Game Thread: New England Patriots AT Pittsburgh Steelers 425 EST/CBS

[Yo Tee]

Him being touched or not is irrelevant on whether or not it's a catch though.

It was a Touchdown. Plain and simple.

 

[DJ]

That game just showed the Pats aren't unbeatable.....and it's not like the Pats haven't lost at home this season. If I remember right.....they have lost twice at home.

 

[YankeeRebel]

I'm so fucking pissed. That was a fucking catch. He had possession of the ball, knee down, ball crosses the goal line. Play should be dead at that point. Even if it isn't, he wasn't touched. That was a mother fucking touchdown and we got fucking screwed. Typical Patriots win.

It's okay to be wrong and we feel your pain.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

A Pats win in a big game never ends without some controversy
It's sensational

 

[Yo Tee]

Dude... We aren't the first team to get the shaft in this scenario, and we won't be the last. Whichever way you want to see it, the rulebook states someway or another that the receiver has to maintain possession throughout contact with the ground. It is what it is.

Isn't the rule that if the ball crosses the plane of the goal line, the play is dead?


Section 2 Touchdown


TOUCHDOWN PLAYS

Article 1 Touchdown Plays. A touchdown is scored when:


(a) the ball is on, above, or behind the plane of the opponents’ goal line and is in possession of a runner

who has advanced from the field of play; or

(b) a ball in possession of an airborne runner is on, above, or behind the plane of the goal line, and some

part of the ball passed over or inside the pylon;



Jesse James scored a touchdown. The Steelers got completely screwed.

 

[Yo Tee]

It's okay to be wrong and we feel your pain.

We got screwed.

 

[YankeeRebel]

We got screwed.

Yes by the rules the issue is the rule as usual but the correct call was made.

 

[soxfan1468927]

It was a Touchdown. Plain and simple.

You can argue that it wasn't clear enough that he lost possession for them to overturn the call, but all the other stuff you mentioned (knee down, touched, crossed the goal line) is really irrelevant in this rule.

At what point do we have to look at these receivers and tell them that when you are going to ground, secure the ball? The rule has been there, we've seen it called. This isn't like the tuck rule where it had been called just a handful of times before that playoff game.

 

[Yo Tee]

Yes by the rules the issue is the rule as usual but the correct call was made.

Per the rulebook, it was a touchdown.


Section 2 Touchdown


TOUCHDOWN PLAYS

Article 1 Touchdown Plays. A touchdown is scored when:


(a) the ball is on, above, or behind the plane of the opponents’ goal line and is in possession of a runner

who has advanced from the field of play; or

(b) a ball in possession of an airborne runner is on, above, or behind the plane of the goal line, and some

part of the ball passed over or inside the pylon;

 

[soxfan1468927]

Isn't the rule that if the ball crosses the plane of the goal line, the play is dead?


Section 2 Touchdown


TOUCHDOWN PLAYS

Article 1 Touchdown Plays. A touchdown is scored when:


(a) the ball is on, above, or behind the plane of the opponents’ goal line and is in possession of a runner

who has advanced from the field of play; or

(b) a ball in possession of an airborne runner is on, above, or behind the plane of the goal line, and some

part of the ball passed over or inside the pylon;



Jesse James scored a touchdown. The Steelers got completely screwed.

But he's not a runner yet according to the rule.

 

[Yo Tee]

You can argue that it wasn't clear enough that he lost possession for them to overturn the call, but all the other stuff you mentioned (knee down, touched, crossed the goal line) is really irrelevant in this rule.

At what point do we have to look at these receivers and tell them that when you are going to ground, secure the ball? The rule has been there, we've seen it called. This isn't like the tuck rule where it had been called just a handful of times before that playoff game.

Once the ball breaks the plane of the goal line, the play is dead as it is a touchdown. What happens after the ball breaks the goal line happens after the play is dead.

 

[Yo Tee]

But he's not a runner yet according to the rule.

He made a football move, he advanced the ball from the field of play. It's a bullshit call.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Once the ball breaks the plane of the goal line, the play is dead as it is a touchdown. What happens after the ball breaks the goal line happens after the play is dead.

You're wrong on this. That is only the case if the player is a runner.

 

[soxfan1468927]

He made a football move, he advanced the ball from the field of play. It's a bullshit call.

Falling into the end zone is not a football move.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Isn't the rule that if the ball crosses the plane of the goal line, the play is dead?


Section 2 Touchdown


TOUCHDOWN PLAYS

Article 1 Touchdown Plays. A touchdown is scored when:


(a) the ball is on, above, or behind the plane of the opponents’ goal line and is in possession of a runner

who has advanced from the field of play; or

(b) a ball in possession of an airborne runner is on, above, or behind the plane of the goal line, and some

part of the ball passed over or inside the pylon;



Jesse James scored a touchdown. The Steelers got completely screwed.

But that doesn't take into account the "Calvin Johnson Rule" where the receiver has to establish himself as a runner prior to crossing the plane. Jesse James had not established himself as a runner, therefor the ground was a factor. If he had caught the ball, turned, and took 2 or 3 steps, then broke the plain, then yes, it's a touchdown. However, he caught it and went to the the ground breaking the plain but didn't survive the ground I.E. the ball came loose and he lost possession. Not a catch. It's the dumbass Calvin Johnson rule but it's not some new rule they only use for New England's benefit. Many teams go through this every game where it's not a catch.

The Steelers still should've won this game. That last play was on Ben. But there's still something to be said about kicking the FG and going into OT.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

He made a football move, he advanced the ball from the field of play. It's a bullshit call.

Falling to the ground & reaching for the endzone isn't considered a football move.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Once the ball breaks the plane of the goal line, the play is dead as it is a touchdown. What happens after the ball breaks the goal line happens after the play is dead.

Again... Calvin Johnson Rule. Look it up.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Per the rulebook, it was a touchdown.


Section 2 Touchdown


TOUCHDOWN PLAYS

Article 1 Touchdown Plays. A touchdown is scored when:


(a) the ball is on, above, or behind the plane of the opponents’ goal line and is in possession of a runner

who has advanced from the field of play; or

(b) a ball in possession of an airborne runner is on, above, or behind the plane of the goal line, and some

part of the ball passed over or inside the pylon;

Damn dude okay we are all wrong, the league is wrong, the refs are wrong, Blandino is wrong, but you correct. Now please STFU Whiner

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

You can argue that it wasn't clear enough that he lost possession for them to overturn the call, but all the other stuff you mentioned (knee down, touched, crossed the goal line) is really irrelevant in this rule.

At what point do we have to look at these receivers and tell them that when you are going to ground, secure the ball? The rule has been there, we've seen it called. This isn't like the tuck rule where it had been called just a handful of times before that playoff game.

Bingo, thats the part where they say "Its the Pats", cant let them lose

 

[Yo Tee]

SUPPLEMENTAL NOTES


(1) The ball is automatically dead when it is in legal possession of a player and is on, above, or behind

the opponent’s goal line.

How does Jesse James not have possession of the ball?