Would you be happier?

[john01992]

Here is an article from November 2013 which cites the $17 million ACC payout.

Louisville Cardinals move to ACC in 2014 will only make them more money -- ESPN The Magazine - ESPN

JESUS CHRIST YOU ARE FUCKEN DUMB.

acc gets 20 mill as cited by cbssports, ESPN, Sports Illustrated, NBC sports, and even the freaking associated press all put their names to it. There are sports forums dedicated entirely to conference realignment that talk about this stuff all the time and on those forums (that have no shortage of b12 fans) it is a generally accepted fact. Only with idiots like you guys who clearly don't know what they are talking about is this up for discussion. Congrats you found a link that has it wrong because they most likely made the exact same mistake you did.....terrific. Too bad there are 20 other links out there that say 20 mill. and even if you found one link that was wrong ==> doesn't change the fact that the other networks all had enough confidence in their sources to report the number at 20 mill

unless you are really........really.......stupid enough to think that Notre Dame joining as a non football member bring w/ them a great BB program, and 5 extra ACC games a year including FSU-notre dame and you are honestly stupid enough to believe that the 17 mill a year figure did not change one bit.......

just so i hear you right.......

jeez talk about teaching evolution to the bible belt

 

[john01992]

The links you provide appear to tie the increase revenue for ACC teams to the ACC network. I read today reports that this network may never make the airwaves. Therefore, the ACC would be stuck with $17 million per school.

Many of the ACC schools are in such poor shape they may not be able to afford providing stipends to student athletes.

There is a reason Maryland bolted the conference.

1. the revenue is from espn

2. the ACC network (while shitty) is already up and running. The difference between it & the b10/p12 is that it does not operate on its own channel yet.

3. you are saying....i am making a stretch to say it is tied to the acc network......i am making a 2nd stretch to say the acc network does not exist.....and lastly i am somehow tieing that to say the acc will get paid 17 mill a year despite the fact that notre dame is already in the conference. and lastly i am dumb enough to believe that notre dame-fsu is a matchup that will be regulated to the regional acc network.....not primetime espn

 

[bbwvfan]

WVU Athletics On Schedule To Make Serious Jump In Revenue In The Near Future - The Smoking Musket

I am dumb?

Well, at least my school's AD ain't dumb.

Look at these numbers....

In 2014-15, that number should rise to about $33M; in 2015-16 will be about $37M. Estimates don't include bowl cuts, NCAAB shares, etc.
10:27 AM - 12 Jul 2013

That looks a lot better than the $17 million the ACC schools are gettin'.

 

[bbwvfan]

JESUS CHRIST YOU ARE FUCKEN DUMB.

acc gets 20 mill as cited by cbssports, ESPN, Sports Illustrated, NBC sports, and even the freaking associated press all put their names to it. There are sports forums dedicated entirely to conference realignment that talk about this stuff all the time and on those forums (that have no shortage of b12 fans) it is a generally accepted fact. Only with idiots like you guys who clearly don't know what they are talking about is this up for discussion. Congrats you found a link that has it wrong because they most likely made the exact same mistake you did.....terrific. Too bad there are 20 other links out there that say 20 mill. and even if you found one link that was wrong ==> doesn't change the fact that the other networks all had enough confidence in their sources to report the number at 20 mill

unless you are really........really.......stupid enough to think that Notre Dame joining as a non football member bring w/ them a great BB program, and 5 extra ACC games a year including FSU-notre dame and you are honestly stupid enough to believe that the 17 mill a year figure did not change one bit.......

just so i hear you right.......

jeez talk about teaching evolution to the bible belt

When you can provide PROOF that ACC schools have received $20 million dollars, I will believe it. Until then, you are stuck with the $17 million dollar figure which has been PROVEN.

ACC basketball sucks.

 

[bbwvfan]

In the mean time, WVU will soon make $40 million per year because Luck was savvy enough to get his alma mater into a financially superior league. WVU will out pace it's former rivals in every area of development. Fans of our former rivals will end up full of jealous envy. Looks like you already are envious of our superior status.

It is a great day to be a Mountaineer!

 

[bbwvfan]

$40 million is greater than $17 million... right?

 

[bbwvfan]

Even if we go with your shady numbers.... since multiple outlets have never been wrong.... cough... cough...

$40 million is greater than $20 million. Right?

I might be fucking dumb, but multiple sources to include ESPN said Oliver Luck was going to be named the next AD for the University of Texas. Just sayin...

BTW... ESPN just replayed its story on what a great a boyfriend Mantis Te'o was last year...

