Who on this board called Wade's depature from Miami practically all of last season?

[WiggyRuss]

You think it will be Darius Miles 2.0?

It would only be equivalent if a Team tried to sign him SOLELY to sink the Heats cap space.

The Portland Trail Blazers have a message for the NBA's 29 other teams -- don't sign Darius Miles.

If Miles plays two more games, then his Blazers contract, worth $18 million total for this season and next, would count against the Trail Blazers' salary cap and force the team to pay the NBA's luxury tax. The contract had been removed from salary cap and tax considerations when the Blazers deemed Miles medically unable to play and released him.

The full text of the e-mail, according to the SI.com and Yahoo! Sports accounts, reads:

" 'Team Presidents and General Managers,

'The Portland Trail Blazers are aware that certain teams may be contemplating signing Darius Miles to a contract for the purpose of adversely impacting the Portland Trail Blazers Salary Cap and tax positions. Such conduct from a team would violate its fiduciary duty as an NBA joint venturer. In addition, persons or entities involved in such conduct may be individually liable to the Portland Trail Blazers for tortuously interfering with the Portland Trail Blazers' contract rights and perspective economic opportunities.

If LeBron and Bosh talked and Bosh got clearance and was dead set on playing- you dont think Dan G. would give him a chance if the medical situation was okay?---

and obviously- giving a guy a chance on a vet. min. contract to come and play and letting him work through it and see how everything goes -is a MUCH MUCH more tenable situation than having 30% of your cap invested in the guy. If Bosh played half a season and it became clear that it was simply unmanageable- no harm no foul. Coming in- playing like 20-25 minutes off the bench at hte beginning to see how things go?

Thats why- if hte Heat are just trying to get rid of him because of the uncertainty- that is one thing- if they are dead set on him retiring because they believe there is no chance he can come back- that is altogether a different thing.

 

[Mecca]

If LeBron and Bosh talked and Bosh got clearance and was dead set on playing- you dont think Dan G. would give him a chance if the medical situation was okay?---

and obviously- giving a guy a chance on a vet. min. contract to come and play and letting him work through it and see how everything goes -is a MUCH MUCH more tenable situation than having 30% of your cap invested in the guy. If Bosh played half a season and it became clear that it was simply unmanageable- no harm no foul. Coming in- playing like 20-25 minutes off the bench at hte beginning to see how things go?

Thats why- if hte Heat are just trying to get rid of him because of the uncertainty- that is one thing- if they are dead set on him retiring because they believe there is no chance he can come back- that is altogether a different thing.

Oh, I totally understand your point and believe that it is valid.

I just don't think they have nefarious intent.

As for other Teams signing him, of course many will kick the tires if he is deemed healthy enough.

Not to the same magnitude...

But, Mourning and Sean Elliot played with serious health conditions.

Magic too if you remember how little was known about HIV at the time.

However, this is different.

If he stops meds and a clot goes to his lungs, heart or brain....

It's game over...with millions of folks watching.

If he played while taking the meds, a open cut could have him bleeding out.

Nobody wants that on their conscious....especially not a guy like Spo who already had front row seats to this type of tragedy.

He should retire.

 

[Heatles84]

Oh, I totally understand your point and believe that it is valid.

I just don't think they have nefarious intent.

As for other Teams signing him, of course many will kick the tires if he is deemed healthy enough.

Not to the same magnitude...

But, Mourning and Sean Elliot played with serious health conditions.

Magic too if you remember how little was known about HIV at the time.

However, this is different.

If he stops meds and a clot goes to his lungs, heart or brain....

It's game over...with millions of folks watching.

If he played while taking the meds, a open cut could have him bleeding out.

Nobody wants that on their conscious....especially not a guy like Spo who already had front row seats to this type of tragedy.

He should retire.

The NBA's getting involved. From what I read, they're going to have their own specialist take a look at Bosh. But money talks - meaning that the NBA will likely side with the Heat on this one given what you just pointed out. Also, one hit to the head and Bosh is done as well if the blood thinners are not out of his body. Having a player die on the court is just bad for business - a multi-billion dollar business at that. When the NBA comes down with that ruling, no one will be able to sign Bosh.

And minutes management has nothing to do with it either.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

LOL it looks as if Miami is still doing whatever it can to keep Bosh off the court...Interesting.
Report: Chris Bosh remains frustrated with Heat's handling of his health situation

He has an issue with blood clots - If one blood gets free and goes to his hear/lungs - The man will be dead in minutes - they have a legitimate concern about the man's life

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I am pretty sure that everyone knew that there was a possibility that Wade would leave Miami even though they thought it was most likely he would stay in Miami, so one person(Hurricane) got lucky and an predicted his departure my question is big deal?

