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MLB Daily Thread: YANKS LOSE DODGERS WIN CARDS ARE COMING

Rock Strongo

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Hafner:
w/ Rangers in 2002: 86 OPS+
w/ Indians in 2003: 115 OPS+
w/ Indians in 2004: 162 OPS+

clearly roids
 

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Hafner:
w/ Rangers in 2002: 86 OPS+
w/ Indians in 2003: 115 OPS+
w/ Indians in 2004: 162 OPS+

clearly roids

"But.. but.. your guy. . ."

Clearly an obsfucation from a guilty conscience.

Also, I would bet my middle testicle that Hafner was on the juice.
 

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Ortiz failed a steroid test

Yet they still can't tell us what he was using and whether or not said substance was actually banned.

Even Manfred said he might be innocent FFS.

Did Ortiz use during some or all of his career? Probably, but that test was shady AF and not admissible in court there Francis.
 

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Yet they still can't tell us what he was using and whether or not said substance was actually banned.

Even Manfred said he might be innocent FFS.

Did Ortiz use during some or all of his career? Probably, but that test was shady AF and not admissible in court there Francis.

it was a milkshake
 

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Ortiz had a career SLG% of .532 in the minors and showed plenty of power throughout the minors as a Twin. I wouldn't be surprised if he used PEDs (or any player, really), but it's not like he was Yuniesky Betancourt. Ortiz batted .272/.339/.500 with 53 extra base hits and a 120 OPS+ in 125 games in 2002.
the twins hads to let him go to make room for jose mroban from texas in the rule 5. twins GM was a huge fan of morbans. he never panned out.

they wanted ortiz to play tom kellys small ball. hit opposite field, etc. ortiz wasnt good at that, at the time. he was a pull hitter. he also didnt hit lefties.

i find it ridiculous that people can say this about ortiz but not someone like stan musial, who suddenly developed power at age 27. like ortiz!

prior to age 27 he averaged 12 HR and 82 RBI

suddenly, at age 27 he hits 39 HR and leads the league with 131 RBI and a.376 average.

you can find examples in any era.

and yeah, i believe ortiz used something...like everyone was...but it does magically make you into a ball player.
 

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the twins hads to let him go to make room for jose mroban from texas in the rule 5. twins GM was a huge fan of morbans. he never panned out.

they wanted ortiz to play tom kellys small ball. hit opposite field, etc. ortiz wasnt good at that, at the time. he was a pull hitter. he also didnt hit lefties.

i find it ridiculous that people can say this about ortiz but not someone like stan musial, who suddenly developed power at age 27. like ortiz!

prior to age 27 he averaged 12 HR and 82 RBI

suddenly, at age 27 he hits 39 HR and leads the league with 131 RBI and a.376 average.

you can find examples in any era.

and yeah, i believe ortiz used something...like everyone was...but it does magically make you into a ball player.

yet you think Bonds is rightfully banned from the Hall of Fame
 

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yet you think Bonds is rightfully banned from the Hall of Fame
i think bonds should be in.

but then again, ortiz wasnt part of a federal investigation, and he also didnt turn into the incredible hulk.
 

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by age 27, musial also had 2 mvps under his belt.
 

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and yeah, i believe ortiz used something...like everyone was...but it does magically make you into a ball player.

Please tell me you're not evoking the "steroids don't help you hit the ball" retarded nonsense.
 
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