 

[GoldRusher]

Its PR 101, the ACC knows full well that they are not on the level with the Big 12 and the other conferences or they would have announced their new numbers from the mountain top for everyone to celebrate like the other conferences have done or will do.

 

[john01992]

I love how you

1. cite the 17 mill still even though ever major news source and 20 different regional newspapers have all been pretty firm that the number is 20 mill

2. ask for proof that the acc received 20 mill when that is impossible because they havent yet completed year #1 of that contract

3. refuse to believe the 20 mill number even when common logic and countless links say otherwise

4. compare the 37 mill that wvu makes on EVERYTHING and compare it to what the acc makes just on their TV contract (which is off by 3 mill)

5. that you legitimately believe that the ACC is making not 5-6 mill less but 20 mill less per school

6. the automatic bowl games champs vs acc CCG/orange gives the b12 a 500k advantage per school. the tier 3 tv gives about a 1 mill per school advantage (not including tx or ou). the total advantage is in reality 1.5 mill acc vs b12. however.......lets talk basketball

the big east made 26 mill from 2005 - 2010 in tourny payouts. 2 things to factor
1) the game unit that awards $$$ for conferences has increased by 50%. 26 mill in 2005-2010 terms is like 39 mill in 2014-2019 figures. add in that the acc is going to be a more top heavy league than the BE IE ==> they will have deeper runs (1 FF is worth 9.5 mill) and the current ACC schools (including louisville) have 10 FF in the last 10 years between them you are talking 38.5 mill. odds are that the extra game units the ACC will have over the acc (377k per win) and id give another 2 mill to that. that is 40.5 mill /5/15 figure which is an extra half mill per school per year.

the b12 will get $bb as well but at the most 1/5th of that. in reality the b12 has about a 1.1 mill advantage. The truth is that with the exception of wvu neither conference can poach the other without the departing school taking a paycut due to increased travel costs. the differences is negligible at best. An acc school going to the b12 wont get a contract increase when
1) they have fox which already overpaid them (they did the same to the pac & BE because of FS1)
2) the b12 is on a contract negotiated with aggie/mizz in the league not tcu/wvu

in other words. the acc in their next round of negotiations can say "you overpaid us last time....pay us for real this time" and they can win that argument. Thats why despite trading maryland for an inferior louisville they managed to use ND to get a huge pay increase despite having a conference that wasn't that much better off than the previous contract.

with the b12 they can't do that. if the b12 adds FSU/clemson they are not getting a massive increase, it will be an increase no doubt but a very small one. in effect as it stands the b12 is worth 80 cents for each 1$ fox pays* so if FSU/clemson add 25 cents in value to the league the contract increase will be 5 cents not 25 cents.

*good luck trying to dispute this. The b12 has 5 states 4 of which are among the smallest in FBS.....3 of which have multiple FBS schools.

 

[john01992]

Even if we go with your shady numbers.... since multiple outlets have never been wrong.... cough... cough...

$40 million is greater than $20 million. Right?

I might be fucking dumb, but multiple sources to include ESPN said Oliver Luck was going to be named the next AD for the University of Texas. Just sayin...

BTW... ESPN just replayed its story on what a great a boyfriend Mantis Te'o was last year...

theres a difference between who is going to be the next (insert position) which is something that is up in the air vs something that deals with contracts that are written in pen and don't change. a lot of times when media all report that person X to be named_____. and it turns out not to be true. a majority of the time the concept of provisional truth applies where that original person was to be named but someone had second thoughts and opted to go with someone else. you clearly don't know how the AP operates. they won't take someones word for it.......they will look at that contract with their own eyes to make sure.

and another thing that you are missing is that ESPN the company that made the contract also reported it to be 20 mill. I seriously doubt that espn would 1) misreport their own contract 2) compromise their journalist integrity by reporting this without knowing for sure if it was 20 mill

 

[john01992]

Its PR 101, the ACC knows full well that they are not on the level with the Big 12 and the other conferences or they would have announced their new numbers from the mountain top for everyone to celebrate like the other conferences have done or will do.

they kinda did that already when they announced the deal 1 month after the BE waived the 27 month requirement and then proceeded to announce the GOR & upgraded contract at the exact same time

 

[bbwvfan]

theres a difference between who is going to be the next (insert position) which is something that is up in the air vs something that deals with contracts that are written in pen and don't change. a lot of times when media all report that person X to be named_____. and it turns out not to be true. a majority of the time the concept of provisional truth applies where that original person was to be named but someone had second thoughts and opted to go with someone else. you clearly don't know how the AP operates. they won't take someones word for it.......they will look at that contract with their own eyes to make sure.

and another thing that you are missing is that ESPN the company that made the contract also reported it to be 20 mill. I seriously doubt that espn would 1) misreport their own contract 2) compromise their journalist integrity by reporting this without knowing for sure if it was 20 mill

Something you seem to be missing is that the last ESPN.com article regarding UofL's good fortune mentioned the $17 million payout.

