George Johnson signs offer sheet

[TrustMeIamRight]

Something else to consider is that he'll factor into the comp formula in our favor if he gets signed away, but I'm not sure how the specifics work on that.

Only problem is..............he doesn't factor into the comp formula, so if we don't match TB, we get nothing for him -- all because the front office were trying to pinch pennies to sign the player who wasn't signing here unless we paid him like a QB.

Good thing we saved that 800k.

 

[Rollingthndr]

DING, DING, DING -- we have a winner.

Stupidity like this is why the Lions will not become a successful franchise until they clean house in the front office. Why in the world put an original round tender? It makes no sense. Cross your fingers and hope no one offers him and if they do, it is less than the 800k difference it would have cost putting a 2nd round tender on him?

You find a guy who has shown to be productive in your system and now, you are going to either pay him more than you would have had to, to keep him, or he walks and we get nothing.

This goes right along with Willie Young walking and putting up 10 sacks for the Bears this past season. Talking about how Suh is coming back, Suh is coming back, Suh is coming back and Suh signs with Miami. Declining Fairley's option, so we lose not one, but both of our 1st round DT picks. And if they had an inkling one or both of these guys were leaving -- they had a replacement handed to them in last year's draft and we pass to draft you know who, while the DT goes on to have a monster season.

So frustrating to watch how our front office works.

Pretty rude to talk about a front office that drafted the 2nd best offensive player in the draft for you to enjoy watching last season.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Pretty rude to talk about a front office that drafted the 2nd best offensive player in the draft for you to enjoy watching last season.

Yeah -- where would the Lions be without Ebron. He practically put the team on his back last year and willed them to the playoffs.

 

[RobBase]

Yeah -- where would the Lions be without Ebron. He practically put the team on his back last year and willed them to the playoffs.

What do you expect from the worst GM in the NFL by a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide margin?

 

[gandydancer]

I don't think he played for Chicago, did he?

I thought he was a Bucs/ Vikes project castoff guy? Prolly wrong, I thought he came from regime before Lovie in Tampa.

 

[jayfan]

It's a 3 yr., $9 mil offer, and the Lions probably aren't going to match it. Not based on their $1.5 mil tender a few weeks ago, anyway. That will make 15.5 sacks gone from last season.

 

[RobBase]

It's a 3 yr., $9 mil offer, and the Lions probably aren't going to match it. Not based on their $1.5 mil tender a few weeks ago, anyway. That will make 15.5 sacks gone from last season.

It's fine. Ebron just got his Mohawk bleached for the new season.

 

[TBBishop]

DING, DING, DING -- we have a winner.

Stupidity like this is why the Lions will not become a successful franchise until they clean house in the front office. Why in the world put an original round tender? It makes no sense. Cross your fingers and hope no one offers him and if they do, it is less than the 800k difference it would have cost putting a 2nd round tender on him?

You find a guy who has shown to be productive in your system and now, you are going to either pay him more than you would have had to, to keep him, or he walks and we get nothing.

This goes right along with Willie Young walking and putting up 10 sacks for the Bears this past season. Talking about how Suh is coming back, Suh is coming back, Suh is coming back and Suh signs with Miami. Declining Fairley's option, so we lose not one, but both of our 1st round DT picks. And if they had an inkling one or both of these guys were leaving -- they had a replacement handed to them in last year's draft and we pass to draft you know who, while the DT goes on to have a monster season.

So frustrating to watch how our front office works.

The $1.5 or whatever they tendered him at may be too much. He was basically garbage until last year and after one good season you want to throw $2.5 at him? Our 3rd DE? I wouldn't bet that he lives up to that contract. I would also bet the same people saying the brass is stupid for not giving him a second round tender or not matching the Bucs' offer would be the same people blasting Mayhew/Lewand if they HAD tendered him and paid him $2.5 million. Just a hunch. I'll say again, these teams we're chasing, the teams that I've seen people on here say we need to be like, the Packers, the Patriots, the Ravens, those teams offer George Johnson that $1.5 mil and if he doesn't take it they tell him beat fucking rocks!

