A Dream "fight" might take place at Wrestle Maina 32

[wazzu31]

A Neville Brock match would make more sense. At least Neville could hold his own in a legitimate fight against WWE fans, Owens even stunning Lesnar is so far out the realm of possibility. Still not sure how anyone thinks he has main event talent, he's Mick Foley with no wow factor.

 

[SteelersPride]

Nothing like scripted acting

 

[Tubbs1518]

A Neville Brock match would make more sense. At least Neville could hold his own in a legitimate fight against WWE fans, Owens even stunning Lesnar is so far out the realm of possibility. Still not sure how anyone thinks he has main event talent, he's Mick Foley with no wow factor.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA dumbest post of the year winner.

 

[wazzu31]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA dumbest post of the year winner.

And ya you're right. Comparing him to Foley was an insult, Owens has the talent of the Brooklyn Brawler. You seem so infatuated with him because he is fat and doesn't tire out in a match.

 

[jeffro151]

You think people are going to remember that 3 months down the road? Doubtful.




You two are ridiculous. If that is really what you judge wrestlers by, you have serious issues. Try actually watching the product, watching him wrestle in the ring, watch EVERYONE ELSE (not as heels/faces, as PERFORMERS), and then come back to me. I understand you don't like him and everyone has an opinion...but your opinions are HEAVILY outweighed by basically 95% of the internet's opinions and people who have actually watched him wrestle in 5-star matches THAT HE CARRIED. You do know he wrestled outside of WWE, right?

 

[Tubbs1518]

And ya you're right. Comparing him to Foley was an insult, Owens has the talent of the Brooklyn Brawler. You seem so infatuated with him because he is fat and doesn't tire out in a match.

I seem infatuated, like you know 95% of the world, with a wrestler who is fantastic in the ring, does good promos and is one of the best talents in WWE. You are probably one of those guys who agrees with Vince who thinks all wrestlers and champs should look like John Cena or Brock Lesner. It's fucking moronic. If you can't see how much talent Owens has, you should just quit watching wrestling all together.

 

[futballiscool]

Well they already ruled out the Rock, do we really want another part time wrestler headlining WM? That is part of the problem with the WWE now. They keep just using part timers in the biggest shows. It is a terrible way to run a business. If you build Owens up till WM, him going toe to toe with Lesnar can give them the top heel they really need because right now, it's Sheamus. If you don't make others look strong against Lesnar, why isn't he WWE champion and never lose it? It makes no sense. If Owens can't beat Lesnar, there should be no way Rollins can. Hell you leave yourself with the Championship being passed back and forth between Cena, Reigns and Lesnar. No one else can realistically beat him.

Rollins won the title by cashing in and pinning Reigns. They made it evident that Rollins can't get a clean pin on Lesnar. With Lesnar ending the streak, squashing Cena, dominating Reigns etc he needs to be protected much as possible so when he finally does take a clean loss it'll be like Hogan beating Andre at WM3. Otherwise everything they've done with Lesnar the last 2 yrs was a waste. He can't get taken to the limit to someone who just took a clean a loss to Finn Balor

 

[futballiscool]

You think people are going to remember that 3 months down the road? Doubtful.

People aren't going to remember Owens looking like a mid carder on the main roster other than his debut match while Lesnar has been turned into a force of nature? Not sure about that.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Rollins won the title by cashing in and pinning Reigns. They made it evident that Rollins can't get a clean pin on Lesnar. With Lesnar ending the streak, squashing Cena, dominating Reigns etc he needs to be protected much as possible so when he finally does take a clean loss it'll be like Hogan beating Andre at WM3. Otherwise everything they've done with Lesnar the last 2 yrs was a waste. He can't get taken to the limit to someone who just took a clean a loss to Finn Balor

In 5 months, no one will even be talking about any of that. Letting Lesnar fight a part timer who won't be around wrestling doesn't help WWE at all going forward. They need to do something big to help going forward to help with ratings. Giving someone a big boost is the smartest thing they can do.

 

[Tubbs1518]

People aren't going to remember Owens looking like a mid carder on the main roster other than his debut match while Lesnar has been turned into a force of nature? Not sure about that.

No if Owens is booked really well going forward, no one will question him going toe to toe with Lesnar. No one smart anyways.

 

[ManuForever]

People aren't going to remember Owens looking like a mid carder on the main roster other than his debut match while Lesnar has been turned into a force of nature? Not sure about that.

You act like they don't have 3 months to make this feud happen. That's a lot of time, just in case you weren't sure.

 

[ManuForever]

I seem infatuated, like you know 95% of the world, with a wrestler who is fantastic in the ring, does good promos and is one of the best talents in WWE. You are probably one of those guys who agrees with Vince who thinks all wrestlers and champs should look like John Cena or Brock Lesner. It's fucking moronic. If you can't see how much talent Owens has, you should just quit watching wrestling all together.

That post that you quoted has such a low IQ that I'm surprised you took time to respond to it.

 

[futballiscool]

No if Owens is booked really well going forward, no one will question him going toe to toe with Lesnar. No one smart anyways.

You act like they don't have 3 months to make this feud happen. That's a lot of time, just in case you weren't sure.

What can they do in 2 months to make Owens seem ready for Lesnar for the start of a WM feud with Lesnar? Have him toss out 20 guys in the Rumble? Beat Reigns?

How about he has a 5 star classic with Balor, or Zayn or Bryan at this WM and then you spend the next year getting him ready for a true main event

 

[wazzu31]

I seem infatuated, like you know 95% of the world, with a wrestler who is fantastic in the ring, does good promos and is one of the best talents in WWE. You are probably one of those guys who agrees with Vince who thinks all wrestlers and champs should look like John Cena or Brock Lesner. It's fucking moronic. If you can't see how much talent Owens has, you should just quit watching wrestling all together.

