Randy Gregory Failed Drug Test At Combine

[j_y19]

Count me one of them then.

Me, too. And a guy on the suspension list (see Fred Davis) can't do squat for his team.

 

[Stymietee]

While I don't disagree, this isn't about him lighting up, this is about his judgement. He knew he was subject to testing, yet he toked anyway. That tells me his head isn't right and his draft position wasn't the most important thing to him. Anyone really want to risk th.e 5th pick overall on a guy that has questionable judgement and doesn't put his nfl career first and foremost?

I don't disagree with your assessment either, he stated that he suffered from anxiety, and that the use helped him with this. It is very possible that handling his anxiety issue in this manner allowed him to play himself into being considered a top pick. Archaic rules have made this the issue that it is. The NFL through its' refusal to acknowledge off the field issues caused by on the field play and the need to maximize profit is why this is an issue.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

I don't disagree with your assessment either, he stated that he suffered from anxiety, and that the use helped him with this. It is very possible that handling his anxiety issue in this manner allowed him to play himself into being considered a top pick. Archaic rules have made this the issue that it is. The NFL through its' refusal to acknowledge off the field issues caused by on the field play and the need to maximize profit is why this is an issue.

There are more red flags than just the weed issue. Here are some more...

 

[j_y19]

I don't disagree with your assessment either, he stated that he suffered from anxiety, and that the use helped him with this. It is very possible that handling his anxiety issue in this manner allowed him to play himself into being considered a top pick. Archaic rules have made this the issue that it is. The NFL through its' refusal to acknowledge off the field issues caused by on the field play and the need to maximize profit is why this is an issue.

Yeah, right. Anxiety.....why not? So he was self medicating. Another red flag. You don't really beleive this BS do you?

Again,this isn't about wether the rule is good or not. He knew the rules. He could have/should have seeked professional help if he was truly suffering. The kid just likes weed. More than he does his football future. MAJOR RED FLAG!

 

[Davis_Mike]

"anxiety"...

That is one of the many standby excuses for people who want to get high. He had many different avenues available for him to deal with any anxiety issues he may have had.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Tandler

Gregory now has 3 failed drug tests in last 15 months. Academic issues cost him scholarship at Purdue. Broken leg in 2012. All red flags.

3?...should be off the board in WAS, really any team in the top 15...maybe a team in the 20s to 30s will take the gamble.

This could knock him out of the 1st round.

 

[Stymietee]

Yeah, right. Anxiety.....why not? So he was self medicating. Another red flag. You don't really beleive this BS do you?

Again,this isn't about wether the rule is good or not. He knew the rules. He could have/should have seeked professional help if he was truly suffering. The kid just likes weed. More than he does his football future. MAJOR RED FLAG!

I believe it to the same extent that there is legal use of alcohol, which is by far a more dangerous thing. professional help?? For what?? Not using the league mandated substance abuse methods.......painkillers, alcohol, etc. Give me a break! As I've said......Hypocrites!

 

[Stymietee]

UOTE="Davis_Mike, post: 6397748, member: 5339"]"anxiety"...

That is one of the many standby excuses for people who want to get high. He had many different avenues available for him to deal with any anxiety issues he may have had.[/QUOTE]

Really?? Name one that HE was comfortable with beyond the one that he used.
BTW: What excuses do the NFL owners use for drinking, and who knows what else.

 

[podsox]

eh remember when everybody was passing the honey badger? he turned out to be a steal

 

[skinsdad62]

Do they test for alcoholism? Much worse than twistin' a couple up! Damned greedy PC hypocrites.

Here we go in 3.....2.....1

I hate the PC crowd for sure but here is a stat about drugs for you

in the year 1851 when the obscure to western history taiping rebellion started a full 1/3 of the Chinese population was straight up addicted to drugs of all sorts . that doesnt take into account the casual users . 36 million people died in the war making it the 2nd bloodiest of all time behind WW2 at 61 million with the an lusbar rebellion coming in at 30 million and WW1 at 20 million

so there is huge evidence that drugs and alcohol have huge negatives and many have paid the price

now back to gregory , he threw away millions because he couldnt stay away from the alleged non addictive drug MJ . davis did the same as has gordon and yet we still support this ? and yes they do test for alcohol too

 

[Caliskinsfan]

3?...should be off the board in WAS, really any team in the top 15...maybe a team in the 20s to 30s will take the gamble.

This could knock him out of the 1st round.

Well off the board early that's for sure. Hope it's off our board period honestly.

