? both guys have been injury prone. Funny how when Josh Richardson couldnt shoot worth shit after the guys like Joe Johnson, Deng, Wade- guys that could collapse a defense or spread the floor left. Having to do it on his own was a RUDE awakening.
 

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I sent you a DM with the picture of the avatar I'd like you to use for our bet. Here it is again incase it didn't go through somehow.

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Waiters "thrived" because he was the man at times---- do you think its coincidence OKC didnt even bother to offer him a deal? that he had to settle for 3.5M at the end of free agency? lol -- NO ONE wanted him.

Heat did the dumbest thing you could do---- take guys like Johnson and Waiters- mediocre schmucks---- give them big roles and then- pay them more for their roles and stats than their actual talent.

of course Miami's offense struggled without him- who is their other shooting guard? Ricahrdson? LOL, Winslow? both guys have been injury prone. Funny how when Josh Richardson couldnt shoot worth shit after the guys like Joe Johnson, Deng, Wade- guys that could collapse a defense or spread the floor left. Having to do it on his own was a RUDE awakening.

I believe player evolution can actually occur. I think we can all agree that last year's Waiters was easily the best version of himself that we've seen. Could it be a smoke screen? Possibly. But the Heat are banking on it based on what they've seen of him both in practices and in games.

In addition, Waiters got a very reasonable contract for his production. At worst, you'll know what you'll always be getting with Waiters. Johnson would be the one I would be most concerned about, but mostly because the Heat now have a glut at the PF position.
 

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I believe player evolution can actually occur. I think we can all agree that last year's Waiters was easily the best version of himself that we've seen. Could it be a smoke screen? Possibly. But the Heat are banking on it based on what they've seen of him both in practices and in games.

In addition, Waiters got a very reasonable contract for his production. At worst, you'll know what you'll always be getting with Waiters. Johnson would be the one I would be most concerned about, but mostly because the Heat now have a glut at the PF position.
of course it was the best version of himself--- he got the "alpha" role he has always wanted. The only problem with that is- if Dion Waiters is in that role- you arent doing shit.

If they brought in an ACTUAL high level all star like a Paul George or Heyward- you would see the same sulky, sucky Waiters clapping his hands looking for the ball, lazy on defense and about himself.....all you have to do to keep him happy is make him your teams alpha....how far do you think Dion Waiters is taking you?
 
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