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We better hit on some picks and udfa

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This is the worst Free agencie peroid ever under snyder it could be a good thing as long as we hit on the draft and udfa u can only be stingy for so long maybe we be'active after june 1 but I just don't see us improving as of today
 

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This is the worst Free agencie peroid ever under snyder it could be a good thing as long as we hit on the draft and udfa u can only be stingy for so long maybe we be'active after june 1 but I just don't see us improving as of today

I am worried that we are going to rely on the draft 100% and I am not sure thats a great idea at all. If we are the Patriots or an elite team with all major areas addressed, yes, you build 100% through the draft. Bottom line is that we cannot find 6 starters only utilizing the draft. We just aren't there right now.

I have been very confused regarding our FA approach this year. I never want to have Vinny back but I don't want to do nothing as well. There has to be a happy medium.

The biggest crapshoot in any offseason is the draft. You don't know who will be available and you have no idea how they will turn out as a player. Given our hug lack of talent on the team currently, relying on the draft and UDFA is not a smart thing to do.

For the record, I am not saying the sky is falling or that the season is over. I am just surprised that we have not added any talent during FA and that is a concern given we have one of the least talented rosters in the NFL.
 

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im not saying go full cerrto im just saying if we dont hit on rookies and udfa we will not improve example cb hayward signed 3 year deal with the bolts at 5 mill ayear wich is cheap if we would of signed him we would have hayward breeland dunbar thats legit but nope we better hit on a cb in the draft or else
 

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im not saying go full cerrto im just saying if we dont hit on rookies and udfa we will not improve example cb hayward signed 3 year deal with the bolts at 5 mill ayear wich is cheap if we would of signed him we would have hayward breeland dunbar thats legit but nope we better hit on a cb in the draft or else


Or else what?? Dude, this season should be about improving the roster for long term success. Now if we happen to win the Division and improve in the playoffs, thats gravy. But right now, we SHOULD be concentrating on improving through the draft... not worrying about looking good in Free Agency.
 

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I am worried that we are going to rely on the draft 100% and I am not sure thats a great idea at all. If we are the Patriots or an elite team with all major areas addressed, yes, you build 100% through the draft. Bottom line is that we cannot find 6 starters only utilizing the draft. We just aren't there right now.

I have been very confused regarding our FA approach this year. I never want to have Vinny back but I don't want to do nothing as well. There has to be a happy medium.

The biggest crapshoot in any offseason is the draft. You don't know who will be available and you have no idea how they will turn out as a player. Given our hug lack of talent on the team currently, relying on the draft and UDFA is not a smart thing to do.

For the record, I am not saying the sky is falling or that the season is over. I am just surprised that we have not added any talent during FA and that is a concern given we have one of the least talented rosters in the NFL.


I've been a lot more impressed with SM's ability with draft picks and UDFA than his stab at free agent signings. So perhaps, this will be a good thing this year.

A huge lack of talent? I certainly think we have a couple holes to fill defensively, but we're not that far away on the other side of the ball at being a top 5 team in points scored.

If we can find a way to shave 2 or 3 points off a game defensively, we might be a contender in 2016 to win a playoff game or two.
 

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The reality is that this year's talent pool in free agency is very weak and many marginal players have been signed for exorbitant prices. We also don't have much cap space. It's not that we didn't want to participate, it'd just that there is very little value this year. Oncecthings settle down, I'm sure we will pick up a couple of additional vets to temporarily plug some holes until we can draft permanent talent. Rebuilding this team is not a one year endeavor.
 

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The reality is that this year's talent pool in free agency is very weak and many marginal players have been signed for exorbitant prices. We also don't have much cap space. It's not that we didn't want to participate, it'd just that there is very little value this year. Oncecthings settle down, I'm sure we will pick up a couple of additional vets to temporarily plug some holes until we can draft permanent talent. Rebuilding this team is not a one year endeavor.

I hope we pick up some good vets. I don't want to sign a bunch of 30 year old plus players to fill holes. You have to hand it to SM. He said we would be quiet in FA and we have been very quiet. I am not sure there are many players worth signing at this point. That being said, we need the following starters out of the draft:

Center
NT
DE
FS
RB

Good luck SM! Hopefully we find another ILB because I am not sold on Compton or Foster being long term answers.
 

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im not saying go full cerrto im just saying if we dont hit on rookies and udfa we will not improve example cb hayward signed 3 year deal with the bolts at 5 mill ayear wich is cheap if we would of signed him we would have hayward breeland dunbar thats legit but nope we better hit on a cb in the draft or else

We are even passing on the cheap free agents now. SM is playing chicken...LOL

I am going to be honest, I am not seeing the vision right now. You can't compete with a bunch of rookies. We will literally need all 7 draft picks to either start or be a rotational player.
 

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I hope we pick up some good vets. I don't want to sign a bunch of 30 year old plus players to fill holes. You have to hand it to SM. He said we would be quiet in FA and we have been very quiet. I am not sure there are many players worth signing at this point. That being said, we need the following starters out of the draft:

Center
NT
DE
FS
RB

Good luck SM! Hopefully we find another ILB because I am not sold on Compton or Foster being long term answers.

