Who's better - Current Kobe or Wizard's Jordan?

[Crotchrocker]

Every time I back it up, you ignore it. Go to basketballreference.com and look up the head to head Lebron vs. Kobe. I feel bad for you young kids. You didn't get to witness Michael Jordan play. Word.

 

[LAKERSUSCBAM]

Lakers fans can hype up Kobe as much as they want to. Thing is, nobody outside LA agrees Kobe should be mentioned in the same breath as MJ. Fact. Word.

you said "Fact" about Kobe/MJ....give us your facts and don't sidestep the comment YOU made. Bring it. Word.

 

[BOTSLAYER]

Wade>>Kobe

Maybe not in GOAT list but if i am building a team I take Wade.

 

[LAKERSUSCBAM]

Wade>>Kobe

Maybe not in GOAT list but if i am building a team I take Wade.

yup you would - the same due that has 3 BBall teams as his faves....credible?? ha

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

D-Wade is a likely Hall of Famer unless he completely craters the next few seasons.

And his career numbers are fairly competitive with Kobe Bryant

WADE
24.6 ppg on 49% shooting
4.8 assists
5.3 rebounds
career PER=25.4
career Defensive rating=103

KOBE
25.0ppg on 45% shooting
6.1 assists
5.1 rebound
career PER=22.4
career Defensive rating=106

I think Kobe is the better player for intangible/immeasurable stuff that gives you a feeling he is better.
But the career numbers are a lot closer than any Laker fan wants to admit.


Plus Wade carried Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, and Brian Grant to the playoffs without resorting to calling it Smush Parker syndrome.

Kobe's first couple of years bring his numbers down a lot. I want to see the numbers compared when Kobe was a full time starter.

 

[LALakersboy24.7]

Kobe's first couple of years bring his numbers down a lot. I want to see the numbers compared when Kobe was a full time starter.

2000-01 Championship season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 28.5 PPG / 5.9 RB / 5 APG *
Shaq 28.7 PPG / 12.7 RB / 3.7 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 29.4 PPG / 7.3 RB / 6.1 APG *
Shaq 30.4 PPG / 15.4 RB / 3.2 APG *
*
2001-02 Championship season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 25.2 PPG / 5.5 RB / 5.5 APG *
Shaq 27.2 PPG / 10.7 RB / 3 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 26.6 PPG / 5.8 RB / 4.6 APG *
Shaq 28.5 PPG / 12.6 RB / 2.8 APG *
*
2002-03 season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 30 PPG / 6.9 RB / 5.9 APG *
Shaq 27.5 PPG / 11.1 RB / 3.1 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 32.1 PPG / 5.1 RB / 5.2 APG *
Shaq 27 PPG / 14.8 RB / 3.7 APG *
*
2003-04 season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 24 PPG / 5.5 RB / 5.1 APG *
Shaq 21.5 PPG / 11.5 RB / 2.9 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 24.5 PPG / 4.7 RB / 5.5 APG *
Shaq 21.5 PPG / 13.2 RB / 2.5 AP

2000 Western Conference Finals Game 7 *
Kobe- 25pts, 11rbs, 7asts, 4blks *
Shaq- 18pts, 9rbs, 5asts, 1blk *
*
2001 Western Conference Semifinals *
Kobe- 35ppg, 9rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 32ppg, 17rpg, 3apg *
*
2001 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 33ppg, 7rpg, 7apg *
Shaq- 27ppg, 13rg, 2apg *
*
2002 Western Conference 1rst round *
Kobe- 27ppg, 6rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 25ppg, 11rpg, 3apg *
*
2002 Western Conference Semifinals *
Kobe- 27ppg, 5rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 21ppg, 12rpg, 2apg *
*
2009 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 34ppg, 6rpg, 5apg *
Gasol- 17ppg, 12rpg, 3apg *
*
2009 Nba Finals *
Kobe- 32ppg, 6rpg, 7apg *
Gasol- 18ppg, 9rpg, 2apg *
*
2010 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 33ppg, 7rpg, 8apg *
Gasol- 19ppg, 7rpg, 3apg *
*
2010 NBA Finals *
Kobe- 29ppg, 8rpg, 4apg *
Gasol- 18ppg, 11rpg, 3apg *

 

[Jims_Doors]

Kobe's first couple of years he wasn't good enough to start. I want to see the numbers compared when Kobe was a full time starter.

fixed...

