Series Thread: Darvish-less (?) Rangers host the Orioles, 7/28-7/30

[Bmurph]

 

[Bmurph]

I HAVE TO SAY A BIG HELL YEAH TO THIS

 

[Duane1952]

For a rental?

The Cubs gave up 4 players for Chapman last year. One of them was the shortstop a Torres, a top prospect.

 

[saddles]

I want him as much as any pitcher.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

The Cubs gave up 4 players for Chapman last year. One of them was the shortstop a Torres, a top prospect.

Were any of them top pitching prospects? That's key.

 

[Bmurph]

 

[donaldson79]

For a rental?

Absolutely.....If you're trying to win this season and you think you're ace in going to be out for 4-6 weeks, then either push your chips in or else IMO.

You want quality, ya gotta give up some too.

 

[donaldson79]

I heard Mike Bacsik yapping today about how the Rangers should trade both Yu and Hamels.

And his rationale was, "this area has never supported the Rangers when they didn't win." Is it just me or is this pure horseshit?

 

[Bmurph]

I heard Mike Bacsik yapping today about how the Rangers should trade both Yu and Hamels.

And his rationale was, "this area has never supported the Rangers when they didn't win." Is it just me or is this pure horseshit?

Mike is a fuckstick that says some dumb shit a lot

 

[donaldson79]

Mike is a fuckstick that says some dumb shit a lot

Agreed. My recollection is our metro area has shown up even when we were terrible. I bet we've supported this franchise better in the bad times than 90% of the other teams. And I don't know why I let that rile me up so much, but it sure as hell did.

Also, this from FanGraphs Jeff Sullivan on who'd be his #1 target for a trade.

1. RHP Yu Darvish, Texas Rangers: Recent reports have said Darvish isn't available. Other recent reports have said Darvish isavailable. So, you know, who knows? Every single Rangers win or loss makes a difference in these negotiations. Where there isn't much of any uncertainty is where Darvish comes in. He's an ace, and when he's working, he's one of the most unhittable starting pitchers on the planet. That doesn't mean he's immune to moments when he's fighting his own command. Darvish isn't perfect. But he still has that enviable repertoire, and every team loves a power starter who's good for three trips through the order. Darvish has even historically buckled down with runners on base, preventing further runs from coming around. It's easy to understand why the Rangers might want to see Darvish's season through. It's also easy to understand how they could end up convinced to make a trade. This is the one starter out there with the fewest question marks.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Absolutely.....If you're trying to win this season and you think you're ace in going to be out for 4-6 weeks, then either push your chips in or else IMO.

You want quality, ya gotta give up some too.

true, but the Dodgers aren't going to give up a top pitching prospect AND a top centerfielder.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

MLB reports Darvish on the block with the Yankees. May be wearing new uni soon.

The best deal for our beloved Rangers is to shop Darvish with a team deep in SP talent. Don't know if that exists but thinking the Dodgers may be deeper than the Yankees. The Yankees don't develop SP talent. They buy it and any pitching prospects they get usually come up as relievers.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

And we may not. I wouldn't trade if JD doesn't get what he wants. What he's not happy with. I expect a very good pitching prospect coming our way. If not, don't do it.

Yes it has to be a last minute 'the other team' front office with sweaty palms giving us what we want. Kind of like we got took for Hamels.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

With Price going on the DL, Boston may get into this.

Dodgers are an interesting situation. Kershaw is probably out until right before the playoffs, they have a 12 or so game lead in the division and best MLB record (last I checked). If Hill goes down again for a sore shoulder or blisters then they have to dig into their farm for help. Or just give JD what he wants for Yu.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

I know it's still ( early) in the deadline, but if the dodgers don't put up a really good pitching prospect then that is ridiculous.

Probably why the Dodgers are not biting yet. They probably offered Puig. LOL.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

Absolutely.....If you're trying to win this season and you think you're ace in going to be out for 4-6 weeks, then either push your chips in or else IMO.

You want quality, ya gotta give up some too.

LAD are looking at their big 12+ game lead in the division. That can evaporate in August and September. Just ask Terry Francona whose Red Sox went from leading 9 games over the Rays in the WC race to miss the post season in 2011.

 

[romeo212000]

LAD are looking at their big 12+ game lead in the division. That can evaporate in August and September. Just ask Terry Francona whose Red Sox went from leading 9 games over the Rays in the WC race to miss the post season in 2011.

Fuck, ask us in 2012.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Fuck, ask us in 2012.

5 game lead with 9 to play....

 

[saddles]

I heard Mike Bacsik yapping today about how the Rangers should trade both Yu and Hamels.

And his rationale was, "this area has never supported the Rangers when they didn't win." Is it just me or is this pure horseshit?

That is nonsense. I have no problem with the idea of trading Hamels, but it has nothing to do with fan support.

 

[DT LUNA]

That is nonsense. I have no problem with the idea of trading Hamels, but it has nothing to do with fan support.

Hope they do. Darvish will not bring back enough alone. The more we sell. the more coming back. Too quite to suit me. Hoping Lucroy and Napoli go as well.