If you're going to recruit in Texas....

[Deep Creek]

It is the off season, so............

If you're going to recruit in Texas ...

 

[Deep Creek]

Since I spent my entire career in Texas, I need to ask you guys from other states a question because of this statement in the article.

"In public schools, the vast majority of our coaches are professional educators," THSCA executive director D.W. Rutledge said. "They have to have a teaching degree. The coaching staff works at the school, so they're around the kids every day ... and in most states that's not the case."

My question is, what licensure/certification, etc does a person have to have in order to coach at the junior high/high school level in other states?

 

[AlaskaGuy]

That one time Jimbo Fisher and Tom Herman met up ...

 

[Olyduck]

Oregon

OSAA - Coaches

 

[Kaplony]

Since I spent my entire career in Texas, I need to ask you guys from other states a question because of this statement in the article.

"In public schools, the vast majority of our coaches are professional educators," THSCA executive director D.W. Rutledge said. "They have to have a teaching degree. The coaching staff works at the school, so they're around the kids every day ... and in most states that's not the case."

My question is, what licensure/certification, etc does a person have to have in order to coach at the junior high/high school level in other states?

I don't know if it's changed because it's been a while since I coaches but South Carolina required the head coach to be a certified teacher. Some assistants could be from the outside and be compensated and any volunteer coaches could be from the outside. We had certifications on coaching ethics, etc. we had to maintain. Usually we did them either in a weekend long class (early on) or an online class (towards the end). Not sure if that was a school district requirement or state level though.

 

[4down20]

When I was in school all the coaches were also teachers and taught other classes. Our QB coach was also a physical science teacher(the easiest of the science classes, but a teacher nonetheless).

 

[006]

You gotta have a fiddle in the band

 

[GoldRusher]

You gotta have a fiddle in the band

That lead crooters hot but not for an Alabama maaaaann..

 

[GoldRusher]

In WV you can get certified to coach at any level but teachers get first crack at a job when it opens up. It’s usually teachers but there are some non teachers that do it.

 

[Tomhusker]

Iowa requires certification to coach in their school system. Certifications are good for 5 years.

 

[Justin Tyme]

When I was in school all the coaches were also teachers and taught other classes. .

Same in Louisiana when I was in HS. My Algebra II teacher was one of of my football coaches. Several years after, he became principal of the HS. Back then teachers were required to have an Education Degree. Don't know about now.

 

[Wild Turkey]

About 10 years ago you had to teach.
Then you just had to have a certificate.
Now I think their are guys that just do football.

They make 6 figures at the big schools also.

 

[NolePride]

I don't know if it's changed because it's been a while since I coaches but South Carolina required the head coach to be a certified teacher. Some assistants could be from the outside and be compensated and any volunteer coaches could be from the outside. We had certifications on coaching ethics, etc. we had to maintain. Usually we did them either in a weekend long class (early on) or an online class (towards the end). Not sure if that was a school district requirement or state level though.

Florida was/is very similar to that.

The Coaches from the outside could be compensated, if there were enough paid slots available,
BUT that meant they could only be paid the coaching supplement...not a teacher's salary. Thus an assistant wasn't
going to be making very much money at all.

The Private school's flourish a great deal using many outsiders.

 

[broncosmitty]

You gotta have a fiddle in the band

Only reason I clicked on this thread, was to post that.

 

[Olyduck]

Oregon

OSAA - Coaches

so my football head coach was a teacher but not all the assistants were.
other sports it wasnt required though a lot of them were.

 

[Kaplony]

Florida was/is very similar to that.

The Coaches from the outside could be compensated, if there were enough paid slots available,
BUT that meant they could only be paid the coaching supplement...not a teacher's salary. Thus an assistant wasn't
going to be making very much money at all.

The Private school's flourish a great deal using many outsiders.

Yeah, the majority of private school coaches I know are not teachers.

 

[Deep Creek]

Soooooooo, I'm assuming in some states there are no specifically required credentials to coach. Surely they have to go through some kind of background check, etc?

Guess that explains some of the points made in the article.

Sounds like college football is heading in the same direction as college basketball...sleeze 2.0. Handlers/AAU coaches/trainers are going to be calling the shots a lot more now than they have in the past. And we in Texas are the last domino to fall.

Well, we're last at a lot of shit anyway. Just add one more.

 

[NolePride]

Soooooooo, I'm assuming in some states there are no specifically required credentials to coach. Surely they have to go through some kind of background check, etc?

Guess that explains some of the points made in the article.

Sounds like college football is heading in the same direction as college basketball...sleeze 2.0. Handlers/AAU coaches/trainers are going to be calling the shots a lot more now than they have in the past. And we in Texas are the last domino to fall.

Well, we're last at a lot of shit anyway. Just add one more.

Yeah, but that has been going on for 25 or 35 years.

Street Agents and they are worthless. But recruiting has demanded that. And it is the coaches
who are behind it.

All Coaches used to have Summer Camps, to help them earn extra money and youngsters
go there and for a week get some valuable technique training from college coaches.
Now that still occurs, but that stuff is specialized into bringing in top recruits for an immediate
look see. Get them on campus. Some grad assist can teach the 7-year old how to get
in a stance and fire out, but the HC and his assist's are recruiting the entire two or three
days those players are there.

They force the kids to specialize, not only in one sport, but one position, at an early age.
They're just cheating themselves, let alone the kid.

7-on-7 tournaments. I have zero problem with those when a school is doing it. Gather the
sklill folks and spend a few weeks in the summer working on routes/defending routes. But
these private teams...fuck that? That's AAU crap. You invite issues with that.

Players moving around. Clermont East Ridge has a 4-star who has committed/decommitted more
times than I take a dump in a week. But it's not surprising. He's been at 4 different High Schools
in 4 years. As a frosh he was at Ocala Vanguard. As a soph, he was at North Marion, which is in
Citra, Fl around 25 miles from Ocala. As a Jr he was back at Vanguard. As a Senior, he was at
Clermont East Ridge. (Clermont is 55 miles from Ocala. I assume he didn't ride a bike to school
he day). Last I heard, he was back considering UF. Everybody wanted him and many got a commit
for a bit.

Clermont ER coach was fired by the County/State at the start of the year for recruiting. They caught
him red-handed. He was out of control. He already had recruited a QB away from a Leesburg
Christain School. Good QB. 3-star, I believe. He was high on Indiana.

This shit is everywhere. No damn wonder they can't control these people. And piss on these college coaches
they are the enablers.

If anybody on this board could get to see a coach and tell him you could get him some good players and then
delivered one or two to him. You'll be financed quite nicely.

It's time for the NCAA to raise the GPA in core courses to receive a scholarship and maintain eligibility.
Then the NFL can develop a minor league because college sports has been taken away from the collegians
and turned over to the thugs.

 

[Across The Field]

In WV you can get certified to coach at any level but teachers get first crack at a job when it opens up. It’s usually teachers but there are some non teachers that do it.

Oddly enough, in WV, you also get first crack at a teaching job once you prove you can spell your name.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

Charlie strong hit the same struggles Jimbo is having by not kissing the ring of the Texas high school coaches. Matt Rhule at Baylor was smart, hired a Texas high school Coach right away to navigate the waters.