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[nuraman00]

She loves Santa. However, I gave her to Santa too quickly so she cried for 5 seconds, until I explained that I was still there and wasn't going to leave. She stopped crying but didn't really smile for the picture. Next time, I will communicate what is happening better, because she's smart enough to comprehend what I tell her.

She isn't scared of anything. I can put her in a box, close it, and call her name and she'll just open the box. I suppose if I ever blocked it, she'd be scared, but I'm not about to give her fears. She won't get into the box unprompted, otherwise, I'd be scared of her doing it unsupervised. Worst would be in the airport or post office, just kidding. My sister has this toy worm that's attached to a string that you can make move for you. She'll grab my hand and tell me to pet it, but she won't. She'll touch it if you ask her to, but you can tell she's not quite sure about it.

What kind of a box do you put her in?

Are you making a makeshift fortress?

 

[MHSL82]

What kind of a box do you put her in?

Are you making a makeshift fortress?

Kleenex box.

Just kidding, I put her in a suitcase once and closed it. She didn't know she could push it open so she cried a little. Then, I told her what it was and did it again and now she thinks it's funny. Again, she doesn't do it on her own; she's apprehensive enough to know that wouldn't be fun. But when I'm there she thinks it's funny. Then I got an Amazon box and did it with that.

I don't want my daughter to be scared of things, but I won't push her to do something that she doesn't want to do. I differ from my wife in that if she looks scared at the beginning, my wife will avoid whatever that is. I will tell her what it is, demonstrate it, play with it, ask her again if she wants to play with it. If she says no, I put it away. Then, maybe a few days later, when I see it, I'll start playing with it, and invite her over. She always joins eventually, but I am prepared for when she won't one day. She loves fast movements so I hope she'll like to go on roller coasters. We'll start small. If she ends up being scared, I'm fine, I just want to do my part and I want her to try or really consider trying.

I have a similar thing with when she cries and so far, she rarely cries and when she does it's short. Most, if not all, is nature - not anything I do. But just because what I do might not be determinative doesn't mean I shouldn't try to do something. What I do when she starts to cry, if it's not real pain, is that I see if it's something she can do herself. For example, when she was first starting to walk, every once in awhile, she'd fuss a bit when she wanted to go somewhere. Instead of picking her up and taking her to where she wanted to go, like my wife would be inclined to do, I demonstrate how to get where she wants to go. She would then imitate. If she fell, I would say "boom" and instead of crying, she'd say "boom" back to me. She's had a "whatever" attitude to falling. Once my friend's baby fell and screamed, "waaaaaaaaaah" to which my daughter looked at me and said "boom" pointing to her baby friend. She saw the Olympic diving this year and said "boom wawa" which I consider one of her first sentences. (Wawa means water, of course.)

Then, if she was crying about something she couldn't just solve herself, I would distract her by showing her something, not really responding to the crying itself, and she'd later just start playing. Some parents will run to their baby and pick them up, which I'll do if it's serious.

What parents shouldn't do is totally ignore it or conversely, when the baby has a fit, give in after crying a bit. Then the baby will cry not because it's sad but because it is communicating to you that she wants something or is upset. Then, if you try to be disciplined, but then give in once she starts stomping, then it just escalates. She'll think that, "what do I have to do now to get what I want?" Babies can always up the ante, so we've started from the start to not react in ways that encourage tantrums. But we're not in the clear yet, as she's still really young. Plus, it's most, if not all, nature, not nurture. So we're not patting ourselves on the back, just trying to be proactive.

We won't ever do the cry it out method, where you put the baby in their bed in their room and just let them cry until they go to sleep. It's a negative thing that works, but it also shuts down some things in life. I don't put too much weight into books, but the one book we read did say that negative messages when young do shut down some neurological growth and shape what the baby thinks going forward. Whenever I don't want to do something or don't let her have something, like stay up and play or walk her around, etc., I think whether it's for me or for her. If it is bad for her, I'm disciplined. But if it's me being lazy or it's inconvenient for me, I'll just man up and do it. So for the cry it out method, I figure, she'll eventually go to bed in her own bed alone from us, she's done it before. We just like smoother transitions. She won't be wanting to sleep in our room when she's 18, so what's the big deal?

I know that I also don't want to spoil her too much so we're also teaching her discipline, daily patterns, thank goodness she hasn't gotten into the "I want this stage." I've seen some baaaad parenting on both the give in and the strict reaction to spoiled requests. I'll figure out some way to deal with it when it comes.

Wow, I must be in a weird mood. I write long entries often, but it's mostly not about me. Talk about unsolicited.

 

[nuraman00]

Kleenex box.

