Is Stanford the best 1 loss team in America?

[sakau2007]

the same way a Stanford team that lost to Utah is?

stanford beat oregon. did i miss the part of the season where michigan state beat a top 5 team? top 10? top 20?

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

UCF is the best 1 loss team, duh.
In all seriousness I think its michigan state.I think that defense is better than Stanford's.

Welcome aboard Noob!!



That wasn't too harsh was it? Don't want to be accused of bullying or anything.

 

[sakau2007]

No need to do that ... I was right. Have you seen MSU's D? Baylor sure hasn't seen anything like it.

Indiana, Youngstown State, Western Michigan, and Notre Dame all scored double digits against MSU. I'd venture to say Baylor's offense might be better than an all-star team made up of offensive players from those 4 rosters.

 

[Ironbreaker]

Two can play that game ... Stanford needed every break prior to the last half of the 4th to be ahead 26-0.
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No they didn't. They went into the game with a game plan and executed it perfectly. They absolutely punished Oregon for 3.5 quarters and it wasn't even a game. Not by the scoreboard and not by the stats. Not until Oregon got the blocked fg td and an onside kick recovery.

Thats called getting the breaks. What Stanford did is called domination.

 

[cane_man]

I watched the entire game, and I am not buying the score not being indicative. You think that Stanford just decided to let them score 20? It's not like Stanford put second stringers in. We all know Oregon can score a lot of points fast, and that is exactly what they did. Sure, Stanford dominated the game, but Oregon still scored 20 points in about 8 minutes, as they are known to do. If that game went another 10 minutes, I am not confident Stanford wins. Don't get me wrong, games last 60 minutes ... I know that. My point is that the score indicated exactly how close that game was.

If the game had 10 more minutes stanford would have waited to completely change up their D. If watched the whole gameitt would be quite obvious exactly when they went prevent.

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

stanford beat oregon. did i miss the part of the season where michigan state beat a top 5 team? top 10? top 20?

as was pointed out earlier in the this thread, there are usually 2 ways to judge these teams: Their best win or their best loss. I see you're taking the best win aisle. It's all good bro.

 

[LawDawg]

stanford beat oregon. did i miss the part of the season where michigan state beat a top 5 team? top 10? top 20?

Your schedule isn't much better ... you have 1 win against a ranked team?

You do have a better loss than MSU, but the eye test says MSU's defense is at least on par with Stanford's, and as we saw last night, that is saying something.

You guys have UT, UGa and Bama left. You are going to lose at least 1 of 3, maybe 2 of 3 and will be out of this discussion.

MSU will have to beat OSU in the CCG.

 

[Shanemansj13]

stanford beat oregon. did i miss the part of the season where michigan state beat a top 5 team? top 10? top 20?

scUM might not be legit, but they held a team that averages 500+ yards to -48 rushing yards. Great defense is great defense. Just bc they beat an Oregon team doesn't mean we can throw the Utah loss out the window (not consistent). Yeah Stanford might be better than Michigan St, but to throw Michigan St out of the discussion just makes no sense.

 

[Smart]

still trying to justify that loss to ASU? I get it now. Carry on.

Smart is just hating on Stanford. He has been all year. He's still red assed at losing in the Rose Bowl to a superior team.

If you guys don't want to argue facts, just say so. These are lame cop-outs. There's an extensive record of me saying that head-to-head is overrated on this site, dating back to long before we played ASU. There is also an extensive record of we criticizing Stanford last year. On top of that, there is an extensive record of me picking the 2012 Oregon (ie the team that beat us in the Rose Bowl) to win the title. In fact, I normally get accused of the opposite by building up the teams that we lost to.

I'm sure you'll manage to rank Wisconsin in the top 10 too, even though their resume sucks ass.

You can say this all you want, but we have the best loss of any of the teams in this thread. Without an unprecedented officiating fuck-up, we would have the best road win of any of these teams. And while our other wins aren't against great teams, we repeatedly killed them (more than many on teams on this list can say). The only way one can validate having Wisconsin below 15ish is to penalize them for an officiating error which required an official apology. I'm not gonna do that, whether it be for the Badgers or anyone else.

 

[LawDawg]

They absolutely punished Oregon for 3.5 quarters

And, therein lies your problem ... the game is 4 quarters and Oregon dominated the last .5 and made it a game. Look, I agree with you that the first 3.5 quarters was a beat down of epic proportions. Who could deny that? But, if you weren't going, holy shit, Oregon may pull this out at the end, then I don't know what to say. In the last 3 minutes, that was a close as hell game that could have gone the other way.

 

[Ironbreaker]

And, therein lies your problem ... the game is 4 quarters and Oregon dominated the last .5 and made it a game. Look, I agree with you that the first 3.5 quarters was a beat down of epic proportions. Who could deny that? But, if you weren't going, holy shit, Oregon may pull this out at the end, then I don't know what to say. In the last 3 minutes, that was a close as hell game that could have gone the other way.