 

[True Lakers Fan]

He has an issue with blood clots - If one blood gets free and goes to his hear/lungs - The man will be dead in minutes - they have a legitimate concern about the man's life

For example: - I have a friend who's son went for a job - very athletic person. Came in and sat down on his buddy's couch and died before the Paramedics could get there - The blood clot went straight to his lung. Quite honestly - I think there is a strong possibility he will never play again

 

[WiggyRuss]

He has an issue with blood clots - If one blood gets free and goes to his hear/lungs - The man will be dead in minutes - they have a legitimate concern about the man's life

If that is the case- absolutely I would side with the Heat and force him to retire. The fact that Bosh is pursuing this to such a degree leads me to believe there are two sides to the story. We shall see I guess.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

If that is the case- absolutely I would side with the Heat and force him to retire. The fact that Bosh is pursuing this to such a degree leads me to believe there are two sides to the story. We shall see I guess.

I can see both sides and I understand Bosh's desire to play, but it's important to remember that one blood clot that goes undetected can kill him. Everyone and anyone can be subject to blood clot problems but some people end up with the disease and in this case, Miami would be held liable if a blood clot killed Bosh on the court. It's a huge liability issue with a life at steak. I personally agree and would want the guy to retire.

 

[Heatles84]

If that is the case- absolutely I would side with the Heat and force him to retire. The fact that Bosh is pursuing this to such a degree leads me to believe there are two sides to the story. We shall see I guess.

Unfortunately for Bosh, his story has no credibility. Re-occurring blood clots are the deal here.

It's also telling that he was finally able to get one doctor to clear him (where I'm assuming most wouldn't go near his medical situation). Like I've said, I've been down that road with nearly the same thing Bosh has. My oncologist told me that re-occurring matters are the worse. Once this happens, it's highly likely that it's something you'll deal with the rest of your life.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Unfortunately for Bosh, his story has no credibility. Re-occurring blood clots are the deal here.

It's also telling that he was finally able to get one doctor to clear him (where I'm assuming most wouldn't go near his medical situation). Like I've said, I've been down that road with nearly the same thing Bosh has. My oncologist told me that re-occurring matters are the worse. Once this happens, it's highly likely that it's something you'll deal with the rest of your life.

for you to act like you know what the story is just shows how ignorant you. We have no freaking clue the particulars. The Heat wouldnt even confirm that he was out because of blood clots for months. We shouldnt know the particulars either as they are privileged between Bosh and his doctor and his employer.

We have very very very very little information - nothing more than a cursory web md definition of blood clots. For you to act like that is definitive is insane.

Im not saying i can side with either side- its just hard for me to believe that Bosh would be fighting to play if the advice he was getting was that he is taking his life into his own hands if he does so.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Heat's Chris Bosh: 'I've been gone ... but now I'm back'

With training camp scheduled to open in less than a month, Miami Heat forward Chris Bosh has increased his basketball workouts in hopes of returning to the court this season.

Bosh posted a series of workout videos on one of his social media accounts Monday and suggested he's ready to resume his basketball career after each of his past two seasons was cut short by blood clots.

"I know I've been gone for a moment, but now I'm back," Bosh, an 11-time All-Star, said in one of the videos posted Monday as he prepared for drills in an undisclosed gym. "Everybody is always asking me, 'Am I hooping?' Yes, I'm hooping. I'm a hooper."



Bosh has been working on his conditioning for several months and had pressured the Heat to allow him to return during last season's playoffs before the sides agreed to table the discussion until the offseason. Neither Bosh nor the Heat have offered a definitive explanation as to where Bosh is in his recovery from recurring blood clots and whether he will be cleared to return to action next season.

 

[Heatles84]

for you to act like you know what the story is just shows how ignorant you. We have no freaking clue the particulars. The Heat wouldnt even confirm that he was out because of blood clots for months. We shouldnt know the particulars either as they are privileged between Bosh and his doctor and his employer.

We have very very very very little information - nothing more than a cursory web md definition of blood clots. For you to act like that is definitive is insane.

Im not saying i can side with either side- its just hard for me to believe that Bosh would be fighting to play if the advice he was getting was that he is taking his life into his own hands if he does so.

So true or false....Bosh's last two seasons were cut short because of blood clots.

It says something that the Heat haven't committed fully yet to saying he'll play.

Yeah, I'm ignorant, even though I had the same condition that Bosh had. But keep talking out your ass, the smell of ky jelly brings a nice essence to this forum, you stupid kunt.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

It wouldn't be going out of too much of a limb at this point to say the Heat may have moved on from Bosh the basketball player quite some time ago, say in March...In all fairness, if I was the Heat I wouldn't want to be on the hook for that salary on a 32-year-old player either, unless of course his name happened to be LeBron James....

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Unfortunately for Bosh, his story has no credibility. Re-occurring blood clots are the deal here.

It's also telling that he was finally able to get one doctor to clear him (where I'm assuming most wouldn't go near his medical situation). Like I've said, I've been down that road with nearly the same thing Bosh has. My oncologist told me that re-occurring matters are the worse. Once this happens, it's highly likely that it's something you'll deal with the rest of your life.

