....... CFP poll, Week 11

[ElTexan]

So Michigan State and ND getting jumped don't count for you?

I LITERALLY and EXPLICITLY noted that in there as exceptions. Are you dense?

 

[potzer25]

I LITERALLY and EXPLICITLY noted that in there as exceptions. Are you dense?

You don't drop unless you lose or some REAL obvious stuff happens. It's been that way forever.


If the Committee does something different, remind me, and I'll eat crow and call myself out for being wrong. But when I am I ever wrong?

Remember when I called ole miss beating Tebow that one year, and I did it in April.

I'm always right. It's tough, but I've gotten used to this burden.

 

[ElTexan]

you think those very low on the list exceptions is an "eat crow" situation?

I told y'all I'd be here and explicitly list where I was wrong, and I did... but if you think those low-list exceptions to the massive rule of everything remains the same is some kind of "proven wrong" thing... I don't know what to tell ya.

 

[ForeverNole10]

They also list Head-to-Head as a key indicator, but it didn't play a part with Ole Miss/LSU.

I thought I had things pretty well figured out until I saw that.

Completely agree with you on this statement, but the committee also never listed Baylor above TCU and no one really complained all that much. I think the reason is because TCU LOST that game far more than Baylor won it. The same idea for me goes with LSU and Ole Miss. Ole Miss LOST that game vs. LSU, sure it was a close competitive game, but if Bo Wallace doesn't make a boneheaded error at the end, they are in OT and who knows.

Another aspect is the way these teams lost, Auburn DESTROYED LSU, and Miss. St let LSU comeback in their game but was far more lopsided than the score indicated. While Ole Miss, barring a horrible injury, wins the game vs Auburn.

LSU is 7-2, plain and simple, but Ole Miss is 7-2, but two plays away from 9-0. I know people will say "If, but, blah blah" but realistically the way Ole Miss has lost is more impressive than how LSU lost, while both have comparable victories.

 

[KansasSooner]

Completely agree with you on this statement, but the committee also never listed Baylor above TCU and no one really complained all that much. I think the reason is because TCU LOST that game far more than Baylor won it. The same idea for me goes with LSU and Ole Miss. Ole Miss LOST that game vs. LSU, sure it was a close competitive game, but if Bo Wallace doesn't make a boneheaded error at the end, they are in OT and who knows.

Another aspect is the way these teams lost, Auburn DESTROYED LSU, and Miss. St let LSU comeback in their game but was far more lopsided than the score indicated. While Ole Miss, barring a horrible injury, wins the game vs Auburn.

LSU is 7-2, plain and simple, but Ole Miss is 7-2, but two plays away from 9-0. I know people will say "If, but, blah blah" but realistically the way Ole Miss has lost is more impressive than how LSU lost, while both have comparable victories.

So Oklahoma is two pick sixes away from being 8-0...don't see OU getting the love Ole Piss is getting.

 

[ForeverNole10]

So Oklahoma is two pick sixes away from being 8-0...don't see OU getting the love Ole Piss is getting.

Totally true, but Oklahoma's best win is WVU currently ranked 24th i believe, while Ole Miss's best win is against Alabama. Regardless, i think this year there are too many 1-loss teams, and both Ole Miss and Oklahoma are virtually eliminated.

 

[Red_Alert]

Oh, and Baylor, Ohio State, and Nebraska, how do y'all feel being behind a two-loss team whose only good win is Bama at home?

It doesn't bother me in the slightest at this point in the rankings. IF Nebraska keeps winning they'll move ahead of them whether Ole Miss wins out or loses again.

If Nebraska loses they'll drop like they should.

There are still 4 weeks of regular season and CCG's.

 

[ElTexan]

Here's a nice test of the system coming up.
TCU has a better OOC win that Bama

TCU [6] plays one-loss KSU [7]
Bama [5] plays @ two-loss LSU [16]

If the Committee truly "starts from scratch" every week and isn't letting the "previous week influence the next," then if both TCU and Bama win, there should be no reason to not have TCU jump Bama in the CFP Poll, right?

 

[yeodonie]

Here's a nice test of the system coming up.
TCU has a better OOC win that Bama

TCU [6] plays one-loss KSU [7]
Bama [5] plays @ two-loss LSU [16]

If the Committee truly "starts from scratch" every week and isn't letting the "previous week influence the next," then if both TCU and Bama win, there should be no reason to not have TCU jump Bama in the CFP Poll, right?