I wasnt thinking holy shit oregon might pull it out at all.

I was thinking damn it there goes the shutout!


The better team won. Again.

 

[rmilia1]

Indiana, Youngstown State, Western Michigan, and Notre Dame all scored double digits against MSU. I'd venture to say Baylor's offense might be better than an all-star team made up of offensive players from those 4 rosters.

Thats insane dude, MSU is #1 in total D by ALOT, number 1 in rush D by even MORE ( they give up 43 ypg on the ground that as far ahead of second place as the 2nd place team is the 19th ranked rush defense). They are 3rd in scoring defense but that doesnt count the 3 ST and defensive TDs other teams have scored against them. If it did their D would only be giving up about 6 points a game. MSU is the real deal on defense and far and away the best D in the country ( sorry Stanford ). Now if you want to tell me you arent sold on their offense then thats cool because I could see that.

 

[element1286]

I think they are the best one loss team, but in college football the best resume is what matters, not who you perceive is the best team.

 

[sakau2007]

If you guys don't want to argue facts, just say so. These are lame cop-outs. There's an extensive record of me saying that head-to-head is overrated on this site, dating back to long before we played ASU. There is also an extensive record of we criticizing Stanford last year. On top of that, there is an extensive record of me picking the 2012 Oregon (ie the team that beat us in the Rose Bowl) to win the title. In fact, I normally get accused of the opposite by building up the teams that we lost to.



You can say this all you want, but we have the best loss of any of the teams in this thread. Without an unprecedented officiating fuck-up, we would have the best road win of any of these teams. And while our other wins aren't against great teams, we repeatedly killed them (more than many on teams on this list can say). The only way one can validate having Wisconsin below 15ish is to penalize them for an officiating error which required an official apology. I'm not gonna do that, whether it be for the Badgers or anyone else.

meh, auburn beat texas a&m on the road, and they are ranked ahead of arizona state. if wisconsin had actually beaten arizona state (which given their FG kicker is hardly a given) then texas a&m would definitely be ranked much higher than wisconsin.

really only disputing the part that i bolded.

 

[LawDawg]

I wasnt thinking holy shit oregon might pull it out at all.

I was thinking damn it there goes the shutout!


The better team won. Again.

Again, I am not arguing that the better team lost. But, I have a hard time believing you weren't concerned when it was a one score difference and there was an onside kick. Me thinks you are letting your understandable Oregon hate get the best of you reason on this argument. I really didn't care who won, maybe leaning a little toward Stanford because my son is a big FSU fan, but I can assure you that I was fully aware that we had a ball game toward the end.

 

[BucksFanInGA]

Again, I am not arguing that the better team lost. But, I have a hard time believing you weren't concerned when it was a one score difference and there was an onside kick. Me thinks you are letting your understandable Oregon hate get the best of you reason on this argument. I really didn't care who won, maybe leaning a little toward Stanford because my son is a big FSU fan, but I can assure you that I was fully aware that we had a ball game toward the end.

At least it's not UF?

 

[rmilia1]

I think they are the best one loss team, but in college football the best resume is what matters, not who you perceive is the best team.[/QUOTE]

???? Um hell no it isnt. CFB is the ONLY sport where perception overrules reality. If resume mattered FSU would be number 1 by a ton right now. If resume mattered Alabama wouldnt have been in the title game in 2011 OK State would have etc etc. CFB is all about perception.

 

[cane_man]

If you guys don't want to argue facts, just say so.





You can say this all you want, but we have the best loss of any of the teams in this thread.

so much for those facts, eh?

Or did wisky lose to bama?

 

[Ironbreaker]

Again, I am not arguing that the better team lost. But, I have a hard time believing you weren't concerned when it was a one score difference and there was an onside kick. Me thinks you are letting your understandable Oregon hate get the best of you reason on this argument. I really didn't care who won, maybe leaning a little toward Stanford because my son is a big FSU fan, but I can assure you that I was fully aware that we had a ball game toward the end.

Sure it was a ball game, it's a game played with a ball. Your problem is understanding how it became one. Stanford punished Oregon. Period.

Oregon got lucky with the breaks in the end to make it resemble a game. They didnt dominate anything.


They were dominated.

 

[Shanemansj13]

And, therein lies your problem ... the game is 4 quarters and Oregon dominated the last .5 and made it a game. Look, I agree with you that the first 3.5 quarters was a beat down of epic proportions. Who could deny that? But, if you weren't going, holy shit, Oregon may pull this out at the end, then I don't know what to say. In the last 3 minutes, that was a close as hell game that could have gone the other way.

They got a field goal block and an onside kick, you are kidding right. Offense was still not impressive, defense did step up and stop em, but they were due for some stops they were running it down their throats.