Main defensive stat

[Manster7588]

Yes this is to settle an argument with dean

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Turnovers have been demonstrated to mostly be noise outside of forced fumbles. A defense like Carolina's with 39 Takeaways is very likely to significantly regress. Dallas (11) is kind of on the opposite side of the spectrum where they could get a pretty healthy bump from turnover regression.

 

[SonnyCID]

Certainly not sacks or yards.

In a vacuum, turnovers. But since it's not a sustainable way to win games, I gotta go with points.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

It's obviously points. Keeping the opponent from scoring takes the pressure of the rest of the team.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

1. points
2. yards
3. TO's
4. Sacks

If your D is giving up the least amount of points, chances are the team will win double digits unless the O is dreadful.

 

[deanpet21]

Yes this is to settle an argument with dean

Not what I said. I said put a poll up on who is the better defense. Redskins or Cowboys.

 

[Manster7588]

Not what I said. I said put a poll up on who is the better defense. Redskins or Cowboys.

When did you say to put up a poll? And did you not throw up fantasy stats to combat points ascacway to rate a defense?

 

[jarntt]

I've always said points, but it's not to the degree that this lopsided poll shows. There are issues with using points: pick sixes, special teams TDs and situations where the defense is given a short field come into play and can skew the results.

 

[jarntt]

But...if we are using points I would like to point out that Dallas gave up less points than Washington the last four years in a row...

 

[Manster7588]

But...if we are using points I would like to point out that Dallas gave up less points than Washington the last four years in a row...

That's probably the reason deanpet got scared and tried to introduce fantasy stats into my proposed bet.

 

[PDay8810]

But...if we are using points I would like to point out that Dallas gave up less points than Washington the last four years in a row...

just don't bet total points allowed with a certain redskin fan

 

[cdumler7]

I've always said points, but it's not to the degree that this lopsided poll shows. There are issues with using points: pick sixes, special teams TDs and situations where the defense is given a short field come into play and can skew the results.

This right here. None of these stats are the end all be all of ways to judge a defense. So much more plays into the overall picture.

 

[Manster7588]

This right here. None of these stats are the end all be all of ways to judge a defense. So much more plays into the overall picture.

But if you were going to place a bet on it what would you use to determine the winner. If you start allowing a bunch of measurables your going to have another TGann meltdown.

 

[cdumler7]

But if you were going to place a bet on it what would you use to determine the winner. If you start allowing a bunch of measurables your going to have another TGann meltdown.

Of those 4 stats yes Points would hold the highest value in my opinion. I get that when you start mixing in more you have issues but there are stats like DVOA that to me show a much bigger picture.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Points points points and points... If they can't score they can't beat you ....

 

[Dude]

By far, it's points allowed for the reasons mentioned. NFL keeps on propping up yards against, as the main stat; does anyone know why?

 

[Dude]

Of course, special teams could give up many points in a given game, but should you pin that on the D?

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Of course, special teams could give up many points in a given game, but should you pin that on the D?

Nah that wouldn't be the D's fault .... Special teams can make or break ya sometimes though for sure...

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Who the hell is Dean?

 

[Manster7588]

Who the hell is Dean?

Deanpet21, he wants to bet fantasy stats.