If 95% of the world thought Owens was entertaining then the WWE would have ratings. What does he do in the ring that is so special besides not tiring out? His mic skills are objective unlike Punk. Owens mic skills consist of him playing an unbelievable role, he can't be a bully because he wouldn't even be tough guy in a bar, I'm not saying every wrestler needs to be jacked like Cena but the minimum I'd ask is they entertain me. If Owens was so talented he could carry a match, Punk could carry a match against a Ryback, Owens helped make that match a hot pile of shit. Owens is going to be a big deal with the WWE so don't worry since they already pipe in chants for him.

 

[Tubbs1518]

That post that you quoted has such a low IQ that I'm surprised you took time to respond to it.

It honestly just epitomizes what is wrong with wrestling. They think like Vince does. It's the reason it took Daniel Bryan so long and so much to win the belts. Many many people wanted to see Bryan/Lesner, but they would have hated that because there's no chance Bryan could have realistically beat Lesner, Lesner should squash him in no time. That match, however, would have been one of the best matches that could happen and would have been a match that would have been highly viewed. People have to narrow of views on wrestling.

 

[Tubbs1518]

What can they do in 2 months to make Owens seem ready for Lesnar for the start of a WM feud with Lesnar? Have him toss out 20 guys in the Rumble? Beat Reigns?

How about he has a 5 star classic with Balor, or Zayn or Bryan at this WM and then you spend the next year getting him ready for a true main event

Because that leaves Lesnar wrestling a part timer which does absolutely nothing for WWE going forward. This is about WWE, more than Lesnars ego or whatever you are trying to protect.

 

[Tubbs1518]

If 95% of the world thought Owens was entertaining then the WWE would have ratings. What does he do in the ring that is so special besides not tiring out? His mic skills are objective unlike Punk. Owens mic skills consist of him playing an unbelievable role, he can't be a bully because he wouldn't even be tough guy in a bar, I'm not saying every wrestler needs to be jacked like Cena but the minimum I'd ask is they entertain me. If Owens was so talented he could carry a match, Punk could carry a match against a Ryback, Owens helped make that match a hot pile of shit. Owens is going to be a big deal with the WWE so don't worry since they already pipe in chants for him.

Lol this just proves how little you truly know about wrestling. Honestly I'm done with even discussing WWE with you because you know so little about it.

 

[futballiscool]

Because that leaves Lesnar wrestling a part timer which does absolutely nothing for WWE going forward. This is about WWE, more than Lesnars ego or whatever you are trying to protect.

You're right. Owens should stand toe to toe with Lesnar, Maybe they can get the Undertaker to put over Luke Harper because he's a good wrestler too. The Rock can come back and lose to Neville. Or.. they can get behind a handful of wrestlers and book them like stars and then have them ready to get a main event push. Then if they get a win or a strong performance against a legend it will actually mean something. wrestling is fake but there still needs to be an internal logic to what happens in the ring. You can't be a credible opponent for Lesnar when you're losing clean to Ambrose.
Booking Lesnar as an unstoppable force was the best thing they've done in years. It has noting to do with his ego.He's a legitimate athlete . I don't think he cares about wrestling other than as a paycheck. But he should be protected so when he finally losses it'll be like when he beat UT at WM or when Hogan beat Andre.

 

[Tubbs1518]

You're right. Owens should stand toe to toe with Lesnar, Maybe they can get the Undertaker to put over Luke Harper because he's a good wrestler too. The Rock can come back and lose to Neville. Or.. they can get behind a handful of wrestlers and book them like stars and then have them ready to get a main event push. Then if they get a win or a strong performance against a legend it will actually mean something. wrestling is fake but there still needs to be an internal logic to what happens in the ring. You can't be a credible opponent for Lesnar when you're losing clean to Ambrose.
Booking Lesnar as an unstoppable force was the best thing they've done in years. It has noting to do with his ego.He's a legitimate athlete . I don't think he cares about wrestling other than as a paycheck. But he should be protected so when he finally losses it'll be like when he beat UT at WM or when Hogan beat Andre.

Yep the declining ratings while Lesnar has been this animal seem to really be helping WWE, especially when Lesnar isn't around 50-60% of the time anyways. They need other guys to be pushed big time. I think Undertaker should have lost to Wyatt. WWE keeps spending all this time pushing their part time guys that the legit talent that is on the roster 365 keeps getting buried. Let's not forget that is the reason Punk left and WWE has gotten no better about it. Pushing Undertaker, Lesnar, Rock, ect does not help WWE long term and that is what they better be worried about now.

 

[futballiscool]

Yep the declining ratings while Lesnar has been this animal seem to really be helping WWE, especially when Lesnar isn't around 50-60% of the time anyways. They need other guys to be pushed big time. I think Undertaker should have lost to Wyatt. WWE keeps spending all this time pushing their part time guys that the legit talent that is on the roster 365 keeps getting buried. Let's not forget that is the reason Punk left and WWE has gotten no better about it. Pushing Undertaker, Lesnar, Rock, ect does not help WWE long term and that is what they better be worried about now.

The ratings suck and they need to build new stars. That's obvious. The disagreement here is how Lesnar and part timers fit into it. A match with Lesnar shouldn't be the start of someone's push with 3 months of booking behind it.It should be the culmination of a year or more of strong booking to have someone ready to be a maineventer for the next 10 years when it's over. It should be a huge deal when it happens. It's not going to mean anything if a midcarder who losses clean at every other PPV takes him to the limit.

In the mid 90s when the the WWF was getting killed in the ratings it didn't change over night. Nobody was hotshoted into being the next Hogan.. they singled out their best talent, built the show around them.. it was a process. Steve Austin wasn't the ring master one day and the champion a month later. That wouldn't have made sense