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Meyer is getting screwed

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So you do believe now he only edited the word arrest because he was given false information/ or mistaken? Yes

We’ll go ahead and undo the bullshit rating you gave me in the two threads you did it in when I said the exact thing. An stop condemning McMurphy a liar for editing a few rods from his article.

Ohh and have an outstanding day ole buddy. Look forward to talk football with you real soon. :suds:
No, you deserved those. You will wear those with pride.

Fuck, I can't wait to talk about football. This Kardashian-level bullshit has to end. I'm exhausted.
 

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Sure, his wording was absolutely misleading and unclear. I've never said it wasn't. However, there's a difference between that and intentionally lying, which he didn't do.

The fact that he brought up the text from the night before absolutely is in reference to the McMurphy report, wouldn't you agree?

Wouldn't you agree that you have no idea what the text said? It could have said "shit storm tomorrow over Smith" " a reporter dug up dirt on Smith".
He had a chance to use that defense if what you're saying was true and he didn't use it and in fact acknowledged that he mislead (lied). So yes he lied. Him saying mislead and not completely accurate is legal for I lied but I can't say lie or I might be in bigger trouble.
 

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Wouldn't you agree that you have no idea what the text said? It could have said "shit storm tomorrow over Smith" " a reporter dug up dirt on Smith".
He had a chance to use that defense if what you're saying was true and he didn't use it and in fact acknowledged that he mislead (lied). So yes he lied. Him saying mislead and not completely accurate is legal for I lied but I can't say lie or I might be in bigger trouble.
So how would he know that would be in relation to 2015? That makes no sense at all. The text from the night before was in relation to the McMurphy report, it's the only thing that makes sense. I know you want that to not be the case, but it would be a pretty massive coincidence that he got a text unrelated to the McMurphy report the night it was released. That's just common sense.

Also, you realize he faces no actual punishment for lying to the media, right? That's not against any guidelines of any governing body.
 

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Doubtful on the first.

Most definitely on the second. The off-season sucks.
It wouldn't be that bad if this shitstorm didn't hit. I'd love to be sitting here talking about Dwayne Haskins' Heisman campaign as he's sitting next to teammate JK Dobbins in New York. But no, I'm talking about this bullshit.
 

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So how would he know that would be in relation to 2015? That makes no sense at all. The text from the night before was in relation to the McMurphy report, it's the only thing that makes sense. I know you want that to not be the case, but it would be a pretty massive coincidence that he got a text unrelated to the McMurphy report the night it was released. That's just common sense.

Also, you realize he faces no actual punishment for lying to the media, right? That's not against any guidelines of any governing body.

Common sense. If Urban had used common sense and answered truthfully ( he lied) he wouldn't be in this mess.
I'm pretty sure my first post this morning contained this from 11warriors

"Lying to the media is not a crime and does not inherently make Meyer a bad person. At the same time, when we write that Meyer lied to the media in Chicago, it's a statement of fact, acknowledged by Meyer and supported by the transcripts."

So while lying to the media isn't a crime if something like this happened again you can be sure "it's not a crime" wouldn't stop him from getting fired.
 

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Common sense. If Urban had used common sense and answered truthfully ( he lied) he wouldn't be in this mess.
I'm pretty sure my first post this morning contained this from 11warriors

"Lying to the media is not a crime and does not inherently make Meyer a bad person. At the same time, when we write that Meyer lied to the media in Chicago, it's a statement of fact, acknowledged by Meyer and supported by the transcripts."

So while lying to the media isn't a crime if something like this happened again you can be sure "it's not a crime" wouldn't stop him from getting fired.
If you think Urban Meyer is getting fired for not being entirely clear with the media at a press conference, especially if it's found out he properly reported the allegations in 2015, you're dreaming.
 

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Common sense. If Urban had used common sense and answered truthfully ( he lied) he wouldn't be in this mess.
I'm pretty sure my first post this morning contained this from 11warriors

"Lying to the media is not a crime and does not inherently make Meyer a bad person. At the same time, when we write that Meyer lied to the media in Chicago, it's a statement of fact, acknowledged by Meyer and supported by the transcripts."

So while lying to the media isn't a crime if something like this happened again you can be sure "it's not a crime" wouldn't stop him from getting fired.
Meyer lied to the media, anyone with a brain doesnt care. What matters is did he follow the rules and not try to brush this under the rug.
 

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If you think Urban Meyer is getting fired for not being entirely clear with the media at a press conference, especially if it's found out he properly reported the allegations in 2015, you're dreaming.

Where do you get that I said he's getting fired? LOL. Dude, relax. read what I said. I said if he did this again he would most certainly be fired. I didn't say he's getting fired now for this.
 

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Meyer lied to the media, anyone with a brain doesnt care. What matters is did he follow the rules and not try to brush this under the rug.

Yeah he did, that's why he lied. Hoping it would go away.
 

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Where do you get that I said he's getting fired? LOL. Dude, relax. read what I said. I said if he did this again he would most certainly be fired. I didn't say he's getting fired now for this.
Something like this, meaning if he isn't clear with the media again? That's never going to get him fired as long as he's actually following procedures correctly. He could tell the media that he's hired Dave Chapelle as his Special Teams Coach and it's not going to get him fired.
 

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Yeah he did, that's why he lied. Hoping it would go away.
If he didnt report thats brushing it under the rug. As I said anyone with a brain doesnt give a shit if he lied to a reporter.
 

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Something like this, meaning if he isn't clear with the media again? That's never going to get him fired as long as he's actually following procedures correctly. He could tell the media that he's hired Dave Chapelle as his Special Teams Coach and it's not going to get him fired.

He's going to get suspended for this. You really think he does it again he wont get fired? LOL. And by again I mean purposely lie to try to mislead the media and the public about something serious. Not lie about what he had for lunch.
 

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If he didnt report thats brushing it under the rug. As I said anyone with a brain doesnt give a shit if he lied to a reporter.

He lied to a group of reporters about his knowledge of incidents concerning his coach and domestic violence. He didn't lie about what his wife made for dinner. He's on leave and quite possibly be suspended for a game or two so I'd say people with brains do think him lying is a big deal. Not criminal but a big deal.
 

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He's going to get suspended for this. You really think he does it again he wont get fired? LOL. And by again I mean purposely lie to try to mislead the media and the public about something serious. Not lie about what he had for lunch.
He's already said that wasn't his intent, so unless you have proof, you can keep your biased defamation to yourself.

If they find that he followed procedure, I doubt he gets suspended. There's no precedent for that.
 

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He lied to a group of reporters about his knowledge of incidents concerning his coach and domestic violence. He didn't lie about what his wife made for dinner. He's on leave and quite possibly be suspended for a game or two so I'd say people with brains do think him lying is a big deal. Not criminal but a big deal.
It's not about what happened at media days, peabrain. He's on leave because they're investigating what happened in 2015 and if he actually followed protocol in reporting the allegations like he said he did.
 

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He's already said that wasn't his intent, so unless you have proof, you can keep your biased defamation to yourself.

If they find that he followed procedure, I doubt he gets suspended. There's no precedent for that.

I know. He also lied. lol. I'm sorry I lied and mislead. I didn't mean to lie and mislead when I lied and mislead. .
 

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It's not about what happened at media days, peabrain. He's on leave because they're investigating what happened in 2015 and if he actually followed protocol in reporting the allegations like he said he did.

So if he's suspended it's for what? Because if he didn't follow protocol he's getting fired not suspended. If he get's suspended it's because of how he handled it from the moment he found out people knew including his misleading (lying) statements when asked at media day and the thought that he should have fired the guy a long time ago.
 
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