Just kidding, I put her in a suitcase once and closed it. She didn't know she could push it open so she cried a little. Then, I told her what it was and did it again and now she thinks it's funny. Again, she doesn't do it on her own; she's apprehensive enough to know that wouldn't be fun. But when I'm there she thinks it's funny. Then I got an Amazon box and did it with that.

I don't want my daughter to be scared of things, but I won't push her to do something that she doesn't want to do. I differ from my wife in that if she looks scared at the beginning, my wife will avoid whatever that is. I will tell her what it is, demonstrate it, play with it, ask her again if she wants to play with it. If she says no, I put it away. Then, maybe a few days later, when I see it, I'll start playing with it, and invite her over. She always joins eventually, but I am prepared for when she won't one day. She loves fast movements so I hope she'll like to go on roller coasters. We'll start small. If she ends up being scared, I'm fine, I just want to do my part and I want her to try or really consider trying.

I have a similar thing with when she cries and so far, she rarely cries and when she does it's short. Most, if not all, is nature - not anything I do. But just because what I do might not be determinative doesn't mean I shouldn't try to do something. What I do when she starts to cry, if it's not real pain, is that I see if it's something she can do herself. For example, when she was first starting to walk, every once in awhile, she'd fuss a bit when she wanted to go somewhere. Instead of picking her up and taking her to where she wanted to go, like my wife would be inclined to do, I demonstrate how to get where she wants to go. She would then imitate. If she fell, I would say "boom" and instead of crying, she'd say "boom" back to me. She's had a "whatever" attitude to falling. Once my friend's baby fell and screamed, "waaaaaaaaaah" to which my daughter looked at me and said "boom" pointing to her baby friend. She saw the Olympic diving this year and said "boom wawa" which I consider one of her first sentences. (Wawa means water, of course.)

Then, if she was crying about something she couldn't just solve herself, I would distract her by showing her something, not really responding to the crying itself, and she'd later just start playing. Some parents will run to their baby and pick them up, which I'll do if it's serious.

What parents shouldn't do is totally ignore it or conversely, when the baby has a fit, give in after crying a bit. Then the baby will cry not because it's sad but because it is communicating to you that she wants something or is upset. Then, if you try to be disciplined, but then give in once she starts stomping, then it just escalates. She'll think that, "what do I have to do now to get what I want?" Babies can always up the ante, so we've started from the start to not react in ways that encourage tantrums. But we're not in the clear yet, as she's still really young. Plus, it's most, if not all, nature, not nurture. So we're not patting ourselves on the back, just trying to be proactive.

We won't ever do the cry it out method, where you put the baby in their bed in their room and just let them cry until they go to sleep. It's a negative thing that works, but it also shuts down some things in life. I don't put too much weight into books, but the one book we read did say that negative messages when young do shut down some neurological growth and shape what the baby thinks going forward. Whenever I don't want to do something or don't let her have something, like stay up and play or walk her around, etc., I think whether it's for me or for her. If it is bad for her, I'm disciplined. But if it's me being lazy or it's inconvenient for me, I'll just man up and do it. So for the cry it out method, I figure, she'll eventually go to bed in her own bed alone from us, she's done it before. We just like smoother transitions. She won't be wanting to sleep in our room when she's 18, so what's the big deal?

I know that I also don't want to spoil her too much so we're also teaching her discipline, daily patterns, thank goodness she hasn't gotten into the "I want this stage." I've seen some baaaad parenting on both the give in and the strict reaction to spoiled requests. I'll figure out some way to deal with it when it comes.

Wow, I must be in a weird mood. I write long entries often, but it's mostly not about me. Talk about unsolicited.

Thanks for sharing. I'm learning a lot.

 

[nuraman00]

Did you take her to the Jazz game you went to, a few weeks ago?

 

[MHSL82]

Did you take her to the Jazz game you went to, a few weeks ago?

Yep, she liked it, but mostly because her baby friend was there and she got to see the Jazz "Bear Bear." We got to go onto the court to give the players high fives. I put her hand out to give them and some players just randomly hit, some didn't high five anybody, and some saw her and gave her a little five(but quickly). I got Paul Millsap's autograph earlier than that at a local grocery store during the Spurs playoff series. I say the Spurs playoff series, because the Jazz owned none of that.

 

[MHSL82]

I wish more people joined from ESPN, and that those who sign on, but don't register would post, too - but I think that this board is cool because you contribute a lot of stuff that is interesting to read and discuss. I guess I haven't learned anything from the media - where if you are offensive, controversial, or hateful, you get more responses.

