Worst Draft in the League?

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

Dion Sanders was 6'1" and could lock down anyone and was able to play both sides of the ball like a freak.

I have no issue with a 6-1 Sammy. This guy is going to be great. My only hope is EJ can get him the ball when it's supposed to be there.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Deion Sanders played mostly cornerback and special teams. He was never a #1 wide receiver.

I have no issue with Sammy Watkins as an NFL prospect, other than his drug arrest in 2012. My issue is purely on his trade value and how the team is expecting him to be a franchise WR and their #1 target.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

You guys really need to watch your teams

WR Sammy Watkins, who may well be regarded as the top player in this draft a few years down the road, is exactly what Buffalo needed. Their passing game scared no one last year.

New RT Cyrus Kouandjio is a first-round talent.

G Cyril Richardson is solid.

Both will keep Manuel safer in the pocket.

I'm not sure what you wanted Buffalo to recruit. After taking manuel in the first round last year, another QB wasn't in the cards. Their D is what kept them in the game.

The Buffalo backfield is damn good, their D is damn good, they needed to improve the O Line and get a great receiver.

No fan wants to hear their team had the worst draft in the league...I said BUF as well for these reasons.

Watkins...yes, he was the most NFL ready player, but he's not a blazer, size is about average...that once every 10 yr prospect was not in this draft, not at WR anyway.

DIV...today, idk how much better NE got, but NY & MIA improved. BUF is on the right track as well, but losing their best player on OFC was a step in the wrong direction...imo they're still the 4th best team in the AFCE...just way too much to give up for a team with a developing QB...I agree with the picks, just paid way too much for the 1st one.

Finally...with a draft that was supposedly very deep @ WR...I really expected them to take Mack to pair with Mario, and that fire plug NT to bolster that DEF.

No axe to grind against the Bills, but those are my thoughts...we shall see how it works out.

 

[jonvi]

Correct me if I am wrong, but Deion Sanders played mostly cornerback and special teams. He was never a #1 wide receiver.

I have no issue with Sammy Watkins as an NFL prospect, other than his drug arrest in 2012. My issue is purely on his trade value and how the team is expecting him to be a franchise WR and their #1 target.

Yes...almost entirely he was a CB. For a season or two, Dion played both sides of the ball for Dallas and lined up as a WR for select plays.

And almost every year he was used as Dallas's kick and punt return specialist and Watkins did some KR's for Clemson. I guess he isn't the best example but athletically, SW reminds me a lot of Dion.

He seems to have "it" to me. The Bills took the gamblers bet. Those have the potential for great payoffs...and yep...major bust too. I'm hoping for the payoff.

 

[cdumler7]

I would have to say the Colts when I factor in the fact that they gave up a 1st round pick for Trent Richardson. So with him being the 1st round pick and just failing miserably they are the only team we know at this point their 1st round pick has actually busted. Yes he can turn it around but I just don't see anything in his game that suggests that he will.


2nd round pick of Jack Mewhort was one that was just average to me. He has versatility, which I like in an OL player, but he just has a lot of weaknesses to his game.


3rd round is where they got their best value in getting a guy like Moncrief.


The other 2 picks are decent role players. I guess to me with the AFC being a 2-horse race in Denver and New England at this point I thought Indy had that outside chance to really bump themselves up into that conversation with a decent draft and other than Moncrief I just don't see any of these guys contributing a whole lot this year and maybe only 1-2 of them in the future.

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

Yes...almost entirely he was a CB. For a season or two, Dion played both sides of the ball for Dallas and lined up as a WR for select plays.

And almost every year he was used as Dallas's kick and punt return specialist and Watkins did some KR's for Clemson. I guess he isn't the best example but athletically, SW reminds me a lot of Dion.

He seems to have "it" to me. The Bills took the gamblers bet. Those have the potential for great payoffs...and yep...major bust too. I'm hoping for the payoff.

You still haven't given me a single example of a great, HOF WR under 6'2. Pretty much all of the great ones were at least 6'2. Watkins could be an exception.

The Bills have an unproven WR core. No replacement for Byrd up to this point. EJ Manuel didn't have a Blaine Gabbert/Jimmy Clausen/Ryan Leaf like rookie season, but it was nothing to write home about. He was a checkdown artist (See YPA) and got injured three times. I am not really confident that we're better than the Jets or the Patriots at this point.

Did we add players to our roster? Yes, but guess what? So did the other 31 teams in the league.

 

[jonvi]

Looks like the kid has to lower that 6-2 number to 6-1 won't he.

