Bold Ass Predictions right here/yeah that's right/come get some of it pussies/bring your balls!!

[ericd7633]

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see JT having alotta success in the NFL. But just comparing their college #'s Barrett's put up better #'s in less amount of time. JT has him beat for single season marks in passing yards, rushing yards, TD's & completion % while throwing for fewer int's through 3 season. Although Barrett wasn't the starter every game last season while Henne started for those assholes in ann arbor for 4 years.

Have I said fuck meeeechegan in this thread yet? If not fuck meeeechegan!

Yeah, Barrett is going to have better numbers, but the system is more conducive to that. I think Barrett is a good college QB, even though he hasn't been that good the last 2 seasons.

 

[amszete]

B1G Ohio State
Big 12 or whatever they call that wannabe conference now West Virginia
SEC Georgia
PAC 12 Stanford
ACC Miami

 

[amszete]

B1G Wisky
Big 12 OU - I really do like Okie Lite and think they will have a successful season and push for the Big12 but trip up a couple times along the way
SEC Bama
PAC 12 Washington
ACC FSU

 

[7Samurai13]

I dont know. That Tate Forcier guy was pretty good.

Dude does have a September Heisman as a freshman.

 

[Across The Field]

I'm not saying Henne has had a good or even average NFL career. But it's still been that, a career. Will Barrett ever see sustained playing time in the NFL? I have my doubts.

I'd take Henne's talent over Barrett, it's not like you have to be a pro-style passer to get selected high in the NFL, hell none of the QB's selected in the 1st round this year came from a pro-style offense.

I'm assuming you think Barrett's gonna be a 1st/2nd rounder?

Nope, but he's a better talent than Henne.

Tell me who the better michigan QB is, Tom Brady or Chad Henne. Keep in mind, draft position is all that matters, apparently.

 

[cwerph]

Seriously? That's what you're going off? Jim Druckenmiller was a 1st rounder. Remember that.

Tim Tebow 25th in the 1st round
Johnny Manziel 22nd in the 1st round

Seriously, you don't need to convince 32 teams, just one moron.

 

[ericd7633]

Nope, but he's a better talent than Henne.

Tell me who the better michigan QB is, Tom Brady or Chad Henne. Keep in mind, draft position is all that matters, apparently.

Obviously Brady is better, but he's also done it at the NFL level. If Henne is drafted higher, has a better/longer NFL career than Barrett, I'm not sure how he shouldn't be seen as the better talent/QB? I think Barrett's prospects as a NFL QB are extremely low(we'll see if I'm right on that or not) so to me he's no different than guys like Graham Harrell or Colt Brennen.

I mean you quote that Walter Football site all the time and they don't even have him as a top 20 QB prospect for next year.

 

[4down20]

4D20 will blindly support anything and everything Saban/Alabama does.

Well this is easy to bust.

Saban is wrong about wanting 9 game conference schedules and Alabama needs to get it's shit together when it comes to our 2019 schedule.

 

[Olyduck]

There are some predictions that as bold as vanilla ice cream up in here.

4D20 will blindly support anything and everything Saban/Alabama does.
MaizeandBlue will whine about the first down call against Ohio State and the refs being from Ohio
AlaskaGuy will post at least one picture of Petersen Per Day
Oklahoma fans will mention that Kansas beat Texas last season.

fify

 

[Across The Field]

Obviously Brady is better, but he's also done it at the NFL level. If Henne is drafted higher, has a better/longer NFL career than Barrett, I'm not sure how he shouldn't be seen as the better talent/QB? I think Barrett's prospects as a NFL QB are extremely low(we'll see if I'm right on that or not) so to me he's no different than guys like Graham Harrell or Colt Brennen.

I mean you quote that Walter Football site all the time and they don't even have him as a top 20 QB prospect for next year.

So if he is a more talented QB, why will his numbers get blown away by Barrett's? Even his passing numbers will likely fall, barring injury. He played on very talented michigan teams, btw.

Again, Henne has been a very, very bad pro. If you gave Barrett the opportunities Henne has gotten, I have 0 doubt he puts up just as good of numbers. He got drafted because he came from a pro system, and he has stayed in the league because Miami was mind-bogglingly inept at developing a QB until Tannehill, and Jacksonville still hasn't really. Barrett likely won't play long in the NFL because he comes from a spread system. Simple as that. He's still an overall better QB than Henne, without question.

 

[Across The Field]

Tim Tebow 25th in the 1st round
Johnny Manziel 22nd in the 1st round

Seriously, you don't need to convince 32 teams, just one moron.

Yeah, eric has made some outlandish statements but this one is pretty silly. The original post was a michigan fan saying how bad Barrett was, despite the fact he's set multiple records, finished top 5 in the Heisman one year, and could have an even better year this year. Eric just loves ripping OSU when he has a chance, even when it doesn't make any sense.

 

[Tin Man]

5. Tennessee will be clubbed like a baby seal twice in one season by Alabama.

You're so wrong. Let me explain. During the reign of Lucifer's Vessel atop Bammer football, countless souls have been damned. The Vessel has attained glory, gold, and accolades beyond the dreams of avarice. However, Lucifer is the trickster. Before, he has reminded his Vessel of this. Time to do so again. Bama will lose to Tennessee in Tuscaloosa and look bad doing so. It will be an embarrassing loss, as much the fault of Bama's poor play as Tennessee's tenacity. Also in the coming season, Bama will lose to an SECw opponent. As a result, they will not have a chance for revenge in 2017. They will not appear in the SECCG. No crimson in Atlanta in December. Alas...

