Who was the best team in 1997/Nebraska or Michigan/Discuss

[bamabear82]

Something along the lines of if it wasn't for Harbaugh there might be one Michigan fan actually in this discussion right now

 

[HuskerinBig10]

So what happens if you hold the team in week 2 to 3 points and that team scores 3 touchdowns against Nebraska? Does that not count either?

Seems that UM holding Colorado to their lowest offensive output (224 total yards) in almost 10 years and only 3 points, while Nebraska gave up 360+ yards passing alone to Colorado and Colorado had the ball with a minute left and a chance to win doesn't count because.......oh yeah, common opponents don't shed a very good light on Nebraska.

Now let's get back to talking abouto how great Nebraska was against the teams UM didn't play and how that makes them the best.

I am not the guy bragging about his team beating a team that went 2-9 and playing the game in Ann Arbor.

I just merely point out that those six opponents that Michigan played that went to bowl games, lost at an average of 30-10. 0-6 in bowl games. Not one of them won. Not even close. Really? All six had a bad day on the same day? Or does that mean those six opponents were probably over-rated? Of the six Michigan opponents that went to a bowl game only two of them ended up being ranked in the final AP poll.

I point out that the same AP poll that ranked Michigan #1 only had three of their opponents in the final rankings, one in the top ten. But that same AP poll had Nebraska with five of their opponents in the final rankings, two of them in the Top Ten. Nebraska's opponents that went to bowl games were 2-2. Of the four Nebraska opponents that went to a bowl game all four of them ended up being ranked in the final AP poll.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Something along the lines of if it wasn't for Harbaugh there might be one Michigan fan actually in this discussion right now

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Something along the lines of if it wasn't for Harbaugh there might be one Michigan fan actually in this discussion right now

There is one -- Me.

It is fun to go back and needle the Nebraska faithful for the going away gift Osborne received.

 

[huskers1217]

Because the transitive property has been proven to be complete BS time and time again when discussing comparable teams?

you mean BYU wouldn't have beaten Michigan St last year?

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I am not the guy bragging about his team beating a team that went 2-9 and playing the game in Ann Arbor.

I just merely point out that those six opponents that Michigan played that went to bowl games, lost at an average of 30-10. 0-6 in bowl games. Not one of them won. Not even close. Really? All six had a bad day on the same day? Or does that mean those six opponents were probably over-rated? Of the six Michigan opponents that went to a bowl game only two of them ended up being ranked in the final AP poll.

I point out that the same AP poll that ranked Michigan #1 only had three of their opponents in the final rankings, one in the top ten. But that same AP poll had Nebraska with five of their opponents in the final rankings, two of them in the Top Ten. Nebraska's opponents that went to bowl games were 2-2. Of the four Nebraska opponents that went to a bowl game all four of them ended up being ranked in the final AP poll.

What is so difficult to grasp? It isn't bragging -- it is pointing out the obvious. Nebraska and Michigan played TWO COMMON OPPONENTS. I couldn't care less about beating Big 12 cupcakes, but those are the two games we have where we can directly look at how each team fared against the same opponent.

You can scream about point differential on the year, but I couldn't care less if you are beating Iowa State and Oklahoma by 60 points. You can scream about how much better your offense was -- yet in two common opponents, UM averaged 32.5 and Nebraska 38. You can scream about your "top 5" defense, yet while Michigan completely shut down Colorado and Baylor -- While Nebraska....................did not.

So get back to the excuses, how Missouri was a road game (even though OSU buried them by 3 tds on the road) and how Colorado was a rivalry game and UM got to play them the first game of the week or whatever excuse.

You know the truth, but the excuses make you feel better, so carry on.

 

[Wamu]

In 1948 the Clemson Tigers finished 11-0. meeeechegan finished 9-0 & got the Natty. Clemson got screwed, discuss.

 

[fishinabarrel]

In 1948 the Clemson Tigers finished 11-0. meeeechegan finished 9-0 & got the Natty. Clemson got screwed, discuss.

Clemson would have beat them in 48 worse than Nebraska would have beaten them in 97. Complete domination

 

[outofyourmind]

In 1948 the Clemson Tigers finished 11-0. meeeechegan finished 9-0 & got the Natty. Clemson got screwed, discuss.

Clemson got Clemsoned
WTF

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

In 1948 the Clemson Tigers finished 11-0. meeeechegan finished 9-0 & got the Natty. Clemson got screwed, discuss.

Only 9 teams were willing to play UM. They didn't want to face a defense that gave up only 4 PPG on the year. Completely understandable.

