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And fair enough. :yo: I've simply heard that argument before, so I thought that was where you were going. Mea culpa. :yo:

Fair enough, which I got what you were getting at. So my point remains. Yeah, Leaf bombed in the NFL.........so what? Remember, there was real discussion whether or not Leaf would be drafted ahead of Payton Manning. Meaning what Leaf had done to that point, in college, was equivalent to...

What about them (which I think you meant Washington STATE)? They were the Pac-10 champs, and had one of the best quarterbacks in college that season (yeah I know, Ryan Leaf was an NFL bust, but says nothing about his college career, because the NFL is a different animal).

It's simple really, not only did Michigan have the harder strength of schedule: College Football 1997 Ranking of Schedule 38th as opposed to 48th There was one common opponent, Colorado. Whom Michigan manhandled 27-3, while Nebraska squeaked by 27-24. So clearly Michigan should be considered...

Yup! :thumb: Between that, and the fact they squeaked by a 3-9 MSU, a team that Penn St. crushed the following week, and needed overtime against Wisconsin (which I will granted them Camp Randall at night is tough), which....... At this point my rooting is: Washington to finish this beat-down...

The gif was fine, the situation it depicts is not. Kinda thought that would be mixed signal, but I was face-palming the officiating. I'd say we have more than a good chance against FSU! :suds: If we bring our A-game, and the officials aren't out to screw us, only Ohio St., Clemson, and...

Was kinda thinking the same thing. One legit thing from The Game was that the Nutz exposed what was really a concern all season long, the O-line. And Alabama's defense would feast on that! Now, our defense would keep us in the game, but at the end of the day, I wouldn't like our chances...

Yeah, sorry if there was confusion. I was going with the scenario described in the OP.

Which let's remember why the lost their QB, because they couldn't stop the Michigan D-line for beating the shit out of him, :thumb:

Really, why? They definitely would be favored over Va. Tech. It would be close over Colorado, but......they played Michigan tighter, have better win, and play in a better conference. It would also be close over Oklahoma, but.....they played Ohio St. tighter and play in a better conference.

I agree it's not likely, because the Pac-12, ACC, and Big 12 will scream bloody murder. But........if we are being honest, that's what should happen in that scenario.

Alabama is getting in no matter what. The only question if that chaos happens is will the politics of the committee allow 3 teams from the Big Ten or not. Because Wisconsin would be favored over the remaining 3 Power 5 champs, and Michigan and Ohio St. are unequivocally better than Virginia...

A motivated Harbaugh and team hungry to right this injustice, with a healthy (:hope:) and more developed Speight, better O-line, a defense that will at worst take a small step back from being arguably the best in the nation, at home, with competent officials? Ohio St. is going to whooped! If...

Honestly, probably for the best if that happens. Ohio St. did expose what was a questionable O-line, something Alabama would feast on. I think the Michigan D could keep a game against The Tide close, but at this point I wouldn't like our chances. So beating the crap out of Florida St. in the...

Except, those games have no bearing on this year. :nono: If The Game was even remotely competently officiated, Michigan wins handily (not to say if a few others things were different as well).

Ohio St.'s worst nightmare is a rematch against Michigan, on a neutral field but more importantly, with neutral refs.

Well here's the question, Michigan only dropped to 5th, and thus is still ahead of Wisconsin and Penn St. If Colorado beats Washington (currently ranked 4th), that would give Michigan a win against TWO conference champions. Outside of that trophy, do either Wisconsin or Penn St. really have a...

All it takes is the right coach, and a continued commitment from the AD, university president, and any other governing body. That and money from boosters to pay the salary of said coach. Don't forget, many Blue Blood programs (of which Nebraska is one) have had their dark days.

We are getting back into reload territory instead of rebuilding. And when you lose a guy to the NFL, it's next man up!

We shall see. At the end of the day, when it comes to the QB position, in Harbaugh I trust.

Yeah.......one of the areas Hoke really failed was in development of players. So for the upperclassmen, there was only so much Harbaugh could do to make up for lost time. Which don't get me wrong, he has done a phenomenal job with that, but it shows when they play a team that has had better...

And let me further add, when I talk about which QB gives the team the best chance to win, we should also talk about the intangibles. For example, let's go back to 2012 and Denard Robinson's senior year. There was a lot of talk pre, during, and post-season that Denard should have been moved to...

And I wouldn't disagree on that. Honestly, there should ALWAYS been an open competition, for every position. Football should be a meritocracy, and the players that give the team the best chance to win should get the snaps. And I have faith that's how Harbaugh runs things. I'm just saying...

It was the kid's first year as starter, and he was playing hurt. Not mention not everything was on Speight. Consider the pick-six, he was rushed as Smith missed picking up the block on a blitzing line-backer. And best of all, he was able to shrug off the mistake and drive down for a score...