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Redskins' Kirk Cousins: Still far apart on extension terms

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The only way I can even think this is logical is if they 100% know the following

1. Darnold will come out next year
2. Darnold is going to be the best QB EVER in the history of the NFL
3. We will be able to trade up and get Darnold
4. It wont matter what we give up for Darnold because he alone will win multiple Lombardi's.
once again according to scouts there are 10 legit qbs that can play at this level even your god SM was a scout best qb class in nfl history there are ifs and buts
 

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this qb class is the omega qb class in the history of all qb classes whats so hard to understand this the 10 th best qb in this class would be a first round pick in other years qb class why is so hard to understand this why does shark and skindad say the scouts are wrong we know more
 

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A source with knowledge of the situation told Profootballtalk.com that "internal disagreement exists" within the Redskins' organization "regarding (Kirk) Cousins' actual value."
"Internal disagreement" has existed in Washington's front office regarding Cousins' value for several years, and the leaks are coming out now with just days left before the deadline for teams to sign franchise-tagged players long term. Per Bleacher Report's Jason Cole, ex-Redskins GM Scot McCloughan "wanted to give Cousins a contract extension before 2015," but the "front office declined." The "front office" was/is Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen, who have messed this up from the get go and appear to be in no rush for a resolution. Jul 14 - 9:52 PM
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports


This has Bruce Allen written all over it the guy is a piece of shit
 

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people need to google the word value and worth its 2 differnt words and meaning is kc value 25 mill plus sure.... is he worth 25 mill plus elite pay hell no
 

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people need to google the word value and worth its 2 differnt words and meaning is kc value 25 mill plus sure.... is he worth 25 mill plus elite pay hell no
you need to get to the 2000's and wake up . simple economics , supply and demand . when he signs for 25 mil coach within 3 years his pay is middle of the pack
 

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you need to get to the 2000's and wake up . simple economics , supply and demand . when he signs for 25 mil coach within 3 years his pay is middle of the pack
i think you right skindads on this :suds:
 

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this qb class is the omega qb class in the history of all qb classes whats so hard to understand this the 10 th best qb in this class would be a first round pick in other years qb class why is so hard to understand this why does shark and skindad say the scouts are wrong we know more
open up a history book on football and that will tell you everything . drafting qbs has done us well shuler , JC , RG3 ramsey , do i need to go further i can harry gilmer 1948 raplh guglielimie 1955 norm sneed 1961 . in fact in their whole 75+year history of the skins we hit on one qb in round one sammy baugh 1936

and coach , tell me how many scouts had us taking sherf ? no one , but shark and i had him

i was told goff was god , nope , so scouts are wrong

1 in 5 qbs drafted in round one actually do as well as KC
 

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this qb class is the omega qb class in the history of all qb classes whats so hard to understand this the 10 th best qb in this class would be a first round pick in other years qb class why is so hard to understand this why does shark and skindad say the scouts are wrong we know more


Why is it so hard for some of you to understand that these 10 omega QBs are still going to be rookies?? That if this class is supposed to be filled with cant miss prospects, why are the Raiders willing to give Carr $40M at signing, and $70M over all guaranteed?? Why are the Lions even considering extending Stafford??

Easy, because if you HAVE a good QB you dont let him out the building in the hopes you find a better QB in the draft. Not unless you are clearly just dumb. Which apparently our front office is testing that theory.
 

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Cousins-Schaffer: Redskins' negotiator at center of QB talks

i think shaffer is on board , DW recused himself which in my opinion is a bad move and speaks volumes about his role . i think BA is against it and is a liar point blank , and snyder is listening to bad advice and should make the move to sign him

i am sure the coaching staff want him
 

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Why is it so hard for some of you to understand that these 10 omega QBs are still going to be rookies?? That if this class is supposed to be filled with cant miss prospects, why are the Raiders willing to give Carr $40M at signing, and $70M over all guaranteed?? Why are the Lions even considering extending Stafford??

Easy, because if you HAVE a good QB you dont let him out the building in the hopes you find a better QB in the draft. Not unless you are clearly just dumb. Which apparently our front office is testing that theory.
its not dumb but its riskey and cheaper
 

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Do you call the last two seasons winning?
1st back to back winning seasons since the 90's . considering we were coming off a 3-13 and a 4-12 season i would say that is winning and progressing
 

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its not dumb but its riskey and cheaper


So let me say it like this.

Would you agree Kirk is a good QB?
Would you agree that the front office is using money as an excuse to possibly lose a good QB?
It would be one thing if Kirk was asking for a market value deal after only 9 starts and a 5-4 record in those starts.

But we are looking at a QB that has been good for us and individually has actually improved drastically over what he was when he first came here. I find it ironic that the owner KNOWN for over paying players, is suddenly going all tightwad.
 

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Redskins bigwigs are at loggerheads over franchise-tagged quarterback Kirk Cousins‘ long-term value, which isn’t anything new. Entering the 2015 season, Cousins’ first as a starter, now-former Washington general manager Scot McCloughan wanted to sign the then-unproven passer to a contract extension worth around $12MM per year. However, the GM’s bosses in the front office declined, reports Jason Cole of Bleacher Report. Then, after Cousins broke out that season, the signal-caller’s price rose to $20MM per annum – a figure with which McCloughan was “uncomfortable” (Twitter links).

Plenty more on Cousins as the Monday deadline for the Redskins to ink him to a multiyear deal approaches:

  • The Associated Press profiles Redskins senior vice president of football operations/general counsel Eric Schaffer, a key figure in their contract talks with Cousins. A former assistant of famed agent Tom Condon, Schaffer has worked his way up the Washington pecking order since his hiring 15 years ago and has earned the trust of those above him in the team’s front office. That includes senior vice president of player personnel Doug Williams, who told the AP: “Nobody takes notes like Eric Schaffer. I bet he can tell you the first word I said four years ago. That’s who Eric Schaffer is. That’s how important he is.” Schaffer has also gained the respect of Cousins, who noted: “This isn’t his first rodeo. I have a lot of faith in him not only in handling my situation, but when my situation is handled, handling everybody else’s. I have faith in that. But make no mistake: There are titles ahead of him.” Those “titles” belong to owner Dan Snyder, president Bruce Allen and Williams, all of whom are above Schaffer in the team’s hierarchy.
  • Placing the franchise tag on Cousins again for a third straight year in 2018 would cost the Redskins over $34MM, making it an unlikely option. At around $28MM, the transition tag seems like a more realistic path, and JP Finlay of CSN Mid-Atlantic observes that the Redskins would have more than enough room to fit that under their cap (though rollover amounts could pose a problem). Of course, making Cousins a transition player wouldn’t entitle the team to any compensation if he were to sign elsewhere. The Redskins would have the right to match a Cousins offer from another club, though.
  • The 49ers’ future under center could hinge on whether the Redskins are able to lock up Cousins, opines Matt Maiocco of NBC Sports Bay Area. The Niners entered the current offseason lacking under center, yet they just made modest free agent acquisitions (Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley) and only used a third-rounder on the position in the draft, taking C.J. Beathard. Without an obvious long-term answer at QB, the 49ers figure to chase Cousins in 2018 if he hits free agency, especially considering they have a Cousins fan in head coach/ex-Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan and will possess a boatload of cap space next winter.
FO botch job from the beginning . its all their fault now 100%
 
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