Though I am as concerned about Manual, you keep going back to EJ like that impacts this years draft evaluation. EJ is EJ and we are stuck with him. Was there a QB you wanted in this years draft?

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

No fan wants to hear their team had the worst draft in the league...I said BUF as well for these reasons.

Watkins...yes, he was the most NFL ready player, but he's not a blazer, size is about average...that once every 10 yr prospect was not in this draft, not at WR anyway.

DIV...today, idk how much better NE got, but NY & MIA improved. BUF is on the right track as well, but losing their best player on OFC was a step in the wrong direction...imo they're still the 4th best team in the AFCE...just way too much to give up for a team with a developing QB...I agree with the picks, just paid way too much for the 1st one.

Finally...with a draft that was supposedly very deep @ WR...I really expected them to take Mack to pair with Mario, and that fire plug NT to bolster that DEF.

No axe to grind against the Bills, but those are my thoughts...we shall see how it works out.

I agree with you about 98% here. I am not sure, it's the worst draft. I do believe my Bills found some great talent in this year's draft, but I am not sure if Watkins is worth two blue chip players put together. About 4 years ago, we had T.O and Lee Evans, and we still had one of the worst offenses in the league.

 

[jonvi]

HOF....? I'll have to look. Do you believe Wess Welker will be inducted into the HOF? 5'9" is a stubby little shit just tearing up the league for TB and Peyton.

 

[jonvi]

SW's Endzone Shit.

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

Looks like the kid has to lower that 6-2 number to 6-1 won't he.

Though I am as concerned about Manual, you keep going back to EJ like that impacts this years draft evaluation. EJ is EJ and we are stuck with him. Was there a QB you wanted in this years draft?

I am not calling for a QB switch for 2014. That was never my argument.

I have yet to hear a single argument for why we're better than the Jets or Patriots. Both teams have put up better records than us for at least the last 6 seasons.

 

[BobGnarly]

You still haven't given me a single example of a great, HOF WR under 6'2. Pretty much all of the great ones were at least 6'2. Watkins could be an exception.

The Bills have an unproven WR core. No replacement for Byrd up to this point. EJ Manuel didn't have a Blaine Gabbert/Jimmy Clausen/Ryan Leaf like rookie season, but it was nothing to write home about. He was a checkdown artist (See YPA) and got injured three times. I am not really confident that we're better than the Jets or the Patriots at this point.

Did we add players to our roster? Yes, but guess what? So did the other 31 teams in the league.

Lance Alworth
Lynn Swann
Fred Biletnikoff
Steve Largent was 5'11

 

[cdumler7]

Marvin Harrison was only 6' tall

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I agree with you about 98% here. I am not sure, it's the worst draft. I do believe my Bills found some great talent in this year's draft, but I am not sure if Watkins is worth two blue chip players put together. About 4 years ago, we had T.O and Lee Evans, and we still had one of the worst offenses in the league.

Not the worst in terms of the players picked...I think the players drafted are fine.

IMO, the problem obviously was the price to get Watkins who I think will be a good player, but he's not a stud...just was the best WR in this draft.

Now the 2015 draft had been compromised and with 2nd yr developing QB, I'm not thinking he makes BUF a playoff caliber team. If he was the last piece you needed to be a serious threat to win the DIV, or go deep into the playoffs...do it. As it stands they may have given up a top 10 pick...not certain, but potentially.

 

[HizzleRocker]

Since you put the word why in there...

Well, while I don't exactly agree with everything the Chiefs have done, they do seem to have some kind of coherent plan about constructing the roster. So I will attempt to explain their reasoning which will hopefully make some sense.

Look at the cap number for Hali in 2015, the Alex Smith contract situation, Flower's age and decline (weather it is the knee or not is irrelevant right now) and McCluster leaving in Free agency, and this draft starts to makes a lot more sense from the BPA perspective-- but need is vaguely mixed in too. For example, Ford replacing in 2015 is cap friendly and allows KC, in theory, to resign Houston. More importantly, this allows them to move on from Hali.

Ford is going to see the field in sub packages (some of which will almost certainly include all 3 OLB's) so he is definitely going to see playing time, and Hali and Houston simply can't be there every snap, it isn't realistic. See the 2nd half of last year (Or the first meeting with KC and SD post injuries) and see what our OLB depth was like last year. As for Ford being a reach, the reasoning is simple to explain that, KC supposedly had him rated as the top passrusher available at that spot, Philly traded down, and the calculus was (and evidence supports the idea of Philly picks Ford just a few picks behind KC if KC did not) that if they had the guy they wanted, and if trading back doesn't allow you to get your guy, then why trade down? Once they got their guy, not so surprisingly in this calculus, Marcus Smith is drafted not long afterwards.

