Which Big 10 teams will lose to mid-majors (or less) in 2013?

[Red_Alert]

My definition of "Mid-Major" is "Non-AQ"

Illinois - Southern Illinois (Aug 31), Miami of Ohio (Sept 28)
Indiana - Indiana St (Aug 29), Navy (Sept 7), Bowling Green (Sept 14),
Iowa - Northern Illinois (Aug 31), Missouri St (Sept 7), Western Michigan (Sept 21)
Michigan - Central Michigan (Aug 31), Akron (Sept 14),
Michigan St - Western Michigan (Aug 30), Youngstown St (Sept 14)
Minnesota - UNLV (Aug 29), @ New Mexico St (Sept 7), Western Illinois (Sept 14), San Jose St (Sept 21)
Nebraska - Wyoming (Sept 31), Southern Miss (Sept 7), South Dakota St (Sept 21)
Northwestern - Western Michigan (Sept 14), Maine (Sept 21)
Ohio St - Buffalo (Aug 31), San Diego St (Sept 7), Florida A&M (Sept 21)
Penn St - Eastern Michigan (Sept 7), Kent St (Sept 21)
Purdue - Indiana St (Sept 7), Northern Illinois (Sept 28)
Wisconsin - UMass (Aug 31), Tennessee Tech (Sept 7), BYU (Nov 9)

The following teams play American Athletic Conference (AAC) (Formerly Big East) teams in 2013. The AAC will lose AQ status in 2014.

Illinois - Cincinnati (Sept 7)
Michigan - Connecticut (Sept 21)
Michigan St - South Florida (Sept 7)
Penn St - Central Florida (Sept 14th)
Purdue - Cincinnati (Aug 31)


Last years thread. http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/...0-teams-will-lose-mid-majors-less-2012-a.html

 

[HawkeyeHater]

Illinois to Miami
Iowa to NIU

 

[HawkeyeHater]

And at least 3 more

 

[Red_Alert]

I see these as close games.

Illinois - Miami (OH) (No modern games)
Indiana - Indiana St (Indiana W 24-17 in 2012), Navy (Navy W 31-30 in 2012), Bowling Green (Never played)
Iowa - Northern Illinois (Iowa won 18-17 in 2012), Western Michigan (Iowa is 0-2 vs W. Michigan in 2000 & 2007)
Minnesota - UNLV (Minnesota W 30-27 in 2012), New Mexico St (NMSU won 28-21 in 2011), San Jose St
Ohio St - San Diego St
Penn St - Kent St
Purdue - Northern Illinois (N. Illinois W 28-21 in 2009)
Wisconsin - BYU

 

[Red_Alert]

BYU vs Gary Anderson (Utah St)

2009 - BYU 35-17
2010 - Utah St 31-16
2011 - BYU 27-24
2012 - Utah St 6-3

2012 Utah St @ Wisconsin (Wisconsin 16-14)

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

My definition of "Mid-Major" is "Non-AQ"

Illinois - Southern Illinois (Aug 31), Miami of Ohio (Sept 28)
Indiana - Indiana St (Aug 29), Navy (Sept 7), Bowling Green (Sept 14),
Iowa - Northern Illinois (Aug 31), Missouri St (Sept 7), Western Michigan (Sept 21)
Michigan - Central Michigan (Aug 31), Akron (Sept 14),
Michigan St - Western Michigan (Aug 30), Youngstown St (Sept 14)
Minnesota - UNLV (Aug 29), @ New Mexico St (Sept 7), Western Illinois (Sept 14), San Jose St (Sept 21)
Nebraska - Wyoming (Sept 31), Southern Miss (Sept 7), South Dakota St (Sept 21)
Northwestern - Western Michigan (Sept 14), Maine (Sept 21)
Ohio St - Buffalo (Aug 31), San Diego St (Sept 7), Florida A&M (Sept 21)
Penn St - Eastern Michigan (Sept 7), Kent St (Sept 21)
Purdue - Indiana St (Sept 7), Northern Illinois (Sept 28)
Wisconsin - UMass (Aug 31), Tennessee Tech (Sept 7), BYU (Nov 9)

The following teams play American Athletic Conference (AAC) (Formerly Big East) teams in 2013. The AAC will lose AQ status in 2014.

Illinois - Cincinnati (Sept 7)
Michigan - Connecticut (Sept 21)
Michigan St - South Florida (Sept 7)
Penn St - Central Florida (Sept 14th)
Purdue - Cincinnati (Aug 31)


Last years thread. http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/...0-teams-will-lose-mid-majors-less-2012-a.html

The possible losses I see are......

Miami OH over Illinois
Bowling Green over Indiana
Northern Ill over Iowa
Northern Ill over Purdue
UNLV over Minnesota
San Diego St over OSU
BYU over Wisconsin


Of those I see 3, maybe 4 actually happening.

 

[Sox33OSU]

Miami (OH) over Illinois and NIU over Iowa and Purdue are the only realistic ones. I think Andersen is gonna do great at Wisconsin and they clearly have more talent than BYU, so I see Wisconsin winning that one. Otherwise, barring an enormous upset, I don't see any of them happening.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I didn't see your post before I submitted mine thar RA......but it looks like we are mostly on the same page.