Talking about offensive, I like this quote, though I do know how there are legitimate "whines" sometimes:

 

[nuraman00]

Yep, she liked it, but mostly because her baby friend was there and she got to see the Jazz "Bear Bear." We got to go onto the court to give the players high fives. I put her hand out to give them and some players just randomly hit, some didn't high five anybody, and some saw her and gave her a little five(but quickly). I got Paul Millsap's autograph earlier than that at a local grocery store during the Spurs playoff series. I say the Spurs playoff series, because the Jazz owned none of that.

Clintonite33's youngest daughter, who is now 5, loved CJ Miles. She would tweet back and forth at him. She was sad to see him go.

 

[nuraman00]

Oh, I thought you discovered, I mean, were proposing the ridiculous assertion that I slept with the Jazz Bear's wife. (By-the-way, his wife is human, that's why your pics look suspiciously interbred.) I was drunk. I mean, it didn't happen. I don't know what you are talking about.

Umm, quickly change the subject, I mean, continue normal conversation - yeah, I WILL have a lot of fun at Jazz games with my family, not my, I mean, not any bastard children, and yes, they may be able to play on center court one day, though I must avoid the Jazz Bear by 100 feet due to his restraining order after he found out about me and his wife, I mean, after he found out that his kid, I mean, for no good reason. I just don't like the way he stares at my wife, it's like he wants some revenge or something.

I guess I don't trust those who would breed with a different species. His wife is disgusting, I don't care how charming the Bear is, some thing's just cross the line! I guess, I'm for racial, sexual, and orientation equality, I just can't come to terms with bestiality, I mean, love between woman and beast. Belle from Beauty and the Beast is disgusting, too. She got lucky he became human again so that she could be accepted by society.

Phew, I almost revealed something I didn't want to reveal. I got to give it to myself, I have one quick mind to dodge those revelations. Smoooooth.

I favor making bestiality, now referred to as "bear love", legal.

Right now, the laws are too complicated. Is having bear love with a cub statutory r*pe? Can you serve a bear a cocktail with honey in it if it's under 21?

Does a growl mean yes or no?

If this is all made legal, then there will be less confusion.

 

[MHSL82]

I favor making bestiality, now referred to as "bear love", legal.

Right now, the laws are too complicated. Is having bear love with a cub statutory r*pe? Can you serve a bear a cocktail with honey in it if it's under 21?

Does a growl mean yes or no?

If this is all made legal, then there will be less confusion.

Mascots have other mascots to love, either gender, why must they take humans? Same laws for them as they are for us - we can't marry them and they can't marry us. That's the way it should be, but then again, I'm not into bear love. The statutory r*pe starts at some age before 18, because most bears mate well before that age. The prisons, I mean, zoos are already heavily populated with animals. It's a sad thing, but when everybody does it, it's hard to prosecute - so they are allowing bears to get away with murder, I mean statutory r*pe; oh and murder. The way they kill their prey isn't very humane, it's more bestial. Growls always mean no, unless they are long sustained booming noises (heard from within tents). Underage honey consumption is legal if it comes with a prescription or from a shady hivetender. Growing your own is not recommended, as it takes too long to grow - it's better to go take it from the bees and take the requisite stings. Eating honey and killing bees (who die after stinging) is like killing two birds with one stone - despicable. Let the birds live!!!

If we made simply being a bear an execution-able offense, there would be less confusion.

 

[nuraman00]

Mascots have other mascots to love, either gender, why must they take humans? Same laws for them as they are for us - we can't marry them and they can't marry us. That's the way it should be, but then again, I'm not into bear love. The statutory r*pe starts at some age before 18, because most bears mate well before that age. The prisons, I mean, zoos are already heavily populated with animals. It's a sad thing, but when everybody does it, it's hard to prosecute - so they are allowing bears to get away with murder, I mean statutory r*pe; oh and murder. The way they kill their prey isn't very humane, it's more bestial. Growls always mean no, unless they are long sustained booming noises (heard from within tents). Underage honey consumption is legal if it comes with a prescription or from a shady hivetender. Growing your own is not recommended, as it takes too long to grow - it's better to go take it from the bees and take the requisite stings. Eating honey and killing bees (who die after stinging) is like killing two birds with one stone - despicable. Let the birds live!!!

If we made simply being a bear an execution-able offense, there would be less confusion.

Great post.

Underage honey consumption is legal if it comes with a prescription or from a shady hivetender. Growing your own is not recommended, as it takes too long to grow - it's better to go take it from the bees and take the requisite stings. Eating honey and killing bees (who die after stinging) is like killing two birds with one stone - despicable. Let the birds live!!!

Great post.