 

[ericd7633]

So if he is a more talented QB, why will his numbers get blown away by Barrett's? Even his passing numbers will likely fall, barring injury. He played on very talented michigan teams, btw.

Again, Henne has been a very, very bad pro. If you gave Barrett the opportunities Henne has gotten, I have 0 doubt he puts up just as good of numbers. He got drafted because he came from a pro system, and he has stayed in the league because Miami was mind-bogglingly inept at developing a QB until Tannehill, and Jacksonville still hasn't really. Barrett likely won't play long in the NFL because he comes from a spread system. Simple as that. He's still an overall better QB than Henne, without question.

The same reason why Barrett's numbers are blown out of the water by guys like Harrell, Brennan etc. The system has a lot to do with that. And you can say Henne got drafted just because of the system, and I'll say it was because he has more talent.

And Barrett playing in a spread shouldn't hurt him because guess who else played in spread offenses? Jared Goff, Mitch Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Davis Webb(3rd rounder), Paxton Lynch, and hell even guys like Mariotta, Manziel and Newton came from spread background. That's a pretty lame excuse.

 

[ericd7633]

Yeah, eric has made some outlandish statements but this one is pretty silly. The original post was a michigan fan saying how bad Barrett was, despite the fact he's set multiple records, finished top 5 in the Heisman one year, and could have an even better year this year. Eric just loves ripping OSU when he has a chance, even when it doesn't make any sense.

How am I ripping Ohio State? I said Barrett's been a good college QB. Yes, how blasphemous of me to suggest a guy who got drafted higher, will have a better/longer NFL career, is somehow worse than a guy who projects to go undrafted and may not even be on roster at all. Totally outlandish. lol.

 

[Across The Field]

The same reason why Barrett's numbers are blown out of the water by guys like Harrell, Brennan etc. The system has a lot to do with that. And you can say Henne got drafted just because of the system, and I'll say it was because he has more talent.

And Barrett playing in a spread shouldn't hurt him because guess who else played in spread offenses? Jared Goff, Mitch Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Davis Webb(3rd rounder), Paxton Lynch, and hell even guys like Mariotta, Manziel and Newton came from spread background. That's a pretty lame excuse.

Yeah, that's not accurate. Goff, Trubisky, Mahomes, Lynch, and Webb all played in schemes that saw them throw the ball at least 65-70 more times than Barrett, if not way more than that.

Manziel got drafted where he did because Cleveland is fucking retarded. That was a horrible pick. I have 0 doubt Barrett would be a better pro with Manziel's opportunities.

Mariotta and Newton are flat out more talented than Barrett. Duh.

 

[Across The Field]

How am I ripping Ohio State? I said Barrett's been a good college QB. Yes, how blasphemous of me to suggest a guy who got drafted higher, will have a better/longer NFL career, is somehow worse than a guy who projects to go undrafted and may not even be on roster at all. Totally outlandish. lol.

So you're telling me you'd be happier this year with Chad Henne (in college) as your QB than Barrett? You'd feel like your team would have a better chance at winning a title? He is a more prototypical NFL pocket passer. This is not hard to figure out. Overall, he's not a more talented QB. Was Druckenmiller more talented than Tommy Frazier? No, but he was deemed as more suited to a typical NFL offense. Whoops.

Also, I never once said Barrett is a better pro prospect, I said he's more talented than any michigan QB. His college numbers roundly support that assertion.

 

[ericd7633]

Yeah, that's not accurate. Goff, Trubisky, Mahomes, Lynch, and Webb all played in schemes that say them throw the ball at least 65-70 more times than Barrett, if not way more than that.

Manziel got drafted where he did because Cleveland is fucking retarded. That was a horrible pick. I have 0 doubt Barrett would be a better pro with Manziel's opportunities.

Mariotta and Newton are flat out more talented than Barrett. Duh.

The spread and/or air-raid schemes aren't conducive to getting guys prepared for the next level, which is my point, and that didn't stop all those guys getting drafted and getting drafted early.

 

[mcnabb7542]

*Michigan win's the Big10 in a shocker!

* Florida St Upsets Bama in the opener!

* Darnell has a pedestrian like season with SC!

*Baylor has a 10 win season!

* Georgia wins 10 games as well!

 

[ericd7633]

So you're telling me you'd be happier this year with Chad Henne (in college) as your QB than Barrett? You'd feel like your team would have a better chance at winning a title? He is a more prototypical NFL pocket passer. This is not hard to figure out. Overall, he's not a more talented QB. Was Druckenmiller more talented than Tommy Frazier? No, but he was deemed as more suited to a typical NFL offense. Whoops.

Also, I never once said Barrett is a better pro prospect, I said he's more talented than any michigan QB. His college numbers roundly support that assertion.

Depends on the system, but I think Henne is more talented running a pro-style offense than Barrett is running Ohio State's version of the spread. And the NFL people would back up my claim.

And wow, big shock he has better stats running the offense he does. He threw 24 TD's last year and couldn't have been more average(35th in total QBR).

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

Seriously? That's what you're going off? Jim Druckenmiller was a 1st rounder. Remember that.

JT is trash and probably the reason you got destroyed in the CFP. Your line was bad also.

Anyways I'll take Henne, Navarre and D-Rob over JT all day everyday.