Except they're using whatever they want to use to include the "eye test"

That's code for "we have no reason to vote this SEC team this high but we are going to anyway"

 

[uncfan103]

Totally true, but Oklahoma's best win is WVU currently ranked 24th i believe, while Ole Miss's best win is against Alabama. Regardless, i think this year there are too many 1-loss teams, and both Ole Miss and Oklahoma are virtually eliminated.

According to the committee WVU is an amazing win (see Alabama)

 

[Demonjoe93]

Oh, and Baylor, Ohio State, and Nebraska, how do y'all feel being behind a two-loss team whose only good win is Bama at home?

While I agree Ole Miss is overrated, so is Ohio State (and I'm a Buckeyes fan). At least the Rebels didn't lost to a 4-5 Virginia Tech at home.

 

[ericd7633]

1 Mississippi State

2 Florida State

3 Auburn

4 Oregon

5 Alabama

6 TCU

7 Kansas State

8 Michigan State [dropped one on BYE week]

9 Arizona State [jumped up after OT win over Utah]

10 Notre Dame

11 Ole Miss [lost]

12 Baylor

13 Nebraska

14 Ohio State

15 Oklahoma

I thought the Committee was going to "start from scratch" every week? I thought the previous week was "not going to influence the next week at all." That's what many of you psychos were stating over and over again. You know who you are. C'mon. One team made a jump [AZ State], and one team dropped below a team they should probably have been below anyhow, and that was only because they didn't play that week [MSU].

Where's the "start from scratch?"

Maybe they did. You don't know if they didn't. The resume is the resume at this point. You can argue for TCU being over Bama, but if Bama wins the next couple of weeks, their resume will be better than TCU's anyways. I don't really have an issue with anything.

Again, the committee is looking at TEAMS, not what conference they represent. If they started from scratch, how different would it look? It would look exactly the same, because you cant discount what's happened the rest of the year.

 

[ericd7633]

Here's a nice test of the system coming up.
TCU has a better OOC win that Bama

TCU [6] plays one-loss KSU [7]
Bama [5] plays @ two-loss LSU [16]

If the Committee truly "starts from scratch" every week and isn't letting the "previous week influence the next," then if both TCU and Bama win, there should be no reason to not have TCU jump Bama in the CFP Poll, right?

I agree TCU should jump Bama in that scenario. If you believe that to be true, like your spouting off, you'll have no issue with Bama jumping TCU the following week if they beat Mississippi State.

And TCU does NOT have a better OOC win than Bama. Minnesota really?

 

[ElTexan]

I agree TCU should jump Bama in that scenario. If you believe that to be true, like your spouting off, you'll have no issue with Bama jumping TCU the following week if they beat Mississippi State.

And TCU does NOT have a better OOC win than Bama. Minnesota really?

So, you agree with something I think that represents "spouting off." Got it.

 

[ElTexan]

I agree TCU should jump Bama in that scenario. If you believe that to be true, like your spouting off, you'll have no issue with Bama jumping TCU the following week if they beat Mississippi State.

And TCU does NOT have a better OOC win than Bama. Minnesota really?

Hey, Minnesota got me some sweet PickEms points this year.
Yeah, I know. That was a stretch, but not a big one.

 

[ericd7633]

So, you agree with something I think that represents "spouting off." Got it.

I'll take that as a yes then, that you'll have no issue with Bama jumping TCU if they beat Mississippi State?

 

[ericd7633]

Hey, Minnesota got me some sweet PickEms points this year.
Yeah, I know. That was a stretch, but not a big one.

Minnesota is awful. They've played a terrible schedule, lost to Illinois, got blown out by TCU, almost lost to Purdue, and it wouldn't be a stretch to say they would have 5-6 losses with WVU's schedule.

 

[ElTexan]

I'll take that as a yes then, that you'll have no issue with Bama jumping TCU if they beat Mississippi State?

Why would I? I've been hoping the Committee would not be status who like the traditional polls.

 

[ElTexan]

Minnesota is awful. They've played a terrible schedule, lost to Illinois, got blown out by TCU, almost lost to Purdue, and it wouldn't be a stretch to say they would have 5-6 losses with WVU's schedule.

When trash offense and special teams Longhorns beat WVU on Saturday, you're going to be forced to change your tune. Sorry.

 

[ericd7633]

Why would I? I've been hoping the Committee would not be status who like the traditional polls.

Then why are you bitching all the time. Bama is ahead of TCU now, if both win the next 2 weeks, it'll be the same thing.