The state of Eli Manning

[Gman]

Eli's not perfect... but he's not the problem.

The problem(s) are:

• O-line
• Injuries
• The running game (caused in large part by O-line)
• and O-line

In no particular order. Everything looks reparable with better health... except O-line. :-(

 

[bt08]

lots of O lines suck around the league these days, makes a QBs job almost damn impossible

 

[Wamu]

no callers. just hosts.

and they were right too.

hard to put a guy like that in the hall. led the NFL in picks (over 20) 3 times. never led in TD's or anything meaningful. was never even considered the best QB in his division (unless by default) let alone of his time. STILL sub 60% completion.

barely above .500 (108-93)

83.7 rating

321 TD's
217 picks

yeah yeah he beat the pats twice. whoopedy doo. other side of the coin is how many 2 time SB MVP's arent in?

Those 2 S.B. losses to Eli really burn you up don't they? I think Eli's a lock of the HOF. Name another QB that has 100+ W's, nearly 50,000 passing yards, 300+ TD's, 8-4 in the playoffs & is a 2x S.B. MVP. I mean Warren Moon (as an example) is in the HOF & here are his #'s: 102-101, 3-7 in the playoffs, 48,325, 291 TD's & 231 int's. Also you mentioned Eli throwing 20 or more picks 3x & leading the league in picks. Moon led the league in picks 2x & 3x he threw @ least 20 picks in a season.

If Eli had won those 2 SB's against anyone other than your team do you still have an issue w/ him?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Those 2 S.B. losses to Eli really burn you up don't they? I think Eli's a lock of the HOF. Name another QB that has 100+ W's, nearly 50,000 passing yards, 300+ TD's, 8-4 in the playoffs & is a 2x S.B. MVP. I mean Warren Moon (as an example) is in the HOF & here are his #'s: 102-101, 3-7 in the playoffs, 48,325, 291 TD's & 231 int's. Also you mentioned Eli throwing 20 or more picks 3x & leading the league in picks. Moon led the league in picks 2x & 3x he threw @ least 20 picks in a season.

If Eli had won those 2 SB's against anyone other than your team do you still have an issue w/ him?

The Tears that still flow in that area is the reason Eli will always be a Goofy God in this area

 

[Manster7588]

Listen I dont care about Eli in the HOF or not, I personally dont think he deserves to be in

But only people that dont know the game would compare Plunkett and Eli's career "because they both have 2 rings"

Eli manning literally TRIPLES some of Jim Plunketts' career numbers

Only people who don't know football think QB numbers today compare with numbers when Plunkett played.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Only people who don't know football think QB numbers today compare with numbers when Plunkett played.

Yeah, Im well aware, youre talking to a guy that doesnt compare Brady to past greats

But at some point, the numbers are so ridiculously different, you cant just chalk it up to "Eras", it becomes more than that

David Woodley isnt better than Aaron Rodgers just because they played in different eras

 

[Wamu]

Yeah, Im well aware, youre talking to a guy that doesnt compare Brady to past greats

But at some point, the numbers are so ridiculously different, you cant just chalk it up to "Eras", it becomes more than that

David Woodley isnt better than Aaron Rodgers just because they played in different eras

To be fair every QB in the history of the NFL sucks except Tom Brady.




fuck meeeechegan!

 

[Manster7588]

Yeah, Im well aware, youre talking to a guy that doesnt compare Brady to past greats

But at some point, the numbers are so ridiculously different, you cant just chalk it up to "Eras", it becomes more than that

David Woodley isnt better than Aaron Rodgers just because they played in different eras

You say you don't compare numbers, right after you conpared numbers. CLASSIC.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

You say you don't compare numbers, right after you conpared numbers. CLASSIC.

Yeah


Just shut up, you're a fucking idiot

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

To be fair every QB in the history of the NFL sucks except Tom Brady.




fuck meeeechegan!

"Jeff Komlo >>>>> Drew Brees"

- Manster

 

[Rock Strongo]

im leaving breadcrumbs everywhere for yam

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

im leaving breadcrumbs everywhere for yam

What happened

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

So this is the thread where we talk about the Cowboys?

Don't know why pretty much the entire team felt they could take a week off here.

They deserve to be humbled like that.

It happens. Remember October 1992? Against the Iggles? That game got built up for two damn weeks when both teams had bye weeks before that epic tilt. And Philly emasculated us 30-7. It wasn't that close either. I'll never forget the steam you could literally see coming off of Jimmy as that game went on.

Now - if they do the same thing next Monday night against the Cardinals... we got a problem!

 

[Rock Strongo]

What happened

i got a couple of texts that im driving him nuts apparently.

he searches for "yam" here a lot im told, so i post "yam" on random threads everywhere.

 

[Manster7588]

Yeah


Just shut up, you're a fucking idiot

Take you advice and shove it up your ass. How many more Giants losses until you run and hide?

 

[jarntt]

One Brandon Marshall will beat yo azz in the parking lot, the other will drive to your house, and beat your women's azz

So far it's close, but the one on the Giants is out catching him 2-0.

 

[jarntt]

Eli's not perfect... but he's not the problem.

The problem(s) are:

• O-line
• Injuries
• The running game (caused in large part by O-line)
• and O-line

In no particular order. Everything looks reparable with better health... except O-line. :-(

hold on...Eli is absolutely part of the problem. The main problem? No, not IMO. I still think Eli is fine at QB, but he needs to be better than he has been lately.

 

[starbigd]

Well I just love how Eli's coach threw him under the bus........CLASSIC. The NY media are going to eat that up for the next several weeks.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Well I just love how Eli's coach threw him under the bus........CLASSIC. The NY media are going to eat that up for the next several weeks.

those savages in that city...

 

[jarntt]

Well I just love how Eli's coach threw him under the bus........CLASSIC. The NY media are going to eat that up for the next several weeks.

Don't expect it to bother Eli. Been there, done that, won SB same year...