Similar deal to Gaines except there is some talk he could play FS (although I doubt it, personally). More likely though he serves as a replacement for another big cap number, Flowers (who probably hasn't performed up to his pay-grade at least in the last year) in maybe 2015 or beyond. Again, this is a cap friendly pick that allows the Chiefs to transition to a much younger roster. In the meantime for 2014 though, it provides a lot of depth, or if Marcus Cooper sucks, he could maybe take 3rd on the depth chart.

The end game in all of this seems to be the maneuver themselves for a possible resigning of Justin Houston and/or possibly extending Alex Smith to a "Franchise Money" contract.

De'Anthony Thomas fills two slots immediately: The void of McCluster-- who is not running the ball very often, if at all, but will be a speedy receiver that can be a nuisance to cover, and punt returner which we had none of prior. In fact, if you had checked some sites listing depth charts for punt returner just a week or so ago, you would have gotten nothing. If this was a true RB pick, I would indeed be furious as Jamaal Charles and the interesting Knile Davis more recently are already producing. The only question is if he is slotted 3rd in the RB depth chart or 4th with De'Anthony Thomas. If anything, it is a faster version of McCluster.

The general theme being in the first several picks that they are either picking up what is BPA, and to a lesser extent, needs for next year-- never said they had to be one or the other, did I? Already saw this movie play out with Brandon Albert and Eric Fisher; guess who our starting LT is now? Not the guy who left in FA.

I think you explained it all pretty well here. But that was just my point: Each draft pick was just for depth/backup positions; or for saving money a couple years down the road. They didn't do anything to make themselves better for the upcoming season, imo.

 

[melmaan]

I've been talking up Dominique Easley all season and saying he's going to not only be a terror if he goes to a 4-3 team, but he's also going to be a leader and an excellent influence on the team with one of the best football attitudes / personalities you'll ever find. I think he's a significantly better prospect than Aaron Donald. The only reason he might be a bad pick is the ACL, but players come back from ACL tears all the time these days.

Put Easley next to Wilfork when they're both healthy and that's going to be a pain in the ass for offenses. How do you not love a guy who does this?

As far as the rest of their draft goes, I don't know. They seemed to be drafting largely for need, and a team ready to compete for a SB can get away with doing that.

Read a quote from Easley's college coach stating that Dominique has a bit of the Dog that Lawrence Taylor had in him..... "he tries to hurt people !"

The league has become to politically correct. A kinder, gentler NFL

Bring back some Rabid Dogs!

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

Not the worst in terms of the players picked...I think the players drafted are fine.

IMO, the problem obviously was the price to get Watkins who I think will be a good player, but he's not a stud...just was the best WR in this draft.

Now the 2015 draft had been compromised and with 2nd yr developing QB, I'm not thinking he makes BUF a playoff caliber team. If he was the last piece you needed to be a serious threat to win the DIV, or go deep into the playoffs...do it. As it stands they may have given up a top 10 pick...not certain, but potentially.

100% correct. This is exactly what bothers me about the pick, and something my fellow Bills fans don't seem to understand.

 

[cdumler7]

I think you explained it all pretty well here. But that was just my point: Each draft pick was just for depth/backup positions; or for saving money a couple years down the road. They didn't do anything to make themselves better for the upcoming season, imo.

Yeah have to agree here that the chiefs draft was a bit underwhelming. They had players of good value at positions of need now and in the future that they could have drafted. After the draft I still had the same questions about the chiefs that I had before the draft. Usually you like at least a few of those questions answered.

 

[HizzleRocker]

Yeah have to agree here that the chiefs draft was a bit underwhelming. They had players of good value at positions of need now and in the future that they could have drafted. After the draft I still had the same questions about the chiefs that I had before the draft. Usually you like at least a few of those questions answered.

With the Broncos off-season, and the Raiders schedule, and this draft from the Chiefs - No doubt who the favs in AFC West are gonna be.

If any team can challenge the Broncos, it will be my Chargers - but that is a tall order, imo. We at least added a CB and a Pass Rusher who will both make impacts immediately. I also think we added a sleeper NT in the 5th who has a real chance to win the starting job as a rookie. Those were our 3 positions of need and we addressed all of them.

Chargers will be better;
Raiders will be better, with the toughest schedule in the NFL;
Chiefs will be worse;
Broncos will be near unbeatable (conference wise anyways).