Why in the hell is Durant talking smack to the OKC bench?

[LAD]

You can give me all the excuses in the world and it still ain't changing my opinion. KD lost after up 3-1 - whatever the case - he jumped shit and went to the team that beat him.


It's weak. I can dig you are a GS fan and like the home team. But that's being pretty impatient for a team with a new head coach that had a good playoff run.


It's shit that pussies do

I didn't give you excuses but rather pointed out some of the facts as reasons why I think he left. And I think 10 years is a long time to wait before making a change. But that too is just my opinion.

 

[tlance]

I think it was a variety of things that caused them to lose those 3 games. GS woke up and OKC stopped doing what they were doing the first 4 games. OKC may have went ISO because GS forced them to by playing much better D. Nothing you can do about great defense in your face. Teams force shots at times - look at GS in the last 4 minutes of game 7 in the Finals. Momentum is a mothefucker



To expect a 1st year coach to even get that far on the defending champs is a bit much IMO.

It is not just about Donovan though. KD had one shot to play in GS. It was this year or never. Westbrook was due to be a free agent in 2017, so even if KD chose to re-up, there wasn't no guarantee Russ would have chosen the same. It is possible that Russ resigned BECAUSE KD left. He always struck me as the kind of guy who wanted his own team.

THe whole resign for a year thing is great and all, but it would have also closed the window on the one place he wanted to go.

I understand the criticism, but I also think some of you guys are not realizing how complicated this situation really was.

 

[Scapegoat]

And to me that's like Karl Malone can't get it done in Utah, so he joins the Bulls. Just is gay. OKC runs through the Mavs, Spurs, and goes up 3-1 on the defending champs.. And KD saw something he didn't like? Like he wasn't one of the main guys with the ball in his hand with 3 chances to close out GS?

It's early, but OKC is sitting at 6-1 and on top in the West. So they're not crying about it.


Call OKC's offense last year in that series a mystery. No idea why things changed. But it's obvious GS stepped up their D and won 3 in a row. Maybe OKC couldn't elevate their game to that level and went back to what they are used to?

kd quit. Pretty simple.

 

[Scapegoat]

It is not just about Donovan though. KD had one shot to play in GS. It was this year or never. Westbrook was due to be a free agent in 2017, so even if KD chose to re-up, there wasn't no guarantee Russ would have chosen the same. It is possible that Russ resigned BECAUSE KD left. He always struck me as the kind of guy who wanted his own team.

THe whole resign for a year thing is great and all, but it would have also closed the window on the one place he wanted to go.

I understand the criticism, but I also think some of you guys are not realizing how complicated this situation really was.

Russ is a very loyal guy. Just look at his life. He was always going to stay.
I understand the dynamics of the situation. kd was always a pseudo alpha. And he's not mentally strong enough to be a leader on a team. Guy can play but he's not comfortable in that role.

 

[Scapegoat]

I'm not sure Curry is the dominant alpha either but he didn't have the high expectations kd had coming into the league. I think Green is the only true alpha on that team. But I don't follow them as close as other people so I could be wrong.

 

[Scapegoat]

No one mentions how much better OKC's defense is without kd.

 

[tlance]

Lue is a disciple of PhilJack but I didn't see a whole lot of X's and O's. Maybe i missed something... I see Lebron doing alot of barking on that team.. Subs? Sure we can give that one to Lue.

This is a little bit funny to me considering that Phil Jackson was not a great X and O coach. That is not why he was so successful. He is perhaps the greatest NBA basketball coach ever because he was great at managing people and getting them to work together.

Tex Winter was the architect of the triangle, not Phil Jackson.

 

[tlance]

Russ is a very loyal guy. Just look at his life. He was always going to stay.
I understand the dynamics of the situation. kd was always a pseudo alpha. And he's not mentally strong enough to be a leader on a team. Guy can play but he's not comfortable in that role.

It is fine to that say now. Maybe OKC fans always felt differently, but perception of the national media was that Russ was likely to leave when he became a FA up until the day KD bolted.

If those two really did get along, why didn't they both sign extensions before FA began? I know the coexisted, but they argued on the court quite a bit. I respect each for keeping their dirty laundry to themselves, but my bet is that they did not like each other all that much when they were teammates despite efforts to show publically that they did.

Relationships matter and I think you guys are downplaying the potential for tension in this one.

 

[SJ76]

This is a little bit funny to me considering that Phil Jackson was not a great X and O coach. That is not why he was so successful. He is perhaps the greatest NBA basketball coach ever because he was great at managing people and getting them to work together.

Tex Winter was the architect of the triangle, not Phil Jackson.

You are out of your damn mind as usual. So tex winter gets all the credit in Chicago and LA?

 

[SJ76]

Comparing Tyron Lue and Phil Jackson is extremely comical

 

[Shanemansj13]

It is not just about Donovan though. KD had one shot to play in GS. It was this year or never. Westbrook was due to be a free agent in 2017, so even if KD chose to re-up, there wasn't no guarantee Russ would have chosen the same. It is possible that Russ resigned BECAUSE KD left. He always struck me as the kind of guy who wanted his own team.

THe whole resign for a year thing is great and all, but it would have also closed the window on the one place he wanted to go.

I understand the criticism, but I also think some of you guys are not realizing how complicated this situation really was.

All I have ever seen from RW is his desire to win. He just wants to win like KD, his demeanor is just total opposite of KD.

