Eagles post game

[chillerdab]

Peyton’s rationale boils down to “RR says they were gassed, and Howell is too young to ‘have the conversation with RR (that might lead to going for it)’ so thats why they shouldnt have gone for it.”

Essentially: “I believe RR.”

Fuck that.

When you play with house money against a super bowl caliber team and have a 50% chance to steal a win, then “Riverboat Ron,” should have gone for it, especially since he’s gone for it on any number of occasions for no reason whatsoever.

His defense wasnt playing well, and his offense had just had an inconsistent second half, but had just pulled out a clutch drive ending with a beautiful play to Dotson.

A win against the ughles would have done significantly more for the confidence of the team (that “needs to learn how to win”) than a loss would have hurt them in that situation.

He had all the momentum.

Robinson wasnt getting stuffed.

The Sheagles were missing most of their secondary.

He should have isolated Scary Terry on whatever scrub the eagles trotted out, ran a razor sharp slant, and zipped it in there for the win.

 

[gkekoa]

Analytics doesn't take into account the context of the game you are involved in. I love Sean McVay's response to Analytics. "Analytics doesnt tell you if your LG has been getting his ass kicked all day."

If we had gone for it an didn't get it, and you got on here today and said props to Ron. I'm not mad at him, cool. I shouldn't have spoke for you.

However, a bunch of these guys calling in today on some Ron should have gone for it would have been the MAIN ones calling Ron and idiot.

I disagree. Analytics would assist in that because you can break it down further. For instance, our defense had been getting destroyed for the last three quarters of the game. Our offense had been successful all day long. That goes even further into the analytics favor of going for 2.

 

[gkekoa]

i did say the whole team lost in OT.

Well i disagree. You can't fault RR for going to OT.

And if we had won by going for 2, the whole team would have won.

I understand why RR went for OT. I believe his choice was wrong. I believe if he goes for 2, we win 50% of the time. I believe Joey Slye will miss the XP 10% of the time. I further believe we will lose in OT about 70% of the time. That means RR chose a 20-25% chance of winning over 50%.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Personally I can see credible points on both sides of this argument. I was ok with the xtra point. I honestly think I’d have been ok with going for 2 as well

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Peyton’s rationale boils down to “RR says they were gassed, and Howell is too young to ‘have the conversation with RR (that might lead to going for it)’ so thats why they shouldnt have gone for it.”

Essentially: “I believe RR.”

Ya, pretty much

 

[gkekoa]

KBSO is not wrong. More information goes into that 2-point decision than analytics.

Now you are misrepresenting what was said. KBSO said everybody would be blaming RR had we lost going for 2. I would not. There are quite a few others who would not either. Now if he called some stupid ass play, I would blame him for the play call…not the choice.

 

[kbso83432]

I disagree. Analytics would assist in that because you can break it down further. For instance, our defense had been getting destroyed for the last three quarters of the game. Our offense had been successful all day long. That goes even further into the analytics favor of going for 2.

There really is no right or wrong. Its a decision. My gripe is with those that are killing Ron today knowing they would have killed him if he went for it and didnt get it. They are out there and im calling bullshit on them. Thats all.

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinz2winz]

Joe Buck just said about Daniel Jones, "Oh boy, can it get any worse". Giants look awful tonight. Seattle meh...

 

[skinz2winz]

Does not apply to Tmac's catch. What I want to know is, if his foot is on the defenders arm, who in turn has that arm completely on the ground, would that not be down by contact and completed catch?

 

[skinsdad62]

Does not apply to Tmac's catch. What I want to know is, if his foot is on the defenders arm, who in turn has that arm completely on the ground, would that not be down by contact and completed catch?