 

[nuraman00]

Mascots have other mascots to love, either gender, why must they take humans?

Sometime during 2003-2004, or 2004-2005, I was watching a Suns game on ESPN.

It was the Gorilla's 50th birthday. At halftime, they celebrated his birthday with a cake.

His other mascot friends were there too. I remember seeing the Toronto Raptor, and the Spurs Coyote, for example.

Hmm, the Suns were formed in 1968. Maybe it was his 45th birthday, during the beginning of 2003-2004?

 

[nuraman00]

BTW, here's the best mascots website. I've had it bookmarked for 7-9 years.

Look at who the mascot is for the L.A. Lakers.

NBA History : Mascottes

 

[nuraman00]

(Wawa means water, of course.)

I've learned how to decipher baby talk because of you. Thanks for teaching.

You should start a weekly podcast where you translate various things your baby says.

That should be more fun than watching Jazz-Pacers road games.

 

[MHSL82]

I've learned how to decipher baby talk because of you. Thanks for teaching.

You should start a weekly podcast where you translate various things your baby says.

That should be more fun than watching Jazz-Pacers road games.

Especially back-to-back!

 

[MHSL82]

BTW, here's the best mascots website. I've had it bookmarked for 7-9 years.

Look at who the mascot is for the L.A. Lakers.

NBA History : Mascottes

I might be biased, but I really think the Jazz Bear is the best, but then again, I've seen all the tricks he does. I think the Phoenix Gorilla is probably the most famous one (not including the Spike Lee and Jack Nicholson inclusions).

 

[nuraman00]

I might be biased, but I really think the Jazz Bear is the best, but then again, I've seen all the tricks he does. I think the Phoenix Gorilla is probably the most famous one (not including the Spike Lee and Jack Nicholson inclusions).

Clutch the Bear, from the Houston Rockets, is pretty good too. Let me see if I can find a clip I saw about him, about a year ago. One of the sub-clips included him pieing all the mascots from the other teams that the Rockets had beaten up to that point, during the Rockets 22 game win streak in 2007-2008.

Clutch does tricks too.

Hugo The Hornet is probably the most famous. He, and Benny The Bull, were selectable characters in NBA Jam T.E.

EDIT: Ok, it wasn't one long clip, it was several clips.

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Also, this Cisco commercial makes me mad. I've never seen Slamson jump through a flaming hoop. And if he had done it before, they would still do it, as it would be an entertaining stunt. Did Cisco just make up a stunt for the commercial?

 

[MHSL82]

Also, this Cisco commercial makes me mad. I've never seen Slamson jump through a flaming hoop. And if he had done it before, they would still do it, as it would be an entertaining stunt. Did Cisco just make up a stunt for the commercial?

I doubt they just made it up for the commercial. The Jazz Bear has done that several times during the timeouts. I had a lot of regular season tickets one year.

 

[nuraman00]

I doubt they just made it up for the commercial. The Jazz Bear has done that several times during the timeouts. I had a lot of regular season tickets one year.

Look at the court Slamson is on though. He's not on Sleep Train Arena, he's on some fictitious all-purple court.

And I think the Jazz Bear has probably done better stunts for the years than Slamson.

 

[MHSL82]

Look at the court Slamson is on though. He's not on Sleep Train Arena, he's on some fictitious all-purple court.

And I think the Jazz Bear has probably done better stunts for the years than Slamson.

Both true. The commercial is shot in a different place, but I just was saying that I wouldn't assume it was fake. They could have just shot in a different place. I heard a rumor that the Jazz Bear person was a woman, but I doubt it, not because women can't do that, but because people make shit up sometimes. Jumping into splits may be easier and less painful than for men, I suppose.

The Wikipedia page specifically mentions pyrotechnics that he's famous for). Jazz Bear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The cite obviously makes stuff up as if he were a real bear. And no, Nuraman, he's not a real bear.

Here's the Cleveland Cavaliers' video referred to in the link. (It's an obvious set-up fake fan, but was a memorable thing to see on youtube (wasn't at that game).

 

[nuraman00]

Autotrader.com has two sets of commercials.

One in which a male looks up cars. At the end, it says "when you find the right car, you'll know it in your heart". It them zooms out from his chest. During the commercials, cars were being "filtered" through his veins and arteries.

The other commercial has a female looking up cars. At the end, it says "when you find the right car, there won't be any doubt in your mind." It then zooms out from her forehead.

Why did they choose heart for male, and mind for female? Why not just use the same for both?

Is there any underlying gender stereotyping? Is the woman being stereotyped for her mind/emotions?

Is it because they didn't want to zoom out from a woman's chest?