Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe deserve to be in the HOF

[GNG]

It is time to induct these two great players.

 

[calsnowskier]

Willing to discuss Jackson.

Rose is still paying his price. The price was determined to be a lifetime ban. There are still a number of payments remaining on that bill.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

I agree with Shoeless Joe, but Pete Rose is banned for life, so he shouldn't get in until he dies. That being said, the steroid freaks should never get in, even after they die.

 

[GNG]

If juicers can be inducted I'm sure Pete & Joe should too.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

If juicers can be inducted I'm sure Pete & Joe should too.

True, Pete deserves to be inducted before the juicers. But rules are rules.

 

[calsnowskier]

Juicing was not against the rules until '01. Betting on the game has been against the rules since the inception of the game.

 

[Davis_Mike]

Pete Rose's ban is a joke. It should be lifted the minute Manfred takes office on January 25th. Unlike Selig, Manfred is not beholden to Fay Vincent.

 

[Davis_Mike]

Juicing was not against the rules until '01. Betting on the game has been against the rules since the inception of the game.

Wrong. Steroids had been part of baseball's banned substance list since 1991.

 

[GNG]

Paul Hornung and Alex Karras are in the NFL HOF despite betting on games as players.

 

[Win TWINS!!!]

It is time to induct these two great players.

If only there were a place where two people could argue this point again, ad nauseum, taking turns and letting the people vote...

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Pete Rose's ban is a joke. It should be lifted the minute Manfred takes office on January 25th. Unlike Selig, Manfred is not beholden to Fay Vincent.

Agreed...As a "player" Rose should go on the HOF ballot. As a manager, he should be scorned for life.

SJJ? He has served his sentence and is MLB lore, put him in now.

 

[calsnowskier]

Wrong. Steroids had been part of baseball's banned substance list since 1991.

But the players were not actually taking steroids. They were taking HGH. And the league refused to test (along with the Union), which was tantamount to saying it was legal.

 

[calsnowskier]

Pete Rose's ban is a joke. It should be lifted the minute Manfred takes office on January 25th. Unlike Selig, Manfred is not beholden to Fay Vincent.

But Pete himself agreed to the ban. It was not simply imposed on him.

 

[broncosmitty]

All Pete's gotta do to get in, is die. And that ain't gonna be anywhere near as hard as getting 4,000 hits.

Shoeless Joe is simply being discriminated for illiteracy at this point.

 

[GNG]

But Pete himself agreed to the ban. It was not simply imposed on him.

Pete didn't have much of a choice.

 

[broncosmitty]

Paul Hornung and Alex Karras are in the NFL HOF despite betting on games as players.

Webster's Dad isn't in the NFL HOF. Neither is Mongo.

And gambling is prolly why. Er maybe it was the drinkin', idk.

 

[GNG]

All Pete's gotta do to get in, is die. And that ain't gonna be anywhere near as hard as getting 4,000 hits.

Shoeless Joe is simply being discriminated for illiteracy at this point.

If he dies he wouldn't get to enjoy his induction.

 

[broncosmitty]

If he dies he wouldn't get to enjoy his induction.

I think that's the point.

Fuck Pete Rose man. Charlie Hustle is a scuzzbag. My life has been better off since I realized that.

 

[GNG]

I think that's the point.

Fuck Pete Rose man. Charlie Hustle is a scuzzbag. My life has been better off since I realized that.

Why so much hate directed at Pete? He didn't give you an autograph when you were a kid?

 

[Cyder]

Not this again