Looks like it's up to Chris Petersen & the Washington Huskies to save the PAC-12

[Deep Creek]

If we want to take those stupid articles seriously what the conference needs is the middle of the Pac to pick it up more than some savior in one or two teams.

The results will always be mixed though. If you have half a dozen teams recruiting at a high level then no one team is monopolizing the top shelf talent and playoff appearances will dwindle as a result.

It is looking like the key for a conference getting CFP spots is to have one or two real good teams and the rest not be very good. Having a large, quality middle of the pack seems ripe to upset the real good teams and possibly reduce their playoff chances...depending on what happens in other conferences. Good chance conferences will lose a CFP spot if the wrong team wins the CCG. i.e. There was a good chance the Big 12 would have been left out if TCU had beaten OU in the CCG last year.

 

[nddulac]

It is looking like the key for a conference getting CFP spots is to have one or two real good teams and the rest not be very good. Having a large, quality middle of the pack seems ripe to upset the real good teams and possibly reduce their playoff chances...depending on what happens in other conferences. Good chance conferences will lose a CFP spot if the wrong team wins the CCG. i.e. There was a good chance the Big 12 would have been left out if TCU had beaten OU in the CCG last year.

Another important factor is for the mid to low level teams in the conference need to do well in out-of-conference games, and preferable against high-quality competition. This will increasing the rating of the average rating for the conference, giving the conference champion a boost. This was a problem that used to plague the Pac-10 in the days of the BCS - when the mid and low level programs did poorly against weak out of conference competition.

 

[WizardHawk]

And UW didn't suffer thru several failed coaching staffs in a row?

Dementia is a terrible thing. I doubt you will recover from it.

What the fuck are you talking about? I said UW was down because of a failed AD that didn't care about men's sports. Where did I say it was one coach or whatever the fuck you are on about?

UW was down for the better part of a decade and it took the change at AD to start to come out of it. The ducks profited from less recruiting competition. It's really not complicated. Do try to keep up with the conversation next time.

 

[blazer prophet]

Another important factor is for the mid to low level teams in the conference need to do well in out-of-conference games, and preferable against high-quality competition. This will increasing the rating of the average rating for the conference, giving the conference champion a boost. This was a problem that used to plague the Pac-10 in the days of the BCS - when the mid and low level programs did poorly against weak out of conference competition.

I get the point, but Oregon State just isn't beating Ohio State, Alabama and Georgia in their non conference games anytime in the next 200 years.

I do agree we can't do what UW did the last few seasons and UO this season and pass muster. We should never schedule high school quality teams. Or even top 25 teams. Just 2 of 3 non conference teams that play in BCS conferences and that should suffice.

 

[blazer prophet]

The ducks profited from less recruiting competition. It's really not complicated. Do try to keep up with the conversation next time.

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[WizardHawk]

I recall very recently when we were kicking your ass year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year and thru it all y'all were so damn superior.

UW fans are the definition of arrogance in the dictionary.

So your fans weren't being fucked up jackass arrogant pricks during that year after year streak? You didn't have a huge vocal group all over the internet acting like the ducks were the center of the football world despite not actually winning a single championship? Ducks weren't listed as one of the most hated fan bases nationwide in surveys because of how annoying they came off to actual established program fans?

You are fully delusional. UW fans weren't anything close to arrogant while the program was down. We were pissed off and frustrated for sure, but you are smoking crack if you think there was arrogance. For what? They went 0-12 one season ffs.

Get a damned clue.

 

[WizardHawk]

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So while UW was down the ducks didn't end up getting recruits a strong UW has/would/is again getting now? It really is amazing how little duck fans know about college football and how it works. Clue: A still somewhat strong ducks team is for sure keeping UW down in recruiting. So is a resurging USC more or less whatever potential Chip might make in future classes. Most of the west coast is picking from the same pool.

Do you understand even the basics?

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

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And the Ducks still couldn't come close to being #4 in the country in recruiting like they are now.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

And the Ducks still couldn't come close to being #4 in the country in recruiting like they are now.

