2021 Trade Deadline

[msgkings322]

The Nationals. Those guys are sellers for sure.

So it's gotta be asked: what would you give up for Scherzer (and be realistic). That's kind of EXACTLY what we need for the playoffs, maybe even more than a closer. With Gausman shaky we could use a horse.

 

[calsnowskier]

The Nationals. Those guys are sellers for sure.

So it's gotta be asked: what would you give up for Scherzer (and be realistic). That's kind of EXACTLY what we need for the playoffs, maybe even more than a closer. With Gausman shaky we could use a horse.

I would not be apposed to a Scherzer / Bart basic deal. They would need to send some money, and maybe a lotto ticket or two, but I think that makes sense.

The argument could be made that Bart isn’t even our top catcher prospect anymore. He might actually be our #3 catcher prospect.

 

[LHG]

The Nationals. Those guys are sellers for sure.

So it's gotta be asked: what would you give up for Scherzer (and be realistic). That's kind of EXACTLY what we need for the playoffs, maybe even more than a closer. With Gausman shaky we could use a horse.

He was pulled from his scheduled start today. Not sure why, but that cannot be good during the trade deadline. He's going to cost a lot!

 

[LHG]

I would not be applied to a Scherzer / Bart basic deal. They would need to send some money, and maybe a lotto ticket or two, but I think that makes sense.

The argument could be made that Bart isn’t even our top catcher prospect anymore. He might actually be our #3 catcher prospect.

Bailey hasn't really gotten his professional legs sturdy yet. Who would you rate #2, if you count Bailey #1 (or vice versa)?

 

[calsnowskier]

Bailey hasn't really gotten his professional legs sturdy yet. Who would you rate #2, if you count Bailey #1 (or vice versa)?

I think Genoves has probably passed by both Bailey and Bart. I am not certain Bailey has passed Bart (he probably hasn’t due to his troubles and the fact that Bart has pretty much secured his place as AT LEAST a journeyman catcher).

 

[LHG]

I think Genoves has probably passed by both Bailey and Bart. I am not certain Bailey has passed Bart (he probably hasn’t due to his troubles and the fact that Bart has pretty much secured his place as AT LEAST a journeyman catcher).

I'm not ready to make Bailey anything more than the #3 rated catching prospect right now. He's yet to hit anywhere professionally. Until he does, he will be unlikely to get more than a cup of coffee in the big leagues, at best.
Genoves, to me, has been a sleeper prospect. He was solid in 2019 with Salem-Keizer and hit well with San Jose. He's struggling a bit, so far, with Eugene. I'd be okay with him as the #2 rated prospect.
Bart is only two years older than both Genoves and Bailey (Genoves is actually slightly younger than Bailey) and has hit at level but the big leagues. I'd still rank him #1.

 

[calsnowskier]

I'm not ready to make Bailey anything more than the #3 rated catching prospect right now. He's yet to hit anywhere professionally. Until he does, he will be unlikely to get more than a cup of coffee in the big leagues, at best.
Genoves, to me, has been a sleeper prospect. He was solid in 2019 with Salem-Keizer and hit well with San Jose. He's struggling a bit, so far, with Eugene. I'd be okay with him as the #2 rated prospect.
Bart is only two years older than both Genoves and Bailey (Genoves is actually slightly younger than Bailey) and has hit at level but the big leagues. I'd still rank him #1.

I have heard “people in the know” RAVE about Genoves, though. It isn’t MY read on him that makes me think he has possibly passed up Bart.

Either way, Bart is not FZ’s, so he gets no benefit of the doubt. And with 2 more solid prospects coming up right behind him, and with Posey’s apparent resurgence, I think Bart is expendable.

 

[LHG]

I have heard “people in the know” RAVE about Genoves, though. It isn’t MY read on him that makes me think he has possibly passed up Bart.

Either way, Bart is not FZ’s, so he gets no benefit of the doubt. And with 2 more solid prospects coming up right behind him, and with Posey’s apparent resurgence, I think Bart is expendable.

I forgot that Bart wasn't an FZ pick. That does change things, in terms of how he will be valued. And Posey's resurgence does play a large part on how Bart is viewed too. However, I do wish both the Giants and Posey would seriously work toward a move to 1st base for Posey in 2022, especially if Belt goes elsewhere. Then keep Bart to pair with Casali to form the new catching tandem. But I understand that prospects will be dealt in the next few days. Just hate it when it happens.

 

[calsnowskier]

I forgot that Bart wasn't an FZ pick. That does change things, in terms of how he will be valued. And Posey's resurgence does play a large part on how Bart is viewed too. However, I do wish both the Giants and Posey would seriously work toward a move to 1st base for Posey in 2022, especially if Belt goes elsewhere. Then keep Bart to pair with Casali to form the new catching tandem. But I understand that prospects will be dealt in the next few days. Just hate it when it happens.

And if we are able to add Scherzer to the top of this rotation (and add Wood or Webb to the bully), it might actually be worth it.

 

[msgkings322]

And if we are able to add Scherzer to the top of this rotation (and add Wood or Webb to the bully), it might actually be worth it.

It's probably gonna take more than Bart but I agree he is expendable

 

[BigKen]

Nationals are asking for a lot. Red Sox have been talking to them for at least the past two weeks about Scherzer and they want the kid that just came up to the bigs, Juran and another top prospect. Ain't gonna happen.

 

[tzill]

I would not be apposed to a Scherzer / Bart basic deal. They would need to send some money, and maybe a lotto ticket or two, but I think that makes sense.

The argument could be made that Bart isn’t even our top catcher prospect anymore. He might actually be our #3 catcher prospect.

We reaquired the Sac??

 

[calsnowskier]

We reaquired the Sac??

We couldn’t afford him.

 

[jeep99tj]

Frazier to the Padres

 

[msgkings322]

Frazier to the Padres

He's still playing for the Pirates right in front of me LOL

 

[jeep99tj]

He's still playing for the Pirates right in front of me LOL

Replaced by Difo. Just went down about 5 minutes ago

 

[Stokes1931]

Replaced by Difo. Just went down about 5 minutes ago

Report: Padres trade for Frazier during Giants-Pirates game

The Padres made a big splash Sunday, reportedly acquiring Adam Frazier from the Pirates.

www.nbcsports.com

To get Frazier, the Padres didn't give up any of their top four prospects. Infielder Tucupita Marcano is the team's fifth prospect, he'll head to Pittsburgh along with Jack Suwinski and Michell Milano. (per sources)

 

[pachyderm]

IMHO we are ok on position players, mostly anyway barring anymore injuries, so BP or SP should be our targets.

Hopefully we can avoid dealing any top 5 prospects.

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[msgkings322]

IMHO we are ok on position players, mostly anyway barring anymore injuries, so BP or SP should be our targets.

Hopefully we can avoid dealing any top 5 prospects.

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Deals are happening, hope we get a couple arms. A's got a nice reliever from the Cubs.

 

[LHG]

Deals are happening, hope we get a couple arms. A's got a nice reliever from the Cubs.

Chafin would have been a reliever I would have liked to see the Giants get. There are a couple others on the Cubs, besides Kimbrel, that seem like interesting pickups - Ryan Tepera and Dan Winkler. However, Winkler would feel strange getting, primarily because FZ dumped him a couple years ago, without giving him a chance. He was doing well that year in AAA too, and he didn't get a look.