I simply am not buying into the OSU hype. They were lucky to not have 3 losses last season and now they'll be breaking in a lot of new faces on Defense. If the fragile Braxton Miller were to go down at some point this season imagine what that Offense turns into.

 

[Sox33OSU]

I didn't see your post before I submitted mine thar RA......but it looks like we are mostly on the same page.

I simply am not buying into the OSU hype. They were lucky to not have 3 losses last season and now they'll be breaking in a lot of new faces on Defense. If the fragile Braxton Miller were to go down at some point this season imagine what that Offense turns into.

The only game where there was any luck involved was Purdue. You can't sit there and call a close game a "lucky win". I also don't see how Miller is fragile. In 2 years he's never missed a game due to injury. He's missed time in 2 games, and that's it.

You also don't really know anything about this year's team, so I don't expect you to know what you're talking about. For example, last year's offense was very conservative in terms of Urban's playbook. It was the first year, so they didn't even run over half of the plays Meyer runs with an experienced offense. We return everyone from our offense, and we return our 4 leading tacklers from last year. The only position on the field we may have an issue will be from our LB spot other than Shazier.

 

[Red_Alert]

Miami (OH) over Illinois and NIU over Iowa and Purdue are the only realistic ones. I think Andersen is gonna do great at Wisconsin and they clearly have more talent than BYU, so I see Wisconsin winning that one. Otherwise, barring an enormous upset, I don't see any of them happening.

B-one-G nut-swinger.

Wisconsin is breaking in new coaches and system.

BYU plays well defensively.

2012 Stats

Rushing Defense - #2
Pass Defense - #10
Total Defense - #3
Scoring Defense #3

If this were an early game I'd favor BYU. It's fortunate for Wisconsin that this is a November game. Even so, I give it a coin flip.

 

[Sox33OSU]

B-one-G nut-swinger.

Wisconsin is breaking in new coaches and system.

BYU plays well defensively.

2012 Stats

Rushing Defense - #2
Pass Defense - #10
Total Defense - #3
Scoring Defense #3

If this were an early game I'd favor BYU. It's fortunate for Wisconsin that this is a November game. Even so, I give it a coin flip.

This is part of why I have no doubt Wisconsin will win.

I'm aware BYU plays solid defense. However, in case you didn't realize, so did Utah State. Wisconsin also has some very good players on defense, so it isn't like they're hurting. On the other hand, Wisconsin has an elite offensive line, 2 stud RBs, an all-B1G WR in Abbrederis and a very good TE in Pedersen. BYU has a very pedestrian offense. I'm not saying it's gonna be a blowout, but I see Wisconsin taking this by 14-17 points.

 

[Red_Alert]

We also don't know what to expect out of Penn St in year 2 of sanctions.

That UCF game could be a tough one. Edge to Penn St for being at home, but a turnover or two could be costly.

 

[Red_Alert]

This is part of why I have no doubt Wisconsin will win.

I'm aware BYU plays solid defense. However, in case you didn't realize, so did Utah State. Wisconsin also has some very good players on defense, so it isn't like they're hurting. On the other hand, Wisconsin has an elite offensive line, 2 stud RBs, an all-B1G WR in Abbrederis and a very good TE in Pedersen. BYU has a very pedestrian offense. I'm not saying it's gonna be a blowout, but I see Wisconsin taking this by 14-17 points.

I think the final score could be 14-17.

 

[Sox33OSU]

We also don't know what to expect out of Penn St in year 2 of sanctions.

That UCF game could be a tough one. Edge to Penn St for being at home, but a turnover or two could be costly.

Missed that one, good point.

 

[Sox33OSU]

I think the final score could be 14-17.

I don't think I see BYU scoring 14.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

The only game where there was any luck involved was Purdue. You can't sit there and call a close game a "lucky win". I also don't see how Miller is fragile. In 2 years he's never missed a game due to injury. He's missed time in 2 games, and that's it.

You also don't really know anything about this year's team, so I don't expect you to know what you're talking about. For example, last year's offense was very conservative in terms of Urban's playbook. It was the first year, so they didn't even run over half of the plays Meyer runs with an experienced offense. We return everyone from our offense, and we return our 4 leading tacklers from last year. The only position on the field we may have an issue will be from our LB spot other than Shazier.

 

[Sox33OSU]

So if you don't really wanna talk about football, why are you here?

 

[Shanemansj13]

Purdue- Northern Illinois
Illinois- Miami OH
Penn St- Kent St
Iowa- Northern Illinois

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

So if you don't really wanna talk about football, why are you here?

Okay.......go on thinking that OSU absolutely rolled through their schedule to an undefeated season.

When I said they were lucky to be undefeated I simply meant exactly what Urban himself said......the ball bounced in OSU's favor several times last season......

They crushed Nebraska......that much I will say. But they struggled to knock off plenty of teams.....including Indiana and Purdue

 

[Red_Alert]

So nobody sees San Jose St beating Minnesota?