Ok look at it this way if you are “tackled “ but no part of your body hits the ground you can still advance the ball if you are on top of the opponents body . Now that replay shows me his toes were in but the principal is the same . The refs said the arm carried him out of bounds which brings that link up

 

[Tdog21Skins]

I can see both ways, if we would’ve went for 2 and didn’t get it..y’all would be calling for Ron Rivera to be fired that’s why a part of me didn’t mind him kicking the extra point. Now if anything I wish Ron Rivera wouldn’t have said anything about them being gassed cause wasn’t the Eagles gassed

 

[Rowdy]

I can see both ways, if we would’ve went for 2 and didn’t get it..y’all would be calling for Ron Rivera to be fired that’s why a part of me didn’t mind him kicking the extra point. Now if anything I wish Ron Rivera wouldn’t have said anything about them being gassed cause wasn’t the Eagles gassed

RRs main problem. He talks too damn much

 

[deanpet21]

Now you are misrepresenting what was said. KBSO said everybody would be blaming RR had we lost going for 2. I would not. There are quite a few others who would not either. Now if he called some stupid ass play, I would blame him for the play call…not the choice.

ok, but EB calls the plays so RR wouldn't be responsible for the play call.

 

[deanpet21]

And if we had won by going for 2, the whole team would have won.

I understand why RR went for OT. I believe his choice was wrong. I believe if he goes for 2, we win 50% of the time. I believe Joey Slye will miss the XP 10% of the time. I further believe we will lose in OT about 70% of the time. That means RR chose a 20-25% chance of winning over 50%.

I don't believe his choice was wrong. His choice meant to the offense go score in OT and to the defense go get a stop to win. He chose his whole team over one play. The players have to respect that! Plus, we had no Timeout to talk about the 2 point try so the play would have been rushed.

I understand where you are coming from, going for 2 would have shown huge balls. Maybe RR chose the safe route b/c of his future coaching situation with this team. I don't know, but to fault RR for going to OT doesn't make sense to me. We showed that we can play with the best in the NFC.

 

[duke1861]

I don't believe his choice was wrong. His choice meant to the offense go score in OT and to the defense go get a stop to win. He chose his whole team over one play. The players have to respect that! Plus, we had no Timeout to talk about the 2 point try so the play would have been rushed.

I understand where you are coming from, going for 2 would have shown huge balls. Maybe RR chose the safe route b/c of his future coaching situation with this team. I don't know, but to fault RR for going to OT doesn't make sense to me. We showed that we can play with the best in the NFC.

You literally won't let these types of things go.
The drafts
The 2 point conversion
Free agency

I don't think you even know you are doing it. You blindly defend Rivera regardless of what he does or say. There are numerous arguments you have with others in which you consistently defend rivera....no matter what the issue is. This says you are not thinking objectively and that is why you are in a constant state of argument with everyone.

I have no opinion on the 2 pt conversion and have said nothing about it, but I knew you would be here to defend whatever Rivera decided to do.

You falsely claimed that most on the board predicted a losing record. When I asked for names, you had nothing because it isn't true. Like gkekoa said, stop worrying about what everyone else thinks. You do the same with Rivera, you keep claiming everyone wants him gone. If that is the case, that doesn't make you his public defender. I don't think everyone wants him gone.

Why you detest Heinkie, Cousins, and Gruden, but prop up Rivera for no reason makes no sense. I look forward to your posts once Rivera is gone....whenever that may be. I think you will have much more productive conversations with folks. Just my opinion.

To each there own....

 

[fightinfunbags]

Careful talking that shit rookie.

 

[Sportster 72]

Careful talking that shit rookie.

Like I said he did get burned a couple of times but he made some plays too. I think he will be fine.

 

[skinsdad62]

I was ok with kicking the XP and I would have been fine going for 2 . ( even if we missed it )

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[eaglesnut]

Actually the whole team lost in OT. Had we gone for the 2 point conversion, there was a 50% chance the whole team wins.

I can absolutely fault RR for kicking the XP. Had he gone for 2, the team had a 50% chance of winning. Instead he kicked a FG, giving the team a 25% chance of winning.

50%

1 out of 2 is 50%.
Scored on one play from the ten.
Don't score on the 2-pt.

That's your 50% and a big fat loss instead of a great chance to win in OT.