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Poll: Who trades a first rounder for Foles first?

Who trades a first for Foles first?

  • Jaguars (Blake Bortles is drunk right now)

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So I cite a guy who has strong insider ties with NFL sources, is seldom outright wrong, and called the previous Foles trade with the Rams weeks in advance of everyone else. Dismissed as someone who doesn't know what he's talking about because of a trade chart. Then, we cite articles which cites nobody but themselves essentially.

Yeah, ok.

I see how this works.
 

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Taylor is also better than Foles so the irony will be rich.

See, this is your problem. You claim to be objective but you say stuff like Tyrod Taylor is better than Nick Foles.

I am going to post a poll in here asking this question: Who would you rather have as a QB, Nick Foles or Tyrod Taylor? Let's see how that turns out.
 

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See, this is your problem. You claim to be objective but you say stuff like Tyrod Taylor is better than Nick Foles.

I am going to post a poll in here asking this question: Who would you rather have as a QB, Nick Foles or Tyrod Taylor? Let's see how that turns out.
You say this like it reflects well on your objectivity that you argue Foles>Taylor or that Foles is worth a 1st round pick.

As for the poll? So soon after the SB? Probably not. I don't give a shit what the hoop commentariat thinks per se, so this is a weird argument to make against me. If we want to use the bandwagon fallacy though, not a soul or fowl thinks Foles is better than Taylor prior to this December.
 

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Sure- looked pretty similar to other times he has played bad defenses. The NFCCG was infinitely more inpressive than the SB. I remember him lighting the Colts up too last year, he immediately shit the bed against the Jags, however.

Schematically there was a lot of support in that the amount of processing for Foles was very low. Once teams adjusted, his flaws re-asserted themselves into the numbers. Henceforth outside of easy circumstances for the most part and the weird anomaly here and there. Did Kelly develop Foles? Not really. Did his scheme help? For a time, yes it did.


Eagles fans also said Bradford> Foles by about November of that season... fans gonna fan. 1 game (or 2-3) ought to change nothing. Nobody has ever said Foles hasn't produced good games. I am just saying don't ignore the bad (which I think there's more of) either.
Both of Jeff Fisher's QBs faced each other in the championship game two years later. Don't respond. Just think on that.
 

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Asked and answered- I care minimally in the context of everything else.
I started going back to look for it. I stopped when I found where you said Foles good play is all amusingly flukey and suppose all his Jeff Fisher play is the real stuff. Laughable logic. Carry on.
 

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I started going back to look for it. I stopped when I found where you said Foles good play is all amusingly flukey and suppose all his Jeff Fisher play is the real stuff. Laughable logic. Carry on.
Ah, yes, but 3 games or an outlier 27:2 is more reflective than the past 20+ starts.
 

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Ah, yes, but 3 games or an outlier 27:2 is more reflective than the past 20+ starts.
Both of Jeff Fisher's failed QBs just played against each other in the championship.

I'll include this time, because apparently you haven't considered, that coaching matters.
 

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Both of Jeff Fisher's failed QBs just played against each other in the championship.

I'll include this time, because apparently you haven't considered, that coaching matters.
>Hasn't read my posts on the subject that address this already
>Doesn't treat talent as independent of the coach/roster
>Tells me I have laughable logic when evaluating Foles


Coolbeans.
 

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>Hasn't read my posts on the subject that address this already
>Doesn't treat talent as independent of the coach/roster
>Tells me I have laughable logic when evaluating Foles


Coolbeans.

>throws out all the good games
>only evaluates the Jeff Fisher games
>considers it complete analysis

Cool beans.
 

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I just saw a CBS story that besides NE TB12 jersey's were the #1 seller in NY, FL and one other state.

I didn't find it surprising because we know TB lives in NY:rolleyes2: but what about those other states?

What I did find surprising he outsold Eli and OBJ along with the entire Bills, Giants and Jet teams.
 

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should probably try to trade Wentz. Foles is SB MVP. What has wentz done?
 

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should probably try to trade Wentz. Foles is SB MVP. What has wentz done?

If anyone should keep their mouth shut about Wentz it would be a Skins fan after he absolutely embarrassed you guys with the highlight play of the year against them.
 

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Nick Foles is 48 for 62 for 544 yards, 5 TDs and zero interceptions in the second half of his postseason career - 4 games

Which is way better than every other Quarterback ever.

FACTS.

FOLES GOT EM.

Nothing more important than the second half of playoff football. Chiefs' fans would know.
 
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