 

[LAKERSUSCBAM]

LakersBoy - solid recap and I'd take those stats against anyone named MJ/Wade/LeClown especially the playoff #'s.

Now wait for similar stats from the LeClown/MJ/Wade fanclubs

 

[Jims_Doors]

2000-01 Championship season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 28.5 PPG / 5.9 RB / 5 APG *
Shaq 28.7 PPG / 12.7 RB / 3.7 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 29.4 PPG / 7.3 RB / 6.1 APG *
Shaq 30.4 PPG / 15.4 RB / 3.2 APG *
*
2001-02 Championship season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 25.2 PPG / 5.5 RB / 5.5 APG *
Shaq 27.2 PPG / 10.7 RB / 3 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 26.6 PPG / 5.8 RB / 4.6 APG *
Shaq 28.5 PPG / 12.6 RB / 2.8 APG *
*
2002-03 season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 30 PPG / 6.9 RB / 5.9 APG *
Shaq 27.5 PPG / 11.1 RB / 3.1 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 32.1 PPG / 5.1 RB / 5.2 APG *
Shaq 27 PPG / 14.8 RB / 3.7 APG *
*
2003-04 season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 24 PPG / 5.5 RB / 5.1 APG *
Shaq 21.5 PPG / 11.5 RB / 2.9 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 24.5 PPG / 4.7 RB / 5.5 APG *
Shaq 21.5 PPG / 13.2 RB / 2.5 AP

2000 Western Conference Finals Game 7 *
Kobe- 25pts, 11rbs, 7asts, 4blks *
Shaq- 18pts, 9rbs, 5asts, 1blk *
*
2001 Western Conference Semifinals *
Kobe- 35ppg, 9rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 32ppg, 17rpg, 3apg *
*
2001 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 33ppg, 7rpg, 7apg *
Shaq- 27ppg, 13rg, 2apg *
*
2002 Western Conference 1rst round *
Kobe- 27ppg, 6rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 25ppg, 11rpg, 3apg *
*
2002 Western Conference Semifinals *
Kobe- 27ppg, 5rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 21ppg, 12rpg, 2apg *
*
2009 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 34ppg, 6rpg, 5apg *
Gasol- 17ppg, 12rpg, 3apg *
*
2009 Nba Finals *
Kobe- 32ppg, 6rpg, 7apg *
Gasol- 18ppg, 9rpg, 2apg *
*
2010 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 33ppg, 7rpg, 8apg *
Gasol- 19ppg, 7rpg, 3apg *
*
2010 NBA Finals *
Kobe- 29ppg, 8rpg, 4apg *
Gasol- 18ppg, 11rpg, 3apg *

Kobe's played in 7 Finals but you only show a few select ones to showcase him.

Not surprised considering he only played well in 2 of the 7

 

[LAKERSUSCBAM]

Kobe's played in 7 Finals but you only show a few select ones to showcase him.

Not surprised considering he only played well in 2 of the 7

awright then LeClown lover, show us his stats along with MJ's/Wade...side to side and we'll see how they stack up and who dominates who, stat-wise.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

fixed...

Duh! If he was good enough he would've been starting asswipe(in sman's voice)

 

[Jims_Doors]

awright then LeClown lover, show us his stats along with MJ's/Wade...side to side and we'll see how they stack up and who dominates who, stat-wise.

So you're telling me to look at box scores, stats? The other day you laughed at those who you said didn't watch the games and only looked the box scores.

 

[BOTSLAYER]

I think it is safe to say MJ on the Wizards was better...

 

[Bartman]

I think it is safe to say MJ on the Wizards was better...