 

[j_y19]

I believe it to the same extent that there is legal use of alcohol, which is by far a more dangerous thing. professional help?? For what?? Not using the league mandated substance abuse methods.......painkillers, alcohol, etc. Give me a break! As I've said......Hypocrites!

So your medical degree has taught you that the only way to deal with anxiety is with chemicals? Sorry, sty, but million of people in the country suffer from anxiety and the vast majority deal with it without resorting to drugs, legal or not.

But, again, this isn't about the rule. I don't like some laws that have been passed. Should I be allowed to just ignore them? Since I don't agree with them, why should I be subject to them? Would you be ok with that?

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Well off the board early that's for sure. Hope it's off our board period honestly.

For me it's not even about the weed itself...popped 3 times for anything against the rules AND you still show up dirty @ the combine...sign that he really doesn't care...he's going to do it his way.

Cost himself a lot of money.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

For me it's not even about the weed itself...popped 3 times for anything against the rules AND you still show up dirty @ the combine...sign that he really doesn't care...he's going to do it his way.

Cost himself a lot of money.

And size and strength issues and academic issues leading to a lost scholarship and a broken leg...

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I believe it to the same extent that there is legal use of alcohol, which is by far a more dangerous thing. professional help?? For what?? Not using the league mandated substance abuse methods.......painkillers, alcohol, etc. Give me a break! As I've said......Hypocrites!

I'm with you in terms of the legalities of pot...but this is a bigger issue when it comes to the player...substitute pot for alcohol and you have the same problem, different substance.

 

[Clayton]

eh remember when everybody was passing the honey badger? he turned out to be a steal

Honey Badger was a much better college player than Gregory, though

 

[Stymietee]

So your medical degree has taught you that the only way to deal with anxiety is with chemicals? Sorry, sty, but million of people in the country suffer from anxiety and the vast majority deal with it without resorting to drugs, legal or not.

But, again, this isn't about the rule. I don't like some laws that have been passed. Should I be allowed to just ignore them? Since I don't agree with them, why should I be subject to them? Would you be ok with that?

Actually my medical degree (I actually have one) allows for us to take our patients as they come to us, not as we wish them to be. No, you don't ignore the law you work to change them, just as was done with the volstead act. Yes these things take time, but they are never addressed unless/until they are called into question.We can all agree that the NFL is the biggest beast in all of sports, and are currently engulfed in a number of issues beyond the game. How best to deal with these people beyond seeing them as players/product is chief among them. Therein lies the problem, as I've stated earlier, very very few have interest in the well being of these people beyond what they bring to their perspective teams. My job prior to retiring in 2013 was providing therapy to people who had issues primarily because their identities were all too often linked more to the job they were doing than who they were beyond employment.

 

[j_y19]

Actually my medical degree (I actually have one) allows for us to take our patients as they come to us, not as we wish them to be. No, you don't ignore the law you work to change them, just as was done with the volstead act. Yes these things take time, but they are never addressed unless/until they are called into question.We can all agree that the NFL is the biggest beast in all of sports, and are currently engulfed in a number of issues beyond the game. How best to deal with these people beyond seeing them as players/product is chief among them. Therein lies the problem, as I've stated earlier, very very few have interest in the well being of these people beyond what they bring to their perspective teams. My job prior to retiring in 2013 was providing therapy to people who had issues primarily because their identities were all too often linked more to the job they were doing than who they were beyond employment.

Sty, I actually agree with you on this country's current position regardIng pot. But until the laws are changed, we live by them or suffer the known consequence if caught not doing so. The same is true with work place regulations. If I apply for and take a job that I know has restrictions on certain activities, then I cant blame the company when I violate the policies and am punished for the violations. It seems your position is to blame the League for this players violation of their known policies. If he truly suffers from anxiety (which I don't buy and I bet you don't, either) he had other avenues to deal with it. He made numerous poor judgements and should pay the penalty for that. In this case, it will most likely be a significant drop on draft value and the loss of millions of dollars.

 

[kbso83432]

I'm not writing the kid off, I mean Trent got caught too and he's been our best and most reliable player since he's been here, but THIS team cannot afford to miss on THIS pick considering we haven't had a 1st rounder sine 2012 and have holes everywhere.

 

[kbso83432]

You do have to appreciate the irony of a fan base, myself included, that is all of the sudden dead set against a guy who plays a single position on the team, yet is falling all over each other over a former alcoholic who we have no problem having total control over the entire franchise.