Best Receiver To Never Win Super Bowl

[thedddd]

Really can't argue against anyone on the list but surprised the lack of love for Julio Jones who sadly is stuck in Atlanta.

 

[Ricky Roma]

Really can't argue against anyone on the list but surprised the lack of love for Julio Jones who sadly is stuck in Atlanta.

That's because he won a SB....it's just that the rest of the Falcons gave it to New England.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I don't try to keep a man down, but you can't really argue who has conducted himself as a man outside of the game between the two, it's not a contest. I get it, Moss came from a crap background and didn't have a support system to fall back on, but his decision making from an early age on into adulthood leaves something to be desired. I don't hold it against him, just saying Fitz has been 1000X the role model.

It's a good thing we are talking about the best WR ever and not the best person ever. On the field, Fitz is a top 5 WR and he has some of the best hands ever but Moss is a top 2 WR and the best deep threat of all-time and as far as a redzone target...there is no match. Moss was better at both by a mile and to me that's what makes a WR most dangerous to an opposing defense:

Can this guy beat us deep?
Why can't I stop him from scoring TD's?

Moss did both better than Larry EASILY.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Really can't argue against anyone on the list but surprised the lack of love for Julio Jones who sadly is stuck in Atlanta.

Still got a ways to go...he is still only 30. TD's seems to be his only issue at times...can't put that really on all his shoulders though. That being said, he could very well go down as a top 5 WR of all-time when it's all said and done.

 

[Moab]

It's a good thing we are talking about the best WR ever and not the best person ever. On the field, Fitz is a top 5 WR and he has some of the best hands ever but Moss is a top 2 WR and the best deep threat of all-time and as far as a redzone target...there is no match. Moss was better at both by a mile and to me that's what makes a WR most dangerous to an opposing defense:

Can this guy beat us deep?
Why can't I stop him from scoring TD's?

Moss did both better than Larry EASILY.

When he wanted to, not all the time and when things were going well as opposed to somebody that goes all out all the time regardless of the circumstances.

Nah, Fitz is better, but you're allowed your opinion.

 

[megalodon30]

When he wanted to, not all the time and when things were going well as opposed to somebody that goes all out all the time regardless of the circumstances.

Nah, Fitz is better, but you're allowed your opinion.

Pretty much. Moss disappeared in Oakland. Meanwhile, Larry has spent almost his entire career in a similar situation to what Moss had in Oakland, but has been a consistent threat throughout. If Moss spent his career in with Fitzgerald's Cardinals, he wouldn't have put up half the numbers he did and probably retired twice as early as he did.

 

[Battlelyon]

If you did Running back, it would be only one answer. Barry

 

[Robotech]

When he wanted to, not all the time and when things were going well as opposed to somebody that goes all out all the time regardless of the circumstances.

Nah, Fitz is better, but you're allowed your opinion.

I get that stats aren't everything, but TDs is the most important stat of them all for a receiver, IMO, and Moss has significantly more TDs than Fitz. 156 TDs in 218 games for Moss. 120 TDs in 249 games for Fitz.

Granted, Fitz TD stats are great in the postseason (10 TDs in only 9 games, but Moss's 10 TDs in 15 games is pretty good, and evaluating a player based on postseason games runs into the problem of small sample size.

 

[megalodon30]

If you did Running back, it would be only one answer. Barry

Cough... LT... Cough

 

[megalodon30]

I get that stats aren't everything, but TDs is the most important stat of them all for a receiver, IMO, and Moss has significantly more TDs than Fitz. 156 TDs in 218 games for Moss. 120 TDs in 249 games for Fitz.

Granted, Fitz TD stats are great in the postseason (10 TDs in only 9 games, but Moss's 10 TDs in 15 games is pretty good, and evaluating a player based on postseason games runs into the problem of small sample size.

Moss had Randall Cunningham, Dante Culpepper, and Tom Brady throwing him passes for the majority of his career.

Fitz was catching passes from Matt Leinart, Ryan Lindley, and John Skelton for most of his career. He had Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer for about 7 seasons worth of games. Out of a 16 year career, he had competent QBs for less than half of that.

I don't expect a lot of TDs when you're catching passes from John Skelton and Ryan Lindley. Not even Moss would put up the stats Fitzgerald has with the putrid QBs he's played with.

 

[megalodon30]

Moss had Randall Cunningham, Dante Culpepper, and Tom Brady throwing him passes for the majority of his career.

Fitz was catching passes from Matt Leinart, Ryan Lindley, and John Skelton for most of his career. He had Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer for about 7 seasons worth of games. Out of a 16 year career, he had competent QBs for less than half of that.

I don't expect a lot of TDs when you're catching passes from John Skelton and Ryan Lindley. Not even Moss would put up the stats Fitzgerald has with the putrid QBs he's played with.

For reference, Palmer started 16 games in 2013 and 2015. Only 6 in 2014 (and went 6-0). In 2013 Larry had 10 TDs. In 2015 he had 9. In 2014, where Palmer missed 10 games, Larry had 2 TDs.

The 2 highest TD totals Fitzgerald had were in 2008 and 2009. Kurt Warner started 16 games in 2008 and 15 in 2009.

That's the price of having a good QB.

 

[Pure Steel]

If you did Running back, it would be only one answer. Barry

Love Barry Sanders, tough not to respect his game.....Didn’t see Jim Brown play, but a healthy Earl Campbell was as good as I’ve ever seen in the backfield.....If I needed just one yard, I’d give him the ball....if I needed 75.....same guy.....beast.....

 

[Groo]

Moss and Calvin

 

[Battlelyon]

Cough... LT... Cough

Barry all day

 

[Shanemansj13]

If you did Running back, it would be only one answer. Barry

Nope, not easily.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Dickerson and Earl have something to say about that

 

[Ojb81]

Dickerson and Earl have something to say about that

Dickerson, sure, but I don't think Earl is really in that top echelon of all-timers at RB that haven't won a SB. But, I'm also not very well-acquainted with his work as I am with the other fellas, so perhaps I'm selling him short, I dunno

 

[Ricky Roma]

Earl Campbell was a fucking horse....too bad his knees gave out. Same thing with OJ. That dude was Dickerson before Dickerson. Sanders was an awesome player, but everyone who claims he accomplished so much with so little around him just doesn't really understand.

With that spread/run-n-shoot type offense in Detroit, it really spaced defenders around the field and actually made his job easier. Those other guys were I-formation, and defenders loaded up to try and stop him within the box. It was just a more condensed field when those guys lined up.

Do I think Sanders would still be successful running the ball with those Oilers/Bills/Rams? Sure. How successful...I'm not sure. I know he took more losses than anyone else - and no it wasn't because his O-line was trash...it was his style - so I don't think he gets away with a lot of that playing more traditional formations.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Earl Campbell was a fucking horse.

The guy was something else. Heard him describe as two tree trunks with cleats at the bottom. Hit like he was shot from a cannon but incredibly nifty also. Loved watching that dude run. Went back to look at his film...yup he was fantastic.

 

[Ricky Roma]

The guy was something else. Heard him describe as two tree trunks with cleats at the bottom. Hit like he was shot from a cannon but incredibly nifty also. Loved watching that dude run. Went back to look at his film...yup he was fantastic.

People often quote Jim Brown as a man amongst boys....and a lot would have to do with the era involved. It was similar to Earl Campbell in the late 70's, and maybe Bo Jackson another decade after that. The guy could beat guys with speed, but when it came to inside, tackle breaking runs.....he destroyed a lot of defenders. His style may have led to his own destruction, but anyone who saw his 78-80 run know they saw a guy who rolled through almost anything.