1948 Michigan also > 1997 Nebraska.

 

[Wamu]

Only 9 teams were willing to play UM. They didn't want to face a defense that gave up only 4 PPG on the year. Completely understandable.

1948 Michigan also > 1997 Nebraska.

The 1902 undefeated meeeechegan wolvereeeens > any other team in CFB history.

 

[huskers1217]

The undefeated 1902 meeeechegan wolvereeeens > any other team in CFB history.

bullshit!!!!

1902 Nebraska didn't let Minnesota score a point and Meatchicken gave up 6

so..Nebraska was better in 1902

SUCK IT MICHIGAN!!!

Date Opponent Site Result Attendance
September 20* Lincoln High Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 27-0 -
September 27 Doane Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 51-0 -
October 4 at Colorado Boulder, Colorado W 10-0 -
October 11 Grinnell Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 17-0 -
October 18 Minnesota Northrop Field • Minneapolis, Minnesota W 6-0 -
October 25 vs. Missouri Saint Joseph, Missouri W 12-0 2,000
November 1 Haskell Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 28-0 6,000
November 8 Kansas Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 16-0 -
November 15 Knox Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 7-0 -
November 27 Northwestern Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 12-0 -

 

[Skerpokes]

Is it just me or are the Michigan posters here doing a great job of proving the OP is correct???

 

[Clayton]

Michigan should've been #1 but Nebraska was the better team and I'd imagine they would win the head to head.

The Mizzou team that should've beaten Nebraska was really good at a couple of things and mediocre/subpar at pretty much everything else. Mizzou was basically like an NCAA tourney team trying to kill clock against a #1 seed. Eventually time would run out on them. The play that Nebraska made was total BS, illegal, and a 1 in 1,000 play but I don't think that changes the dynamics of that matchup and that season in the context of what would happen if Michigan and Nebraska actually played.

 

[006]

bullshit!!!!

1902 Nebraska didn't let Minnesota score a point and Meatchicken gave up 6

so..Nebraska was better in 1902

SUCK IT MICHIGAN!!!

Date Opponent Site Result Attendance
September 20* Lincoln High Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 27-0 -
September 27 Doane Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 51-0 -
October 4 at Colorado Boulder, Colorado W 10-0 -
October 11 Grinnell Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 17-0 -
October 18 Minnesota Northrop Field • Minneapolis, Minnesota W 6-0 -
October 25 vs. Missouri Saint Joseph, Missouri W 12-0 2,000
November 1 Haskell Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 28-0 6,000
November 8 Kansas Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 16-0 -
November 15 Knox Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 7-0 -
November 27 Northwestern Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 12-0 -

Antelope Field > Memorial Stadium

 

[huskers1217]

Antelope Field > Memorial Stadium

I agree

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Is it just me or are the Michigan posters here doing a great job of proving the OP is correct???

It is just you.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

bullshit!!!!

1902 Nebraska didn't let Minnesota score a point and Meatchicken gave up 6

so..Nebraska was better in 1902

SUCK IT MICHIGAN!!!

Date Opponent Site Result Attendance
September 20* Lincoln High Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 27-0 -
September 27 Doane Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 51-0 -
October 4 at Colorado Boulder, Colorado W 10-0 -
October 11 Grinnell Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 17-0 -
October 18 Minnesota Northrop Field • Minneapolis, Minnesota W 6-0 -
October 25 vs. Missouri Saint Joseph, Missouri W 12-0 2,000
November 1 Haskell Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 28-0 6,000
November 8 Kansas Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 16-0 -
November 15 Knox Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 7-0 -
November 27 Northwestern Antelope Field • Lincoln, Nebraska W 12-0 -

I have to give the 1902 nod to Nebraska. What they did to Haskell and Grinnell is unreal!!

 

[HuskerinBig10]

Michigan's Margin of Victory against their three opponents that ended up being ranked in the polls was 25-13. All three of those opponents lost their bowl games.

Michigan's three opponents that ended up being ranked (washington state, Ohio State, Penn State) their average margin of LOSS was 25-12 in their bowl game, 13 points per game was the loss.

Nebraska's margin of victory against the FIVE opponents that ended being ranked was 45-23. Two of Nebraska's opponents won their bowl game.

Nebraska's FIVE opponents that ended up being ranked (Kansas State, Tennessee, washington, Texas A&M, Missouri) their average margin of VICTORY was 30 - 29.4, 0.6 points per game was the victory.

 

[huskers1217]

I have to give the 1902 nod to Nebraska. What they did to Haskell and Grinnell is unreal!!

as far as the Haskell team. they had one of the greatest names in all of football

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