Ducks must be cheating in 3....2....1

 

[WizardHawk]

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Further, UW for sure took advantage of a less than dominating USC team through the early 90's. If they had been at national power status it very likely would have kept UW down a peg or two.

All of the teams are intertwined. It's a fact. This is how college football works. To be the best of the conference you need to either be just bad ass, and/or have other teams struggling. It's a combination of the two. I mean isn't this kind of entry level stuff?

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Further, UW for sure took advantage of a less than dominating USC team through the early 90's. If they had been at national power status it very likely would have kept UW down a peg or two.

All of the teams are intertwined. It's a fact. This is how college football works. To be the best of the conference you need to either be just bad ass, and/or have other teams struggling. It's a combination of the two. I mean isn't this kind of entry level stuff?

Or keep grinding like Mike Bellotti (2001) win the PAC and finish #2 in the Country

 

[AlaskaGuy]

New Arena’s Top 25 College Football Poll for 2018-19 Season

5. Washington Huskies
Last year's record: 10-3
Most important returning player: RB Myles Gaskin

This might be Chris Petersen's best team since he took over the gig four years ago. In a short amount of time, Petersen's turned this program into the class of the Pac-12 North -- and perhaps the Pac-12 as a whole. His players are hard-nosed, physical, and exceptionally well coached. This year, seniors QB Jake Browning and RB Myles Gaskin will look to lead this team back to the College Football Playoff. An opening game test versus Auburn in Atlanta will tell us a whole lot about the possible trajectory of this team. Other tough games on the schedule include road games at Oregon and Utah, and an end-of-the-season bout with Stanford.

 

[nddulac]

I get the point, but Oregon State just isn't beating Ohio State, Alabama and Georgia in their non conference games anytime in the next 200 years.

Those games aren't quite the point. What can't happen (for the sake of the rest of the conference) is for Oregon State to do poorly against Southern Utah and/or Nevada.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

And the Ducks still couldn't come close to being #4 in the country in recruiting like they are now.

For 2019? Its still early The ducks are already up to 17 recruits. Washington has 13 SC is sitting at 10 recruits and they generally wait until signing day to make their moves. I would be surprised if their isn't a major shift in recruiting rankings come signing day

 

[TheRobotDevil]

I think the point is things would have been quite a bit different for Oregon on their initial climb up to Mariota era Oregon. The recruiting surge and everything that went with it came at that time. Few losses here and there and some of those higher recruits end up elsewhere. Doesn't take many to swing things.

I don't generally agree with Wiz often. And I'm sure he'll vouch for that. But what he's saying makes a lot of sense. SC upset Oregon once during the sanctions with a depleted roster. They only played Mariota once and that was basically a shoot out that wound up being a close game. Where Oregon barely slipped out with the win. Because SC lacked depth at defense.

If SC isn't under sanctions and Washington has the staff they have now. It would have been a completely different dynamic. The PAC would have been far from a cakewalk for Oregon based on recruiting alone. If SC has the spots for depth Deanthony Thomas may have never flipped from SC to Oregon etc.....

The Jury is still out on Chip at UCLA. But it does seem a little strange he has a lot of recruits jumping ship. One of their top recruits Chris Steele decimated from UCLA and committed to SC. He just lost Addison to Oregon because SC an Washington have too much depth to start him immediately. I thinks quite plausible to say Oregon doesn't have their run. If SC isn't under sanctions and Udubs had the proper staff they have now. Oregon did benefit from both

 

[mrwallace2ku]

lolz at the UWUB preseason rant…expectation bar is way to high.


(see ancient aliens staring BaBa Hedges)

 

[AlaskaGuy]

lolz at the UWUB preseason rant…expectation bar is way to high.

(see ancient aliens staring BaBa Hedges)

Washington leads Pac-12 power rankings ahead of crowded field, including Stanford, Utah, USC

 

[mrwallace2ku]

i just became a AU fan...

 

[AlaskaGuy]

i just became a AU fan...

Who's 'AU' ?

 

[nddulac]

The Jury is still out on Chip at UCLA.

If only he were Jim Harbaugh - so we would know he is the absolute best coach since John Heisman before he has even coached a game.