USA Today way-too-early college football Top 25 for 2020

[kburjr]

Losing twice to Michigan in the same season would be tough for Wisconsin. Michigan owes it to them though after they smacked them around this year.

That was just a warm up game.

 

[gob]

When? Give me proof. I've only seen one ranked #9, all the others were in the teens.

Do I need to link the 247 rankings to this board? I mean, we're on a CFB message board. This is like 1+1=2 shit

 

[Red_Alert]

No, but they've had at least 4 top 10 classes

No.

They had a #10 in 2019, and a #7 in 2018.

All of Dabo's other classes have been outside of the Top 10.

His 2017 class was 16th.

This shit is not difficult to look up before spouting off like an uninformed idiot.

2017 Football Team Rankings
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[fredsdeadfriend]

Can you read?

Per 247, they've only fallen out of the top 10 twice since 2015

Well, I could believe that. Most of the rankings I saw were from 2005-2014 abouts. Proceeding their 1st Natl Title.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Do I need to link the 247 rankings to this board? I mean, we're on a CFB message board. This is like 1+1=2 shit

Yes, I'm far too lazy to look shit up when I can just gode you into doing it for me, lol.

 

[gob]

No.

They had a #10 in 2019, and a #7 in 2018.

All of Dabo's other classes have been outside of the Top 10.

His 2017 class was 16th.

This shit is not difficult to look up before spouting off like an uninformed idiot.

2017 Football Team Rankings
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And 2015 was #9.





What the fuck

 

[gob]

Apparently I get a special 247 recruiting report. I wish they'd at least make OSU #1 every year for me

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Apparently I get a special 247 recruiting report. I wish they'd at least make OSU #1 every year for me

Do you pay for it? I just let those who pay for sh1t, tell me what they learned after THEY paid for it, lol.

 

[gob]

Do you pay for it? I just let those who pay for sh1t, tell me what they learned after THEY paid for it, lol.

No....

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

No....

Well, how are you all liking your new coach?

 

[gob]

Well, how are you all liking your new coach?

Just fine

 

[Red_Alert]

But they also has been averaging high stars even when not a "top" class. Checking average stars per rivals.com , 2016 (6th), 2017 (4th), 2018 (3rd).

Their budget must have been larger for the 2020 class.

I'm just using overall 'team rankings' per 247.

I've averaged them year by year in 4 year periods. 2020 will be the first ever Top 10 team per the 4 year average. But that is barely and only because the 2020 class is ranked #1.

The 4 year average is #8.5

2020: #1
2019: #10
2018: #7
2017: #16

That #8.5 will be Dabo's first ever 4 year average recruiting class in the Top 10.
As I stated, that is only because this years #1 class brings the average up from #11.

10+7+16 = 33

33/3 = 11.
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[Red_Alert]

Can you read?

Per 247, they've only fallen out of the top 10 twice since 2015

I read just fine, dumb-ass.

You're trying to argue something I wasn't.

2020 will be the first Clemson team with a 4 year average recruiting class in the Top 10. It average #8.

Many seem to think Clemson has been accomplishing this shit with top ranked classes. They have not.

The 2020 class being #1 is the first Dabo class even in the Top 6.
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[gob]

I read just fine, dumb-ass.

You're trying to argue something I wasn't.

2020 will be the first Clemson team with a 4 year average recruiting class in the Top 10. It average #8.

Many seem to think Clemson has been accomplishing this shit with top ranked classes. They have not.

The 2020 class being #1 is the first Dabo class even in the Top 6.
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Why were you arguing that he hasn't had at least 4 top 10 classes then?


Even though 2016 and 17 were outside the top 10, they had top 5 averages. They just didn't need to sign a bunch of kids. They've been working with top talent for a while now.

 

[Across The Field]

They had some decent recruiting classes the past few years, the fact they've lost one game the past two seasons (a national title game at that), and they are returning the best player (a QB) in the country next year, I can't think of an easier preseason #1 team.

Maybe they will be proven a fraud next season, but they've got some FREAKY talented guys on that team. I'd be more shocked if they literally didn't run away with the season next year. Losing that game may end up lighting a hard fire under their rear ends.

Oh they've had some great recruiting classes, no question, but as I said - they're losing almost every key playmaker on the team. I also would argue Lawrence being the best player in the country. Fields thoroughly outplayed him this season despite playing a significantly harder schedule. I'd put both OSU and Alabama ahead of them going into the season.

It may light a fire under them, who knows? This is also going to be the first time in a while that they've played a legitimate team OOC, and on the road at that.

 

[Across The Field]

It would have been no different than Oregon this year had they not lost to Arizona State.

Looking through the committees' lenses I think losing to a 2/3 loss Wisconsin, and beating a 1 loss Clemson(which is towards the end of the year), is better than beating a 3/4 loss Wisconsin and losing to an undefeated Clemson. At that point there are two teams eliminated (Wisconsin and Clemson) as opposed to just 1(Wisconsin).

Eh, fair point. The Clemson game being late in the season definitely helps, while Wisconsin is early.

 

[belcherboy]

Oh they've had some great recruiting classes, no question, but as I said - they're losing almost every key playmaker on the team. I also would argue Lawrence being the best player in the country. Fields thoroughly outplayed him this season despite playing a significantly harder schedule. I'd put both OSU and Alabama ahead of them going into the season.

It may light a fire under them, who knows? This is also going to be the first time in a while that they've played a legitimate team OOC, and on the road at that.

I don’t know the stats, but I’m interested in the “thoroughly outplayed him” comment. I’m curious why you feel this way? Perhaps the stats back that up.

 

[Red_Alert]

Clemson's National Championship 4 year average recruiting rankings.....

2016: #12.75
(2016, 2015, 2014, 2013)

2018: #10.75
(2018, 2017, 2016, 2015)

 

[tducey]

Yeah, I think Minnesota should be ranked on this list. LSU at 4? Who else are they losing besides Burrow?

 

[Across The Field]

I don’t know the stats, but I’m interested in the “thoroughly outplayed him” comment. I’m curious why you feel this way? Perhaps the stats back that up.

Fields had a higher completion %, higher YPA, a higher QB rating, more total TDs, fewer total turnovers, and did it while playing a way harder schedule.