 

[TBBishop]

I thought he was a Bucs/ Vikes project castoff guy? Prolly wrong, I thought he came from regime before Lovie in Tampa.

Yea, Lovie was with the Bucs while Johnson was with the Lions. I think Coach Chest Bump Raheem Morris was in Tampa with Johnson.

 

[gvsulaker82]

Hope the lions dont match it. Johnson knows what hes doing. He was a product of suh and now he will be a product of mccoy. I could probably sack the qb a few times when the guy next to me is consistently tag teamed.

 

[jayfan]

Hope the lions dont match it. Johnson knows what hes doing. He was a product of suh and now he will be a product of mccoy. I could probably sack the qb a few times when the guy next to me is consistently tag teamed.

Well then I guess that doesn't say much about our 2 starting DE's, does it? Despite playing many more snaps than Johnson, they managed only 2 more sacks, and 1 fewer sack, than Johnson respectively.

 

[tpaulus_2]

Well then I guess that doesn't say much about our 2 starting DE's, does it? Despite playing many more snaps than Johnson, they managed only 2 more sacks, and 1 fewer sack, than Johnson respectively.

That's an uninformed assessment of what are DEs are asked to do, imo.

Ansah was a pressure monster- his sack numbers weren't off the charts, but he had a ton of hurries and graded out as top-10 at his position.

Jones is asked to two-gap a lot to help free up the DT next to him on the interior rush. Most of his pass-rushing opportunities came when he was lined up as a DT on passing downs.

There's a helluva lot more to assessing a DE than his sack totals...

 

[jayfan]

That's an uninformed assessment of what are DEs are asked to do, imo.

Ansah was a pressure monster- his sack numbers weren't off the charts, but he had a ton of hurries and graded out as top-10 at his position.

Jones is asked to two-gap a lot to help free up the DT next to him on the interior rush. Most of his pass-rushing opportunities came when he was lined up as a DT on passing downs.

There's a helluva lot more to assessing a DE than his sack totals...

I wasn't giving an overall assessment. I was responding to someone else's post about DE's getting easy sacks playing next to Suh. Thanks for your always welcomed input, anyways.

 

[Quackerjacked]

I don't think that Johnson is that good of a player. He was a good pass rushing specialist, but he is not a big loss.

 

[jdwills126]

No team would give up a 2nd rounder for a journey men DE. That 800k might as well been 800 million. I guess the Lions were hoping no team would put up a better offer. But between Tapp, Taylor, and Webster the Lions should be able to have a good rotation. My question is if no team signed him and he took the qualifying offer who gets let go?

 

[Quackerjacked]

My guess is Tapp would be the odd man out, unless Webster is a bust.

 

[tpaulus_2]

I wasn't giving an overall assessment. I was responding to someone else's post about DE's getting easy sacks playing next to Suh. Thanks for your always welcomed input, anyways.

Am I not allowed to give input on your posts? You gave input on his post. What's up with that?

Sorry if I hurt your feeling, though. Seems to be a lot of posters here that only want to give their two cents, but sure as hell don't want anyone to offer any counter-arguments on it...

 

[tpaulus_2]

My guess is Tapp would be the odd man out, unless Webster is a bust.

We carried all 6 last year, but that was with Webster basically serving as a red-shirt. I'd agree that Tapp would have been the one to be sacrificed...

 

[Old Lion]

I like Johnson. I am happy for him. I cant see spending 3 mil a year at this point on him though. We have too much talent at DE and like I said before more 3-4 formations coming this year. Don't care if the coaches deny it. Everything they have done so far this offseason screams it.

 

[Old Lion]

Here is another reason why they most likely wont match. They are definitely drafting at least 1 DL if not 2. Guys like this are more what they are looking for.

Lions host Arizona State DT Marcus Hardison