Monday Night Football: WC MNF: Vikings vs Rams in Glendale, AZ 8pm EST on ESPN

[Battlelyon]

Rams spent 39.5 million on defense this year, lowest in.the NFL. Second lowest was the Panthers at 66.7 million.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

Rams spent 39.5 million on defense this year, lowest in.the NFL. Second lowest was the Panthers at 66.7 million.

That is very impressive. Verse being an absolute monster on a rookie deal helps. I wish the Vikings would have taken him instead of Dallas Turner after last night. I'm not giving up on Turner, but he's got to have some serious growth.

 

[Xeliou66]

That is very impressive. Verse being an absolute monster on a rookie deal helps. I wish the Vikings would have taken him instead of Dallas Turner after last night. I'm not giving up on Turner, but he's got to have some serious growth.

Turner was kind of a disappointment in his rookie year, he could still be good though. Verse was the only rookie edge rusher to make a big impact this season, it will be interesting how the draft class turns out.

 

[Battlelyon]

Turner was kind of a disappointment in his rookie year, he could still be good though. Verse was the only rookie edge rusher to make a big impact this season, it will be interesting how the draft class turns out.

I don't think he has been disappointment, his performance was pretty on par with his rookie. He led the most sacks yesterday. I think his play was just overshadowed by the play of Verse and Fiske. The young guys are going to grow and gain more experience together which is scary for opponents.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I dont understand comp picks.
Why would the vikes get a comp pick for a FA they signed for one year?

 

[Battlelyon]

The Rams have just done a masterful job the last few years drafting.



It doesn't even include Evans, Spreights, and Karty

 

[Xeliou66]

I don't think he has been disappointment, his performance was pretty on par with his rookie. He led the most sacks yesterday. I think his play was just overshadowed by the play of Verse and Fiske. The young guys are going to grow and gain more experience together which is scary for opponents.

Fair enough, I guess I just expected a bit more production than 3 sacks on the season for a 1st round draft choice edge rusher, but I guess my expectations can be too high, plus the Vikings have good edge rushers in Van Ginkel and Greenard so I guess he didn’t get as much playing time given how good they were.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

The Rams have just done a masterful job the last few years drafting.

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It doesn't even include Evans, Spreights, and Karty

"F them picks" indeed. I don't think too many other GMs could get away with that brash of a statement and be vindicated.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

Fair enough, I guess I just expected a bit more production than 3 sacks on the season for a 1st round draft choice edge rusher, but I guess my expectations can be too high, plus the Vikings have good edge rushers in Van Ginkel and Greenard so I guess he didn’t get as much playing time given how good they were.

Turner barely got on the field the first half of the season. He is a raw prospect and frankly the veteran linebackers were playing so well that he really wasn't needed.

 

[Xeliou66]

Turner barely got on the field the first half of the season. He is a raw prospect and frankly the veteran linebackers were playing so well that he really wasn't needed.

Yeah the Vikings have a good pass rush, both Van Ginkel and Greenard had double digit sacks this season. If Turner elevates his play next year that will boost the Vikings edge rush even more.

 

[Moab]

Could end up being the Steelers... the beefed up their OL this last draft and Wilson/Fields isn't gonna be it. Raiders could be another destination. Titans/Giants probably going with the draft. Course it's a weak QB class, who knows.

I doubt anyone is giving up anything significant (picks or contracts) for Darnold at this point though. Also, his season was almost exactly identical to Geno Smith from 2022... Only difference is Geno had a shit defense in 2022, Darnold didn't. Once Smith's run game went away, he's been a low 90s QB.

2022 Geno Smith vs. 2024 Sam Darnold:
Yards: +37 Darnold
TDs: +5 Darnold
INT: +1 Darnold
Attempts: -27 Darnold
Comp %: +3.6% Smith
Sacks Taken: +2 Darnold
Rating: +1.6 Darnold

I mean it's eerily similar. Geno signed a 3 year $75M deal with escalators or $25M per. FT for QB is currently worth $40M per... So could Darnold sign a 3 year $90M deal with escalators (has an advantage because of age)? Sure... Is that worth a 1st rounder? Probably a 2nd and that's because this class sucks ass.

I was thinking Raiders, Browns and maybe the Saints or Giants....but who knows what those teams think

 

[Battlelyon]

The time is near, it is your destiny Aaron

 

[fastforward]

I dont understand comp picks.
Why would the vikes get a comp pick for a FA they signed for one year?

This is about compensation for losing to another team a player whose contract has expired. It doesn't matter whether it's a 1-year or a 5-year contract. Technically a player traded at the deadline in his final season under contract still qualifies for compensation, (EG: LB Earnest Jones - Seahawks), and rightly so. The issue here is that the Vikings have signed Jones after the completion of the 2024 regular season. If the system rewards the Vikings with a compensatory pick for this then the system stinks. The system is also potentially going to reward the Steelers for losing Wilson, (who was on an artificially low wage due NFL contract stipulations). Obviously teams signing such contracts shouldn't be rewarded with Draft capital when the player moves on.

Then again, in real terms it's only worth 80 points in 2025 Draft chart value.

 

[Iggloo]

"F them picks" indeed. I don't think too many other GMs could get away with that brash of a statement and be vindicated.

The mind concentrates when forced to do things due to hardship. The Rams basically had to nail the picks because of their salary cap situation. So they did a good job of drafting and also teaching these young guys so that they would be ready to step in.

Philly's been doing something similar on defense, but it's not as dramatic as the Rams' turnaround. Philly still has high-priced vets on D like Darius Slay and Chauncey Gardner-Johnson.