 

[john01992]

Something you seem to be missing is that the last ESPN.com article regarding UofL's good fortune mentioned the $17 million payout.

something that you seem to be missing is that a larger ESPN report plus 100 other major sources all say 20 mill.

it is either a typo or louisville is not getting a full share (like wvu/tcu with the b12)

the reality is that you are tying to lie out of your own ass trying to convince yourself that the ACC is only at 17 mill. common logic doesn't say that and 100 different sources don't say that. go google a conference realignment forum and post the question and see what the response is.

 

[bbwvfan]

ACC media-rights deal to lock in schools OK'd by presidents - ESPN

The grant of rights coincides with the ACC's TV deal with ESPN through the 2026-27 season. That deal was worth $17 million per school per year, but sources told ESPN last year it is expected to increase to at least $20 million per school per year with the addition of Notre Dame.

The contract is worth $17 million per school per year. What about this is confusing to you?

Expectations are not worth shit! Once the new numbers are produced and reported as fact... come back with your 'I told you so.' Until then... shut the fuck up!

Comprehend that jackass?

 

[john01992]

ACC media-rights deal to lock in schools OK'd by presidents - ESPN



The contract is worth $17 million per school per year. What about this is confusing to you?

Expectations are not worth shit! Once the new numbers are produced and reported as fact... come back with your 'I told you so.' Until then... shut the fuck up!

Comprehend that jackass?

lmao you are funny. 100% in denial of this. expectation = a strong belief that something will happen or be the case in the future.

you can bet your ass that the acc is making 20 mill a year and everyone from the AP, to cbs, to SI, ESPN, and even a bunch of other newspapers all say 20 mill. get over it dude, you are wrong on this.

I guess trying to so adamantly argue against it is a sign of ones own insecurities about the b12

 

[Wheat]

why do you even care?

re you really that butt hurt about nobody in the BIG 12 caring that CU left that you have to troll BIG 12 boards to stir up a ruckus?

Really?

Face it, CU is the face of medicority when it comes to CFB (and other sports) and will be for years to come.

Tough shit, eh?

 

[bbwvfan]

With new swagger, ACC moves ahead on network - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global


The conference’s recent additions — Notre Dame, Louisville, Pittsburgh and Syracuse — plus the grant of rights “enhance those discussions,” Swofford added. Those moves caused ESPN to sweeten its rights offer for an all-in media deal that will average $260 million a year through 2026-27. There are other contractual elements, sources said, that could push the value higher, especially if the conference starts its own network.

So, this source says the newest deal with ESPN is worth $260 million a year. $260,000,000 divided by 14 equals $18,571,429 per team.


Isn't that less than $20 million? Closer to $17 million...

 

[bbwvfan]

But Monday's news, which reportedly coincides with planning for a possible ACC Network that could help push teams' annual revenue to that $20-million mark or beyond, puts the ACC on the same stable ground as its competitors.

Read More: ACC Grant of Rights will end college football conference realignment - College Football - Stewart Mandel - SI.com

 

[bbwvfan]

Note... that the ACC Network could help push the team's revenue to $20 million.


It is not a guarantee of $20 million.


Much different the wealthier Big 12 conference... where the big bucks are guaranteed!

 

[john01992]

Note... that the ACC Network could help push the team's revenue to $20 million.


It is not a guarantee of $20 million.


Much different the wealthier Big 12 conference... where the big bucks are guaranteed!

lmao now you switch to SI's wording of it because you don't like espn's

Starting July 1, the ACC's average annual media rights intake per school will surpass $20 million, according to a league source.
^^^^^^
thats CBS wording of it
ACC approves Grant of Rights deal - CBSSports.com

sounds pretty guaranteed to me.......

you really are pathetic if you have to resort to this BS. there are over 100 links out there that say 20 mill. get over it.

yoThe ACC network is already up & running. It is mostly online but also has a tv component to it. In time it will grow to be more profitable, ESPN is in talks with streaming rights with directTV for espnwatch. streaming falls outside a TV contract and that will mean more money for the ACC in the near future. NCAA tourny revenue is at an all time high and is set to double by 2017.

The ACC is just as stable $$$ wise as the big 12. and your reluctance to admit this just highlights your own insecurity about your own conference.