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should have stuck with baseball.
 

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10 HR (47 RBI) in 51 games is pretty good too.

plus, baseballs money is all guaranteed.

In baseball, it takes you anywhere from six to ten years, for good players, before you start making the good guaranteed money. Basically, your late twenties.

Even if Kyler never signs another NFL contract, he already has $35m plus endorsement money by age twenty five. He would maybe earn 15% of that including his signing bonus, over the same time frame in the MLB.

If you are potentially an NFL first round talent, you would be insane to choose baseball over the NFL to start a career.
 

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In baseball, it takes you anywhere from six to ten years, for good players, before you start making the good guaranteed money. Basically, your late twenties.

Even if Kyler never signs another NFL contract, he already has $35m plus endorsement money by age twenty five. He would maybe earn 15% of that including his signing bonus, over the same time frame in the MLB.

If you are potentially an NFL first round talent, you would be insane to choose baseball over the NFL to start a career.
fair points, but he had 4.6 mil guaranteed by oakland before he even held a baseball for them. he had to return 1.29 of the 1.5mil he got at the time.
baseball, you sign a deal, and go south, you become an albatross, but still get paid. in football, you just get cut. yes, the upfront money, now, is nice. but we also dont know things like endorsement deals as an MLB talent.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/16/kyler-murray-oakland-athletics-bonus-money


oakland also offered him an additonal 14.6 mil. so it would have been 14.6 + 4.6, or 19.2 mil guaranteed, in contracts alone, before he set foot on an MLB diamond. without endorsements, etc.
 

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IDK what kind of MLB prospect he was, but I think the fastest path to the pros and a possible life altering contract was the NFL.
A's offered him a total of 19.6 mil guaranteed over 2 offers, without endorsements, etc added on.
 

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fair points, but he had 4.6 mil guaranteed by oakland before he even held a baseball for them. he had to return 1.29 of the 1.5mil he got at the time.
baseball, you sign a deal, and go south, you become an albatross, but still get paid. in football, you just get cut. yes, the upfront money, now, is nice. but we also dont know things like endorsement deals as an MLB talent.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/16/kyler-murray-oakland-athletics-bonus-money


oakland also offered him an additonal 14.6 mil. so it would have been 14.6 + 4.6, or 19.2 mil guaranteed, in contracts alone, before he set foot on an MLB diamond. without endorsements, etc.

$19.2m < $35M

Baseball bonuses aren't paid out all in one lump sum. They are paid out over a few years. You are also not getting big time money endorsements while toiling in the minors. At best he was looking at making maybe another $100k in total, in baseball salary, over the next three years till he made a an mlb roster. And then unless he was a superstar, it could be 3+ years, depending on service time, at the mlb minimum wage of a little north of $600k a year.

Like I previously said, it would be likely 6+ seasons before he realized that big MLB guaranteed money. The value just isn't the same between the two sports early in those careers.

Even just making a NFL practice squad pays more in one season that does several seasons of MiLB.

Unless you are a superstar, you won't make the same money in baseball as you would just being an average QB in the NFL.
 

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$19.2m < $35M

Baseball bonuses aren't paid out all in one lump sum. They are paid out over a few years. You are also not getting big time money endorsements while toiling in the minors. At best he was looking at making maybe another $100k in total, in baseball salary, over the next three years till he made a an mlb roster. And then unless he was a superstar, it could be 3+ years, depending on service time, at the mlb minimum wage of a little north of $600k a year.

Like I previously said, it would be likely 6+ seasons before he realized that big MLB guaranteed money. The value just isn't the same between the two sports early in those careers.

Even just making a NFL practice squad pays more in one season that does several seasons of MiLB.

Unless you are a superstar, you won't make the same money in baseball as you would just being an average QB in the NFL.
there are a ton of assumptions in there. 1, he plays in the NFL for 6 years. 2, he develops beyond this year (never a give in). 3, that he wouldnt have developed in baseball.
all AZ has to do is cut him and theyre off the hook for future money. MLB? not so much. he could be a chris davis, 1-3 great years, a huge albatross contract, and paid to suck. cutting him has consequences.

this is partly IMO why the NFL needs a cap.

that being said, guys have advanced rapidly before thru the minors, come up, gotten paid, and floundered, while still being paid.

i look at the chris davis thing again. if davis played football, he would have been cut years ago.
 
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