My brother passed out in church and had to be rushed to the hospital immediately and most likely will be on blood thinners for the rest of his life. He was instructed to get up every hour and walk around to avoid the problem. There are many issues as you said and I agree - Bosh is blowing smoke because he wants to play, but if I am Pat Riley - I am thinking about this young man and what happens if he dies on the court because of a blood clot and then all of the fingers being pointed at me, the lawsuits and everything would scare me. Pat has a duty to protect Bosh and the Miami Heat. This is a no brainer. I sure wouldn't want to know that I caused a person to die by my negligence.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

It wouldn't be going out of too much of a limb at this point to say the Heat may have moved on from Bosh the basketball player quite some time ago, say in March...In all fairness, if I was the Heat I wouldn't want to be on the hook for that salary on a 32-year-old player either, unless of course his name happened to be LeBron James....

That's the business side of it, but there is the Bosh's life and the risk to him. It is interesting though because all of the blood clot risks have always been instructed to move around on a regular basis to prevent that from happening. Being still to long is what increases the risk, so there must be additional risks and issues cause by the extreme physical play in the NBA because they are taking it very seriously as they should

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Oh, I totally understand your point and believe that it is valid.

I just don't think they have nefarious intent.

As for other Teams signing him, of course many will kick the tires if he is deemed healthy enough.

Not to the same magnitude...

But, Mourning and Sean Elliot played with serious health conditions.

Magic too if you remember how little was known about HIV at the time.

However, this is different.

If he stops meds and a clot goes to his lungs, heart or brain....

It's game over...with millions of folks watching.

If he played while taking the meds, a open cut could have him bleeding out.

Nobody wants that on their conscious....especially not a guy like Spo who already had front row seats to this type of tragedy.

He should retire.

That's the part I might have been missing when I was wondering why they would stop him from playing when exercise on a routing basis is the key to successful living. Now not all patients have to take blood thinners the rest of their life - Coumadin is about the only one, and main one, which would increase the risk of bleeding profusely and considering how many got spooked over Magic Johnson wanting to play when he found out he was HIV positive, I'm thinking that most would be spooked now even though the HIV positive deal was twenty or more years ago

 

[True Lakers Fan]

for you to act like you know what the story is just shows how ignorant you. We have no freaking clue the particulars. The Heat wouldnt even confirm that he was out because of blood clots for months. We shouldnt know the particulars either as they are privileged between Bosh and his doctor and his employer.

We have very very very very little information - nothing more than a cursory web md definition of blood clots. For you to act like that is definitive is insane.

Im not saying i can side with either side- its just hard for me to believe that Bosh would be fighting to play if the advice he was getting was that he is taking his life into his own hands if he does so.

It is unfortunate, but I don't think you understand just how serious blood clots can be. There are two things that I know for sure can end a players career - Herniated Disk and Blood Clots. I have not seen any players go on with a good career after that. The fact that Bosh ended two seasons in a row with blood clot problems and the fact that the Miami Heat is taking it seriously - tells me enough to know that Heatles is right and you are wrong

 

[WiggyRuss]

It is unfortunate, but I don't think you understand just how serious blood clots can be. There are two things that I know for sure can end a players career - Herniated Disk and Blood Clots. I have not seen any players go on with a good career after that. The fact that Bosh ended two seasons in a row with blood clot problems and the fact that the Miami Heat is taking it seriously - tells me enough to know that Heatles is right and you are wrong

i fully undedrstand how serious blood clots are- i think you are failing to understand what i am saying.

im not saying i am for either side

i am saying its hard for me to believe bosh was told- if you play you are going to die- and despite that is insisting on playing.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

i fully undedrstand how serious blood clots are- i think you are failing to understand what i am saying.

im not saying i am for either side

i am saying its hard for me to believe bosh was told- if you play you are going to die- and despite that is insisting on playing.

What he was told was the risks involved. I have never heard of any one bleeding to death because of taking blood thinners, so It would seem like that once he gets it under control, he will be okay. That being said, his problem has come and gone two years away and is going to be an issue for the rest of his life which really sucks for him. What I am saying is that Pat Riley cannot take a chance in letting him play if the doctors advise against it. If the doctors say he can play and nothing wrong with that -then Riley is good to go. If was Pat Riley, however I'd want to be damned sure of that because if something happened to him on the court - his death would be on Riley's head

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Here is what I found on an article about Bosh last year and why athletes are at greater risk for blood clotting

Required to travel longer distances: The longer time a person travels - he doesn't move around enough and that increases the issues and risk

Dehydration - In spite of all of the liquids, the plasma in the body which is the liquid portion of the blood, drops lower through sweating which increases the blood clotting

Injuries: They can happen and a simple break means the body part has to be immobilized which means the blood clotting can jump

Lower Heart Rate: Athletes have lower heart rates and blood pressure than normal which also increases the blood clotting risk

I have simplified it considerably - but really Bosh has to be careful and if he isn't then the Miami Heat needs to be careful for him for his protection and their's

Athletes lifestyles can lead to deadly blood clotting