The only position we absolutely have to find a starter at is S.

Chris Baker can play the nose. Jewell Powe as a backup.

Most good teams build their team through the draft and then plug holes with post draft free agents.
 

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I've been a lot more impressed with SM's ability with draft picks and UDFA than his stab at free agent signings. So perhaps, this will be a good thing this year.

A huge lack of talent? I certainly think we have a couple holes to fill defensively, but we're not that far away on the other side of the ball at being a top 5 team in points scored.

If we can find a way to shave 2 or 3 points off a game defensively, we might be a contender in 2016 to win a playoff game or two.

Per your first statement - I agree 100%. While it was originally given solid to good marks to start the year. FA was a significant disappointment last year.

Per your second statement - I'm not particularly impressed with any unit on the defensive side of the ball myself. And I'm with J_y. Players, some good, others more unknown at least imo. Were paid crazy ass money. That kid from Miami, a DE I believe, was paid crazy ass money. So was Jackson from Denver and Harrison from NYJ. Far as the other side of the ball. I'm feeling pretty good about the Skins passing offense. Really really good if everyone stays healthy for the entire season. The running game is another matter though, but I see no reason to push the panic button 4 months before the preseason.

Per your third statement - The Skins gave up 379 points/23.6 per game. So yeah, knocking that down to 20 -21 ponts a game could make a noticeable difference.
 

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The first day or two is a mad rush of over paying. After a week or two players will want to play for someone. That day is creeping closer. Scot has said numerous times he will NOT build through FA. Did you watch last year? He filled half a team after the season started.
 

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Bottom line if we don't hit on rookies and udfa at a good rate we are doomed
 

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SM views FAs as one year rentals. This is why he signs so many to 1 year prove it deals. They are used to plug holes until he can fill the position permanently through the draft. This is much better than signing some over the hill star to a long term multi million dollar deal that breaks our cap and weakens our team. We will still pick up a few FAs, just once the hysteria dies down. We absolutely need support on defense, especially on the line. Fortunately, this draft is ripe with DL. S is a concern as the talent in the draft is not deep. I bet we resign Goldston for a short rental once he tests the FA waters. IF you have noticed, most of our FAs have not signed anywhere. Morris, Gallette, Goldston, Knighton, and a few others, are still available. Dont be surprised to see some of them back.
 

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I am worried that we are going to rely on the draft 100% and I am not sure thats a great idea at all. If we are the Patriots or an elite team with all major areas addressed, yes, you build 100% through the draft. Bottom line is that we cannot find 6 starters only utilizing the draft. We just aren't there right now.

I have been very confused regarding our FA approach this year. I never want to have Vinny back but I don't want to do nothing as well. There has to be a happy medium.

The biggest crapshoot in any offseason is the draft. You don't know who will be available and you have no idea how they will turn out as a player. Given our hug lack of talent on the team currently, relying on the draft and UDFA is not a smart thing to do.

For the record, I am not saying the sky is falling or that the season is over. I am just surprised that we have not added any talent during FA and that is a concern given we have one of the least talented rosters in the NFL.

I actually think its the opposite. Id rather build through the draft w/out FA while we arent at the Pats or elite team level and when we reach there THEN we can use FA to finish up our roster and push ourselves over the top.

Also given what we've seen about FA isnt that a huge crapshoot too? I think its pretty clear most good teams are built almost solely through the draft.
 

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The reality is that this year's talent pool in free agency is very weak and many marginal players have been signed for exorbitant prices. We also don't have much cap space. It's not that we didn't want to participate, it'd just that there is very little value this year. Oncecthings settle down, I'm sure we will pick up a couple of additional vets to temporarily plug some holes until we can draft permanent talent. Rebuilding this team is not a one year endeavor.

This. Can anybody point to any of the signings that happened and say we really screwed up by not making the same signing?
 

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NFL.com| Footballogy

This is from a few years ago, but the concept still applies. There are some noteable exceptions, but as a general rule successful teams build predominately via the draft. Perhaps you can state that the Redskins could have been a bit more active. However - overpaying via free agency can have much worse long term effects on the team than not doing enough. One of the best teams to emulate in this fashion is the Packers who rarely sign free agents.
 

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The beauty of the one year deals is if you screw up, you are out free as a bird. If they play well you can attempt to resign. But when you sign an Arculeta or Haynesworth you are on the hook for a lot of money.
 

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I actually think its the opposite. Id rather build through the draft w/out FA while we arent at the Pats or elite team level and when we reach there THEN we can use FA to finish up our roster and push ourselves over the top.

Also given what we've seen about FA isnt that a huge crapshoot too? I think its pretty clear most good teams are built almost solely through the draft.

I don't think enough people understand this simple ideal. You build a team with young players and then when a key signing or two can put you over the hump...you do it.

The reason free agency is a crapshoot...not all systems are the same. There is a reason players have to develop beyond just their own talents. They have to develop in the system. When free agents change teams, they typically change systems, and are not as good in the new system.
 
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