 

[Shanemansj13]

It is fine to that say now. Maybe OKC fans always felt differently, but perception of the national media was that Russ was likely to leave when he became a FA up until the day KD bolted.

If those two really did get along, why didn't they both sign extensions before FA began? I know the coexisted, but they argued on the court quite a bit. I respect each for keeping their dirty laundry to themselves, but my bet is that they did not like each other all that much when they were teammates despite efforts to show publically that they did.

Relationships matter and I think you guys are downplaying the potential for tension in this one.

Well apparently, KD never told RW about his plans so how is RW supposed to sign an extension with KD if the guy doesn't let him know his plans, that is the part that really got me. I guess it came down to simply RW wanted to be in OKC and KD didn't.

 

[tlance]

You are out of your damn mind as usual. So tex winter gets all the credit in Chicago and LA?

LOL.

No. like I said, Jackson was a great head coach. Perhaps the best ever, but he was not a great X and O guy which is what you are knocking Lue for. Tex Winter was the X and O specialist on their staff, but go ahead and keep thinking Jackson did all the work if you want. One of his greatest talents as a head coach was his ability to delegate important tasks and roles to his talented assistants. Tex Winter ran the Bulls offense. I am shocked that any Bulls fan wouldn't know that.

 

[SJ76]

LOL.

No. like I said, Jackson was a great head coach. Perhaps the best ever, but he was not a great X and O guy which is what you are knocking Lue for. Tex Winter was the X and O specialist on their staff, but go ahead and keep thinking Jackson did all the work if you want. One of his greatest talents as a head coach was his ability to delegate important tasks and roles to his talented assistants. Tex Winter ran the Bulls offense. I am shocked that any Bulls fan wouldn't know that.

Yes Phil Jackson perhaps the greatest coach of all time wasn't an Xs and Os coach.

Got it Wally

I guess being half retarded is better than full blown retarded. So you go boy



Jordan > "Triangle offense"


Triangle offense was overrated. Their defense was not and clutch buckets were not.

 

[SJ76]

Back to Durant

KD left because he's a pussy, wanted an easy ring, and didn't want to play defense.

 

[SJ76]

Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan and the gang would have made my home brewed motion offense the greatest offense of all time.


"Phil and MJ could not have done it without the Xs and Os of Tex Winter"

 

[tlance]

Yes Phil Jackson perhaps the greatest coach of all time wasn't an Xs and Os coach.

Got it Wally

I guess being half retarded is better than full blown retarded. So you go boy



Jordan > "Triangle offense"


Triangle offense was overrated. Their defense was not and clutch buckets were not.

What are you even trying to say? Just being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole?

Quick recap:

1) You were saying Lue did not impress you because he was not a great X and O coach.

2) I said that is funny because Jackson, the greatest coach ever was not a great X and O coach

3) you call me an idiot

4) I reply pointing out that Winter was the man in charge of the offense

5) you throw more insults at me while simultaneously saying that the triangle was overrated and that the Bulls won because of defense, great players and great coaching.

Hello! That was my damn point. Phil's Xs and Os were not what made him great. The Bulls did not win because of Winter's Xs and Os either. Xs and Os are horribly overrated. Many coaches have X and O skills. Phil was uncommonly good because of his people skills, not his Xs and Os which were average at best.

Instead of flying off the handle and assuming you know what I am saying, how about using your brain and actually think about what i am writing?

 

[SJ76]

What are you even trying to say? Just being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole?

Quick recap:

1) You were saying Lue did not impress you because he was not a great X and O coach.

2) I said that is funny because Jackson, the greatest coach ever was not a great X and O coach

3) you call me an idiot

4) I reply pointing out that Winter was the man in charge of the offense

5) you throw more insults at me while simultaneously saying that the triangle was overrated and that the Bulls won because of defense, great players and great coaching.

Hello! That was my damn point. Phil's Xs and Os were not what made him great. The Bulls did not win because of Winter's Xs and Os either. Xs and Os are horribly overrated. Many coaches have X and O skills. Phil was uncommonly good because of his people skills, not his Xs and Os which were average at best.

Instead of flying off the handle and assuming you know what I am saying, how about using your brain and actually think about what i am writing?

At least try to Get it right.

I said Lue didn't do hardly anything. Period. I didn't see a lot from him. Period. Xs Os Ps Qs
Phil Jackson was just fine with the Xs and Os lord man... He sure as hell wasn't bad
I also said u were half retarded. Don't think that's flying off the handle
#4 Jordan was in charge of the offense not tex winter
#5 I think u are a bit dramatic and like to twist things around to make some sort of point - who
Knows wtf or why

 

[SJ76]

No one mentions how much better OKC's defense is without kd.

This is a great point and makes KD look even more like a pussy. Be interesting to see how GS evolves and how good that defense will be. They can outscore people all they want in the regular season, but in the playoffs they are gonna have to get stops.

 

[SJ76]

LOL.

No. like I said, Jackson was a great head coach. Perhaps the best ever, but he was not a great X and O guy which is what you are knocking Lue for. Tex Winter was the X and O specialist on their staff, but go ahead and keep thinking Jackson did all the work if you want. One of his greatest talents as a head coach was his ability to delegate important tasks and roles to his talented assistants. Tex Winter ran the Bulls offense. I am shocked that any Bulls fan wouldn't know that.

Never said Phil did all the work though did I? Goodness. Pretty sure I know what he had on the bench. Man... Just STFU already. That that entire coaching staff was talented. Led by Phil.

You need to read and stop filling in your own blanks

And focus on that 7th grade girls bball team